[SOLVED] My pc is severely underperforming

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I recently upgraded my Ryzen 5 2600 to a 3700x and my 2060 to a 3080, when I play warzone with settings on low and high (1080p) I get 100fps avg (this isn't only warzone it's other games also), how do I fix????????

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CPU: Ryzen 7 3700x
GPU: EVGA ftw3 ULTRA rtx 3080
Mem: 16gb 3200mhz Gskill Riptjaws
CPU COOLER: stock wraith PRISM
MOBO: ASUS B450-f Gaming ROG
 
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Your front fans are wrong, turn them around. Right now you have ALL fans in the case oriented as exhaust fans. You need the front fans to be oriented as intake fans. Just turning those fans around should shave 10-15°C off your internal temps. Really it depends, but it absolutely needs to be done.

Also, reset your BIOS to the default settings, then reconfigure any custom fan profiles or boot options you need to have set a certain way. Then DISABLE PBO (Precision boost overdrive) as the stock cooler is not capable enough to adequately handle it. Nor is it capable enough to handle ANY kind of manual or automatic overclock. In fact, in my opinion, the stock coolers that come with ALL of the Ryzen CPUs are not capable enough really to...
If there are any steps listed here that you have not already done, it would be advisable to do so if for no other reason than to be able to say you've already done it and eliminate that possibility.



First,

Make sure your motherboard has the MOST recent BIOS version installed. If it does not, then update. This solves a high number of issues even in cases where the release that is newer than yours makes no mention of improving graphics card or other hardware compatibility. They do not list every change they have made when they post a new BIOS release.


Second,

Go to the product page for your motherboard on the manufacturer website. Download and install the latest driver versions for the chipset, storage controllers, audio and network adapters. Do not skip installing a newer driver just because you think it is not relevant to the problem you are having. The drivers for one device can often affect ALL other devices and a questionable driver release can cause instability in the OS itself. They don't release new drivers just for fun. If there is a new driver release for a component, there is a good reason for it. The same goes for BIOS updates. When it comes to the chipset drivers, if your motherboard manufacturer lists a chipset driver that is newer than what the chipset developer (Intel or AMD, for our purposes) lists, then use that one. If Intel (Or AMD) shows a chipset driver version that is newer than what is available from the motherboard product page, then use that one. Always use the newest chipset driver that you can get and always use ONLY the chipset drivers available from either the motherboard manufacturer, AMD or Intel.


IF you have other hardware installed or attached to the system that are not a part of the systems covered by the motherboard drivers, then go to the support page for THAT component and check to see if there are newer drivers available for that as well. If there are, install them.


Third,

Make sure your memory is running at the correct advertised speed in the BIOS. This may require that you set the memory to run at the XMP profile settings. Also, make sure you have the memory installed in the correct slots and that they are running in dual channel which you can check by installing CPU-Z and checking the Memory and SPD tabs. For all modern motherboards that are dual channel memory architectures, from the last ten years at least, if you have two sticks installed they should be in the A2 (Called DDR4_1 on some boards) or B2 (Called DDR4_2 on some boards) which are ALWAYS the SECOND and FOURTH slots over from the CPU socket, counting TOWARDS the edge of the motherboard EXCEPT on boards that only have two memory slots total. In that case, if you have two modules it's not rocket science, but if you have only one, then install it in the A1 or DDR4_1 slot.



Fourth (And often tied for most important along with an up-to-date motherboard BIOS),

A clean install of the graphics card drivers. Regardless of whether you "already installed the newest drivers" for your graphics card or not, it is OFTEN a good idea to do a CLEAN install of the graphics card drivers. Just installing over the old drivers OR trying to use what Nvidia and AMD consider a clean install is not good enough and does not usually give the same result as using the Display Driver Uninstaller utility. This has a very high success rate and is always worth a shot.


If you have had both Nvidia and AMD cards installed at any point on that operating system then you will want to run the DDU twice. Once for the old card drivers (ie, Nvidia or AMD) and again for the currently installed graphics card drivers (ie, AMD or Nvidia). So if you had an Nvidia card at some point in the past, run it first for Nvidia and then after that is complete, run it again for AMD if you currently have an AMD card installed.


