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It doesn't matter if the 660 Ti is as bad as it is. The price on that system is higher than its gaming performance is worth.

Furthermore, the GTX 660 and the GTX 660 Ti have exactly identical memory bandwidth. The only performance difference is in the GPU frequency and core count, both of which are easily proven to be as luci said, not nearly as much of a difference as they look like.

The GTX 660 Ti is as bad and as good as it is made out to be. luciferano clearly stated that it's not a bad card several times in this thread, but also that it's not worth the price premium over the 660. luciferano's advice was in OP's best interest and whether or not you accept that is your choice to make. Even if you took one of luci's builds and switched out its graphics for a 660 Ti, it would still be a better deal than that combo deal that OP found.

Furthermore, current benchmarks show that the memory bus of the 660 and the 660 Ti can in act limit their performance at pretty much all resolutions and can do so quite noticeably. In fact, lower resolutions with configurations that use MSAA to make up for the lower graphics load are usually more memory-bandwidth intensive than a higher resolution with less MSAA.
 
do you own ANY of said cards???

funny...ive found my 660ti to be a better playing exp. than my tri-fire 6970......

and really beyond the nitpicking about *** that really dont make a differance...the main point i was trying to make is that normal ppl that come for advice get PUT OFF BIGTIME, by this incessive arguing (that i am just as guilty of) again....

notice that the op aint been back......

he didnt seem the type to hit pc parts list or new egg, hitting the reviews like we do......

he just wanted to know if the board was ok.....

thats it....
 


I do own a 7850 and I've worked with many of the cards that were mentioned here with builds that I've made for other people.

Crossfire, although I wouldn't expect it to be bad with such a setup as that, has micro-stutter and unless you're using current drivers in your comparison, the 6970 TriFire setup might have had some inferior drivers to today. Furthermore, how good the 660 Ti is to you doesn't matter for this context. None of us called it a bad card, yet you keep acting as if we did.

I nor luciferano nitpicked about anything that didn't matter. The point was that that combo deal was not ideal.

OP was looking at a combo deal on Newegg. It wouldn't have been any different in practice from pcparts and such except you might have to make a few separate orders instead of a single order. OP doesn't need to hit any reviews, luciferano did that work for OP.

You'd already answered about the system and board, so I don't see any reason to continue on that subject and based on this thread, I think that it's safe to assume that luciferano would agree.
 
some points were made.....

but if anyone can tell me that a 660ti @ $225 after mir is a bad deal......well they're on drugs

and honestly it has nothing to do with red v green for me....if the combo had a 7950@ a similar discount......id recomend it just as hard!
 


Neither I nor luciferano said that it had to be an AMD versus Nvidia deal nor did we make it out to be one. The Radeon 7950 is superiro for overclocking, so if overclocking was to be considered, it would be superior. I also notice that luciferano made a Nvidia recommendation, not just AMD recommendations.

There isn't a 660 Ti for $225 after MIR in this combo deal, so how good of a deal that may be is irrelevant.
 


That's the money saved by the combo deal, not the cost of the 660 Ti and regardless, that combo is still an inferior value to what can be had no matter what part of it you address the savings with. It doesn't matter how you look at it, that combo is a not a great deal and much better deals are available.
 
sorry bro .....you're wrong on both fronts.......you're way to wrapped up on minor detials to realize it....


i think Delirious788 summed it up perfectly

"I would get the deal. Dont think too much into it, like we are. Honestly, it is a solid build. The only improvement is getting a 7950 for about the same price as the 660Ti and getting a few more fps out of it. The big thing the 7950 helps for is huge resolutions, like 27in monitors and 2+ monitors."

he's just not as argumentative as me

but this is going nowhere....not like the op is reading any of this......
 


IDC what he'd do because he wants to get the inferior deal. I'm also not wrong on any fronts in this thread.

How good that deal is is irrelevant because it's inferior to others that can have superior performance at significantly lower prices.
 

oh you bet i do :) every time someone posts something new i look at it