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Ok, after 2 weeks and various pieces of hardware this PC is still locking up
at random points, for example after 3-5 mins of a game, 'scanning PCI
devices' in AIDA and occasinally on the desktop or in 3DMark.

I have the following hardware setup;

DFI 'LanParty' nForce2 Ultra
XP2200+ TbredA 266FSB
Creative FX5600 128Mb
768Mb PC2700 DDR (3 x 256Mb)
80Gb PATA Maxtor 7200rpm HDD
300w Sparkle PSU

The motherboard is a replacement from a failed KX7-333, but thats another
story.
The CPU has been tested on another board and works fine, the RAM passes
memtest continually for hours.
I have tried another 300w PSU, PCI graphics card and a different hard disk.

Yet it still locks up randomly... any ideas?

hamman
 
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>Ok, after 2 weeks and various pieces of hardware this PC is still locking up
>at random points, for example after 3-5 mins of a game, 'scanning PCI
>devices' in AIDA and occasinally on the desktop or in 3DMark.
>
>I have the following hardware setup;
>
>DFI 'LanParty' nForce2 Ultra
>XP2200+ TbredA 266FSB
>Creative FX5600 128Mb
>768Mb PC2700 DDR (3 x 256Mb)
>80Gb PATA Maxtor 7200rpm HDD
>300w Sparkle PSU
>
>The motherboard is a replacement from a failed KX7-333, but thats another
>story.
>The CPU has been tested on another board and works fine, the RAM passes
>memtest continually for hours.
>I have tried another 300w PSU, PCI graphics card and a different hard disk.
>
>Yet it still locks up randomly... any ideas?
>
>hamman
>
I just had a new Biostar mobo like that. I run about 7 of the same
model. Swapping out everything but the mobo proved the new mobo was
the problem. RMA'd through newegg and the new setup runs perfect.
 
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"Andrew J" <ajpk3@hotmail.comremove> wrote in message
news:nphpa01a69db4rjk2k65ig95p408h1ojhm@4ax.com...
>
>
> >Ok, after 2 weeks and various pieces of hardware this PC is still locking
up
> >at random points, for example after 3-5 mins of a game, 'scanning PCI
> >devices' in AIDA and occasinally on the desktop or in 3DMark.
> >
> >I have the following hardware setup;
> >
> >DFI 'LanParty' nForce2 Ultra
> >XP2200+ TbredA 266FSB
> >Creative FX5600 128Mb
> >768Mb PC2700 DDR (3 x 256Mb)
> >80Gb PATA Maxtor 7200rpm HDD
> >300w Sparkle PSU
> >
> >The motherboard is a replacement from a failed KX7-333, but thats another
> >story.
> >The CPU has been tested on another board and works fine, the RAM passes
> >memtest continually for hours.
> >I have tried another 300w PSU, PCI graphics card and a different hard
disk.
> >
> >Yet it still locks up randomly... any ideas?
> >
> >hamman
> >
> I just had a new Biostar mobo like that. I run about 7 of the same
> model. Swapping out everything but the mobo proved the new mobo was
> the problem. RMA'd through newegg and the new setup runs perfect.

Thats what i thought, but this is the second nForce i've tried in the
system.

Thanks anyway.

hamman
 
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>Thats what i thought, but this is the second nForce i've tried in the
>system.
>
>Thanks anyway.
>
>hamman

In some cases turning off BIOS Shadowing might fix it.
I would use a program to log the voltages. Look at them after a
problem. Asus Probe does this along with others. The 5 volt logs are
often the most important.
 
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"JAD" <jde> wrote in message news:10apksrdospre4e@corp.supernews.com...
> have you installed the OB LAN? have set the IP address to static or
> DHCP?
>
>
Both LAN cards are setup, i'm using the gigabit nVidia one.
The IP is one of my static WAN IP's from RIPE

hamman
 
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"JAD" <jde> wrote in message news:10apmpsb7coo245@corp.supernews.com...
> <The IP is one of my static WAN IP's from RIPE
>
> is that connecting to the server ok? also the other one is setup for
> what? Are you running a LAN currently? Router?
>
>
All of the LAN IP's are external ones, connected to an ADSL router with no
NAT.
Only one of the NIC's is connected to the network

hamman
 
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On Thu, 20 May 2004 17:32:45 GMT, Wes Newell <w.newell@TAKEOUTverizon.net>
wrote:

>On Thu, 20 May 2004 15:00:37 +0100, Rap wrote:
>
>> I had lock up's when using a 300 watt psu,I went up to a 350 watt and it
>> went away.
>>
>That would be my guess too. Although if he he has to buy now, he might as
>well get a 550W. Amamax sells one that would power my A64 where my 400W
>wouldn't. $15 shipped.
>

... and that $15 PSU may not even have a true output higher than 300W, and
may fry components trying to exceed that.