Graphics card driver CLEAN install guide using the Wagnard tools DDU



And last, but not least, if you have never done a CLEAN install of Windows, or have upgraded from an older version to Windows 10, or have been through several spring or fall major Windows updates, it might be a very good idea to consider doing a clean install of Windows if none of these other solutions has helped. IF you are using a Windows installation from a previous system and you didn't do a clean install of Windows after building the new system, then it's 99.99% likely that you NEED to do a CLEAN install before trying any other solutions.


How to do a CLEAN installation of Windows 10, the RIGHT way


 
Really? What BIOS version are you currently running?

Which chipset driver did you install?

Did you run the DDU normally or while in safe mode?

What case model do you have?

Have many case fans?

What DIRECTION is EACH case fan oriented to blow, for EACH location?

What kind of temperatures are you getting on both your CPU and your GPU while gaming or running something demanding? I would recommend using HWinfo, Ryzen master or Core Temp for CPU monitoring and Afterburner or HWinfo for GPU temps.

Are you saying you DID a clean install of Windows, already, and reinstalled all your drivers and games, and are still having the same problem, because that seems pretty unrealistic since you only posted this issue a while ago. Keep in mind, a refresh, reset, etc. are not the same as a clean install, by a long shot.
 
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That is not a model. That is a vague description of a Microcenter house brand power supply. What is the ACTUAL model of the unit, because there are HUGE differences even from the same brand, with the same "watts", between different models. One could be good, while another is ok, while a third from the same label is a fire bomb. Look on the label on the side of the PSU and tell us what the ACTUAL model is. Or at the very least, the exact series.

Microcenter's Powerspec units range from "ok" to "wtf" dumpster fire quality, so it's probably rather important.
 
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FranticApples

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FranticApples

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That is not a model. That is a vague description of a Microcenter house brand power supply. What is the ACTUAL model of the unit, because there are HUGE differences even from the same brand, with the same "watts", between different models. One could be good, while another is ok, while a third from the same label is a fire bomb. Look on the label on the side of the PSU and tell us what the ACTUAL model is. Or at the very least, the exact series.

Microcenter's Powerspec units range from "ok" to "wtf" dumpster fire quality, so it's probably rather important.

Model Number : PS 750BSM
 

FranticApples

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Earlier today I updated my bios to a newer verison and it reset the xmp settings, I had, enabled xmp before the bios update The cpu is overclocked, using stock cooler that came with 3700x.
 
Im not too experienced with overclocking but your cpu should be able to boost upto 4.4Ghz so what you have done is limited it speed. Someone with more experience will be able to advise you further but when I was running a 3600x, I played around with overclocking but found that just leaving it to do it's own thing without overclocking I would get better performance. The problem with overclocking ryzen's is that you are always going to lose max boost speed for an all core overclock.
 
Your front fans are wrong, turn them around. Right now you have ALL fans in the case oriented as exhaust fans. You need the front fans to be oriented as intake fans. Just turning those fans around should shave 10-15°C off your internal temps. Really it depends, but it absolutely needs to be done.

Also, reset your BIOS to the default settings, then reconfigure any custom fan profiles or boot options you need to have set a certain way. Then DISABLE PBO (Precision boost overdrive) as the stock cooler is not capable enough to adequately handle it. Nor is it capable enough to handle ANY kind of manual or automatic overclock. In fact, in my opinion, the stock coolers that come with ALL of the Ryzen CPUs are not capable enough really to handle the CPUs they come with. The ONLY way any of the Wraith coolers are capable enough is if you are using one for a higher end CPU model with a lower end CPU model, and even then that's a waste of money unless you find one for very cheap.

In EVERY case I've come across so far, performance was VASTLY improved (As was sanity, by eliminating the damn up-down ramping of the CPU cooler fan constantly) by the addition of a good 140mm air cooler or some flavor of 240/280mm AIO cooler depending on the CPU model. In any event, the stock cooler is absolutely not adequate for overclocking of any kind and doing so is not only helping anything, it is almost certainly compounding the problem.
 
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