Nanodot Memory 100X Faster Than Today's Memory Chips

[DRosencraft]

Think how I feel at 40............

But yes I agree with you. There are too many people scared of new tech who are holding us back. Look at this website........ 1/2 the posts on here are people lamenting newer/better/faster.

The good enough crowd....

And this is a tech website. Imagine the mentality of the general public.

While the general public may be apathetic to change, I don't think there is a problem in tech right now of not enough change/improvement. I think it's quite the opposite - we've gotten too used to everything happening so fast we're already looking for the next thing before the last one is finished developed. Just a decade ago much of the stuff we have in tech today was fantasy.

There's nothing wrong with better and faster, but newer for the sake of being newer doesn't cut it. I can look at this story and be happy that someone is researching this whether or not it translates to a consumer product. Why? This tech would likely translate to a type of storage drive like an SSD. With the exception of very high volume data users directly moving data between drives, performance is already near the point at which it is near instant relative to human reaction capability. In other words, there is so little time between when most apps and programs load that a 100x speed boost would be extreme overkill. It doesn't matter if graphics cards eventually attain the ability to render at 200fps because humans can't see anything at that speed. The purpose of technology is to improve or simplify the way people do things. An SSD with Read/Write times at 550,000 MB/s sounds fantastic, but it's about as useful as a race car in Midtown Manhattan. We should be inteligent with the way we go about pursuing progress, rather than wasting time and effort on things that have little benefit or use. Not saying that's neccessarily the case here, but it's a distinction to make between "proof of concept" research and "practical" research.

 

[threefish]

[citation][nom]fuzznarf[/nom]100x faster @ 4kb capacity[/citation]
That would be fine for CPU cache, and I'd be happy to have it.

 

[freggo]

[citation][nom]fuzznarf[/nom]100x faster @ 4kb capacity[/citation]

Not a problem actually.
Example, your hard drive stores a cluster at a time. Typically 4096 bytes, no matter if you 'wrote 1 byte or 4096 of them.

so a 4k 'dot', arranged in a 1k x 1k grid will get you 4GB. Now arrange those into a 1k x 1k 'super grid' and you have 4 petabytes.

Can not be done? My 1st PC had 64k of memory with a 5MB full height 5 1/4" HD. Now I have a 64GB USB stick on my key ring; that's a million of those old PCs... 🙂

 

[zipz0p]

[citation][nom]rebel1280[/nom]You should be on Big Bang Theory..... I understood nothing what you just said sir. Congrats[/citation]
I am a physicist... so...

[citation][nom]freggo[/nom]Not a problem actually.Example, your hard drive stores a cluster at a time. Typically 4096 bytes, no matter if you 'wrote 1 byte or 4096 of them.so a 4k 'dot', arranged in a 1k x 1k grid will get you 4GB. Now arrange those into a 1k x 1k 'super grid' and you have 4 petabytes.Can not be done? My 1st PC had 64k of memory with a 5MB full height 5 1/4" HD. Now I have a 64GB USB stick on my key ring; that's a million of those old PCs... 🙂[/citation]
These QDs are not at all on a grid. They self-arrange randomly on a 2D plane. So far, while many attempts have been made, nobody to my knowledge has managed to actually place high-quality QDs deterministically. So let's not get too excited about this research.

The selection of sciencey news presented on this site is miserable at best and always sensational and poorly explained.

 

[freggo]

[citation][nom]zipz0p[/nom]I am a physicist... so...These QDs are not at all on a grid. They self-arrange randomly on a 2D plane. So far, while many attempts have been made, nobody to my knowledge has managed to actually place high-quality QDs deterministically. So let's not get too excited about this research.The selection of sciencey news presented on this site is miserable at best and always sensational and poorly explained.[/citation]

I was not implying that this technology is anywhere close to production level.
Naturally, first you find what can be done, than you find out HOW it can be done, and finally you have to see if it can be converted to a large scale process economically.