I don't know how to break this to you, but the facts count. The fact is
that an A64 uses less power and you've been running yours for a relatively
short period of time, you have no idea if the 'board will be fried a year
from now.
 
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On Fri, 21 May 2004 06:21:23 GMT, Wes Newell <w.newell@TAKEOUTverizon.net>
wrote:


> I really don't care.


That much is clear.
 
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On Thu, 20 May 2004 15:00:37 +0100, "Rap" <ABC@123.COM> wrote:

>I had lock up's when using a 300 watt psu,I went up to a 350 watt and it
>went away.

Maybe... But I'm running a 1Gig, XP3000+, FX5900, 80GB hd, two modern
hispeed optical drives, soundblaster, - on a Sparkle 300W (FSP Watts
seem to be pretty 'big'). And he has tried an alternative PSU.

ancra
 
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<snip>

Thanks for the help everyone, but it looks like the replacement motherboard
is faulty.

It just sits there making random clicking noises and the diagnostic LED's
going mEnTaL

Now i get to see how good DFI's support is...

Thanks,

Hamman
 
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Hamman wrote:
> <snip>
>
> Thanks for the help everyone, but it looks like the replacement motherboard
> is faulty.
>
> It just sits there making random clicking noises and the diagnostic LED's
> going mEnTaL
>
> Now i get to see how good DFI's support is...
>
> Thanks,
>
> Hamman
>
>

Those clicking noises are coming from the speaker, right? Motherboards
generally don't have moving parts (aside from the sometimes present and
always annoying northbridge fan).

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"spodosaurus" <spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com> wrote in message
news:40ae092f$1@quokka.wn.com.au...
> Hamman wrote:
> > <snip>
> >
> > Thanks for the help everyone, but it looks like the replacement
motherboard
> > is faulty.
> >
> > It just sits there making random clicking noises and the diagnostic
LED's
> > going mEnTaL
> >
> > Now i get to see how good DFI's support is...
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Hamman
> >
> >
>
> Those clicking noises are coming from the speaker, right? Motherboards
> generally don't have moving parts (aside from the sometimes present and
> always annoying northbridge fan).
>
> --
Yes, most of them are... <stares a voltage regs>

Don't get me startd on northbridge fans, thats what killed my KX7-333 and
started this whole saga. Damn Abit.

hamman
 
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Hamman wrote:
> "spodosaurus" <spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com> wrote in message
> news:40ae092f$1@quokka.wn.com.au...
>
>>Hamman wrote:
>>
>>><snip>
>>>
>>>Thanks for the help everyone, but it looks like the replacement
>
> motherboard
>
>>>is faulty.
>>>
>>>It just sits there making random clicking noises and the diagnostic
>
> LED's
>
>>>going mEnTaL
>>>
>>>Now i get to see how good DFI's support is...
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>
>>>Hamman
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Those clicking noises are coming from the speaker, right? Motherboards
>>generally don't have moving parts (aside from the sometimes present and
>>always annoying northbridge fan).
>>
>>--
>
> Yes, most of them are... <stares a voltage regs>
>
> Don't get me startd on northbridge fans, thats what killed my KX7-333 and
> started this whole saga. Damn Abit.
>
> hamman
>
>

I replace northbridge fans with zalman heatsinks. Just that little bit
less noise, and those fans rarely last even until the end of warranty.

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On Sat, 22 May 2004 02:12:39 +0800, spodosaurus <spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com>
wrote:


>
>I replace northbridge fans with zalman heatsinks. Just that little bit
>less noise, and those fans rarely last even until the end of warranty.

The Zalman passive 'sinks are very nice if/when the CPU 'sink blows
towards them, but if you'd wanted to use the orig. NB 'sink it would be
slightly quieter and much longer lasting with an initial lubing with
high-viscosity oil, or reduce fan speed with inline resistor, diodes in
series, or fan controller. As good as the Zalmans are they won't keep a NB
as cool as a fanned 'sink... mostly an issue if trying for max o'c.
 
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