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Hi, i'm going to build a desktop pc for gaming.
the following is the hardware i choosed

INTEL INTEL CPU SKYLAKE, CORE I5-6500, 4 CORE, 3,20GHZ, SOCKET FCLGA1151, 6MB CA
MSI Z170A KRAIT GAMING - SOCKET 1151 - CHIPSET Z170
ASUS STRIX GEFORCE GTX 960 DC2OC 4GB GAMING
Corsair CMK8GX4M1A2666C16 Vengeance LPX Kit 1x8 GB DDR4, 2666 MHz, CL16 XMP 2.0
Corsair CX600M, ATX/EPS CXM600 Watt 80 Plus, Bronze
SSD Samsung 850 EVO 250GB SATA 3 2,5" MZ-75E250B

Is it ok? i mean there is something that should i change?
PS: i have already got case/tower (the box in which i'll put the pc :) )
PPS: i have also another HDD, i'll use it as secondary partition, and the ssd as primary.
Thanks 😀
(My budget is around 750 Euro)
 
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Darkbreeze
No problem. Do you have a case, operating system and optical drive already, or do you not need some of those? If you have a case already, is it an ATX or micro-ATX case?


Actually, it looks like PCPartpicker doesn't show much availability at all on Skylake components for Amazon Italia or Ebay. Mostly Haswell Refresh, which is fine. Performance is nearly identical anyhow, as discussed earlier in the thread. The only real difference is on the Z170 boards there are more PCIe lanes available for use with graphics cards, M.2 and PCI storage devices and other add in cards, and the use of DDR4. DDR4 really isn't any faster than comparable DDR3, but going forward all boards are going to use DDR4 so if you don't want to have to buy memory AGAIN...
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Personally, I'd go with a different power supply. The lower end Corsair units like that one are not the best choices when it comes to longevity. They work fine at first, but increasingly have issues once beyond 6 months to a year.

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html



I'd go with this Seasonic built XFX unit:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Power Supply: XFX XTR 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($67.15 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $67.15
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-11-30 15:49 EST-0500

 
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As said, just for gaming, to play new titles like the new Assassin's creed, Fallout, or Black Desert Online (when it 'll come online).
So do you suggest to buy this power suply?
PSU


Another one question, does superbiiz ship to Europe?
Do you suggest me to buy all hardware from this site? Because, to be honest, i was going for ebay/amazon 😀
Thank you for all 😀
 
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Personally, I'd try to get an unlocked CPU (K series) into the budget. You can overclock with the 6500 but only with the BCLK which can be much more difficult. I'm assuming you'd like this PC to keep in the running for a while and the 3.2ghz clock isn't the best when some cards are getting upwards of 4.8ghz. Getting an unlocked card would be a $65 swing, but I think it would be worth the performance gains and potential for overclocking.
 
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A 3.2Ghz Skylake CPU, or Haswell Refresh for that matter, is just as capable for all but the most top shelf gaming systems, as any AMD CPU running at 4.8Ghz. Clock speed isn't the only factor involved these days. A 3.2Ghz Skylake processor can keep up with or outpace a 4.5Ghz processor from two generations back due to high IPC, instructions per clock, capabilities. Sure faster is better if it's the same architecture, but it's not strictly essential and with a lower tiered card like the GTX 960, you're probably not going to see a whole lot of benefit past 3.5Ghz anyhow.

Plus, the OP may not want to or know how to, mess with manually overclocking a CPU and automatic overclocking utilities should be avoided anyhow, because they suck and overvolt your processor to err on the side of stability. Skylake is a bit more involved when it comes to overclocking than past generations too, so it's probably not going to be as simple as just clicking on a single setting in the bios and then calling it a day.
 
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Comparing intel to intel, a difference in clock speed can make a big difference skylake to haswell.
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-6500-vs-Intel-Core-i5-4690K/3513vs2432
I'm not sure why you're making assumptions about both my recommendations or the ops intents. I never proposed an AMD build, but to say a haswell clocked at 4.0 won't rock the 3.2 skylake chip is ludicrous.

You don't have to take my word. You can look up benchmarks that support what I'm saying. You'll be able to get into a Haswell build for less and have the option at least that if you wanted to try overclocking you can do it much more easily. This would give your system longevity. I asked the op what had sold him on the skylake to ensure he did not miss anything from skylake by running a haswell system.
 
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I didn't say that, or anything like it. I also didn't indicate YOU had said anything about AMD. Maybe you should reread my post.