Takes bags of time and gobs of money. And IF you get a product on the market eventually you either risk being to late because the competition came up with something else (not always better, but more popular [see VHS]). And of course consumers will bitch about the high initial cost; not realizing the money and compound interest invested in the new gadget that needs to be recovered.

 

[zakaron]

I bet Rambus is filing a patent as we discuss...

But I do like the sounds of this tech. I mean I've been waiting years for that super fast bio-algae RAM or whatever it was. At least this sounds more promising.

 

[yumri]

[citation][nom]madooo12[/nom]the thing uses LASER so it's hard to replace NAND in some small size applications, like the HDD is too big to fit in your phonestill looking forward for products using this technology[/citation]
a product to use this in is called the light based sever, light based desktops, light based laptops, and monitors but that assumes they will actually start making light based components to a computer so you will not have to have a chip to go between electric and light based signals also all of this are still in universities as light based stuff is not very much easy to DIY with thus no company is actually selling it as it requires a group effort by all the component makers including a CPU maker, motherboard maker, and RAM maker to switch to light based signals instead of the transitional electric signals used in the last 30+ years of computers.

 

[A Bad Day]

Oh look, I have a patent that barely mentions this. I think I'll wait for it to reach commercial success.

 

[ikyung]

So.. parallel computing. The last barrier before silicon becomes obsolete.

 

[ik242]

ik242 - a microsecond and a Megahertz are not equal measurements... one is a measurement of cycles per second (hertz) and one is an actual measurement of time... where did you get 1μs = 1MHz?

read my message then comment. i never put equal sign between the two - YOU did.
on the other hand, if you knew relationship of frequency (f) and period (T) you would understand (f=1/T).
1μs corresponds to 1MHz, but they are not equal numerically or dimensionally. :lol:

 

[ik242]

Failure.

i don't know if i should agree or not because it is not clear which post (or poster) you consider wrong.

 

[stuffstuff]

[citation][nom]madooo12[/nom]the thing uses LASER so it's hard to replace NAND in some small size applications, like the HDD is too big to fit in your phonestill looking forward for products using this technology[/citation]
apple put the hard drive in a mobile device. It was called a microdrive, and was used in early ipods. But then, flash started to be used, since it uses much less power, has greater capacities, etc. This will probably never be used though, because we don't need memory that fast yet. Also, using a laser is too inefficient, its like the flash memory that needed a strong charge to be erased, it was never very useful.

 

[youssef 2010]

The speed sounds promising

 

[rantoc]

[citation][nom]zodiacfml[/nom]green laser? hmm....HD manufacturers already has technology similar to this using very fast burst of laser to flip magnetic properties of the material.[/citation]

Actually it's called HAMR (Heat assisted magnetic recording) your referring to, the laser don't write the bits but rather heat up the magnetic layer so the normal head can write to it faster (and at higher density?) than it would been achievable in normal operation temperatures.

 

[xGhostFleax]

Long story short, too many greedy people are involved in marketing and would lose too much money if this was made at a consumer level. Vendors, for example, make a killing on all the small things that we use to keep our systems cool at these slow speeds. As long as they keep us wowed by this new(OLD) tech like ddr3 memory and ddr4 around the corner, we will not see any of this any time soon. Let's say just out of some luck we get this in the next 5 years, the prices would be outrageous. You know why? Because it can be(Kinda like nVidia gpu's; way over priced). Funny fact, being a sales leader for a couple years for a world wide corp(name hidden) in technologies, I had the opportunity to see a lot of the kept secrets. They have a flexible see through flat screen about the size of a mouse pad in thickness, the dual core processors were used by Disney in the 80's(So funny how behind we are), the "new" tablet table titled "Surface" was invented about 11 years ago and was suppose to be put into high class sports bars for people to order via the touch screen, but marketing kept it out. We won't see this nano-tech in consumer PC's for another 10-20 years. Sorry people, someone needs their 50million dollar bonus.