Fact is, clock for clock, Haswell refresh and Skylake have nearly identical performance. No difference in gaming or any other benchmarks aside from handbrake. It still doesn't change the fact that unless you're playing one of the few games that are mainly CPU bound, anything faster than about 3.5Ghz max isn't going to make a hell of a lot of difference unless you're using a higher tiered card than the GTX 960 which is more likely to be the bottleneck than a 3.2Ghz Skylake processor is.
 
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Guys as final config. i'll go for this hardware:

MSI GeForce GTX 960 4GD5T OC 4GB
I5-6500, 3.2 GHz (Turbo Boost 3.6 GHz), 4 core, 6MB Cache Socket 1151
RAM DDR4 8GB PC 2133 Kingston HyperX FURY HX421C14FB/8
Thermaltake Berlin 80Plus, 630W
SSD 850 EVO 2.5

but i'm still undecided... what do you suggest between
ASROCK B150M HDV (D) or MSI Z170A Krait Gaming ?
I'm a noob 😀 i'll not overclock CPU/GPU/RAM so for what i'm able to do(just assembly the components and play games 😀 ) what is better?
i have to stay near 750 € and with the MSI i'm over this budget (near 780-790). MSI worth the over budget?
Again, thank you !
 
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I've had issues with ASROCK MOBO in the past, not to say they're bad or don't have a place in the market, but MSI, ASUS, Gigabyte...they just seem to have a more sturdy support system, better drivers, and better overall quality. I'd go with the MSI.
 
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The build looks solid, definitely change the PSU to one of the ones suggested, but beyond that if you can fit 16GB of RAM into the build I'd do that as adding an 8GB card later isn't always an option as RAM is only guaranteed to work with the RAM it is packaged with. RAM, even the exact same model, may not work perfectly with each other and can cause some difficult to diagnose issues.
 
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For the ram of course, but actually 16 gb are to much, the mobo has 2 channel (the black and the white dual channel slots) so i'll buy another 2x4 later. For the PSU thermaltake is not a good brand? i should change it?
 
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That's the point, those are stick of RAM may not work with the current RAM. RAM issues are notoriously difficult to diagnose and can cause shutdowns randomly and sporadically with all kinds of different errors. I would suggest just spending the extra $20-$30 to get 16GB now and not have to worry about it later.

I would go with one of the PSUs Darkbreeze recommended before I'd go with the thermaltake.
 
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That Thermaltake PSU is not a good choice. You definitely want to change that. In all the years Thermaltake has been around, they've only contracted a handful of good designs on power supplies through various manufacturers, (they don't MAKE power supplies, they just sell them with their own labels on them) and that model isn't one of them SFAIK. If you want to be sure you don't buy a piece of crap, then stick to models that are listed at the following link in a position of Tier 1 or Tier 2 and are at least 450w.

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html


As to the motherboard, there is very little reason to go with a Z170 motherboard if you're going to use a non-K SKU locked processor like the i5-6500. K SKUs are the unlocked chips meant for overclocking and the Z170 boards are intended for that. There ARE a few other reasons for using Z170 boards even if you have no plans to overclock, but it doesn't seem as though any of those reasons apply in this situation according to your parts list and apparent intentions.

What is you FULL budget for the entire build and what components do you already have? Also, are there any particular vendors you absolutely prefer to use and what country are you in specifically? Let's see if we can get you a build that has all you want with the best component selection possible for the price.
 
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My entire budget is 750 € and i'm from Italy.
I need to buy the following parts: cpu, motherboard, GPU, PSU, ram, SSD.
No particular vendors, just the one who sell to lower price 😀
Can you suggest me a different better build staying around 750€ ?
With my config. i'm near 780€ buying parts from amazon.it and ebay.it. Again, thank you for all the help that all of you are giving to me 😀
 
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No problem. Do you have a case, operating system and optical drive already, or do you not need some of those? If you have a case already, is it an ATX or micro-ATX case?


Actually, it looks like PCPartpicker doesn't show much availability at all on Skylake components for Amazon Italia or Ebay. Mostly Haswell Refresh, which is fine. Performance is nearly identical anyhow, as discussed earlier in the thread. The only real difference is on the Z170 boards there are more PCIe lanes available for use with graphics cards, M.2 and PCI storage devices and other add in cards, and the use of DDR4. DDR4 really isn't any faster than comparable DDR3, but going forward all boards are going to use DDR4 so if you don't want to have to buy memory AGAIN at some point down the road when you're ready to upgrade, and don't want to hassle with trying to sell what will by then be old DDR3, it's worth considering.

If you want to go with Skylake, then we need to know what size case you'll be using in order to select an appropriate motherboard. Same applies to the power supply.



 
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