Need advice on new gaming rig

[Zanduz]

Oh wait, its for the storage, right?

 

[djangoringo]

It's what you connect to mass storage devices(hdd, ssd, optical drives)
Sata III means 600 MB/s (only for sdd to take advantage of that).

 

[Zanduz]

So it means that the z77 extreme mobo can handle up to 4 ssd's at once?

 

[jonjonjon]

somewhat. asmedia sata3 ports suck. i wouldn't hook my ssd's up them.

 

[Zanduz]

somewhat. asmedia sata3 ports suck. i wouldn't hook my ssd's up them.

Its only two of the four sata 3 ports that run through an asmedia controller.

 

[djangoringo]

Any mobo can handle 4 ssd at once, only need 4 sata ports.
But for good SSD SATA III, yes, it has the 2 intel sata III ports that support raid, and two asmedia sata III ports, i doubt you'll be using 4 ssds, the two sata ports of the intel is enough for two ssds(and it's recommended using it not the asmedia)...it's just useful if you're planning to add a lot of hdds.

 

[Zanduz]

@djangoringo the case is only compatible with micro-atx mobos, and neither of the suggested mobos are micro-atx. It says so even on their own website http://www.fractal-design.com/?view=product&category=2&prod=59
Lool under "specifications"

Oh wait my mistake. Saw your suggestion was the midi not the mini.

 

[r_Jay]

This is going to be my first ever home build gaming rig. I don't have an exact budget, but i'd like to keep it to $1500 or less. Obviously the main use of it is going to be gaming. However, i'm also gonna use it for 3D-modelling, work and some other stuff as well.
I have already taken a look at some components and started to put together a list of possible components to my system. However, i am not quite sure if they are compatible (fx. motherboard and gpu) and i have absolutely no idea which power supply to get. So i would really appreciate any help and advice. And also feel free to come up with whole new system build suggestions - just make sure to keep the price at or below $1500.

My list of components:

CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K or Intel Core i7-2700K
Motherboard: Asus P8P67 WS Revolution ATX LGA1155
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2 X 8 GB) DDR3-1600
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7870 Black Edition 2GB or Gainward GeForce GTX 660 2GB
CPU Cooler: Corsair H80

i would think you only need a 600-750w psu check out corsair's gaming series psu's there designed for gaming, also check out 3xs for you compatibility issues they'll build your computer install everything and test it.

 

[Zanduz]

Corsair Vengeance 8 GB (2 X 4 GB) DDR3 1600 MHz CL7

or

G.Skill Ripjaws-X 8 GB (2 X 4 GB) DDR3 1866 MHz CL8

Which is better?

 

[admbautista]

About the memory. I see you've changed it to 4 X 4. Is it better have 4 X 4 or 2 X 8? Or is there no difference? Just curious.

And about the cooler, i heard its better to have water cooling instead of air in case i wanna OC, cause then it'll be way more effective.

I just fast picked from the pcpartpicker but I would go for a 2x8. There is difference ofc. It owuld depend on your memory controller. But 8gb is more than enough too. so you can go also for 2x4.

About the cooler, depends on how high you want to OC. but there are alot of air coolers like hyper 212 evo matches or even beats water coolers.

 

[djangoringo]

Corsair Vengeance 8 GB (2 X 4 GB) DDR3 1600 MHz CL7

or

G.Skill Ripjaws-X 8 GB (2 X 4 GB) DDR3 1866 MHz CL8

Which is better?

What prices ?
But the corsair vengeance is better, has lower timings, but if both are expensive ones, drop it, and get 2x4 GB 1600 MHZ cas9 (it's cheaper).
Also i didn't see your question about fractal case, but it's the midi one, not the mini, it fits any standard atx mobo.
Keep in mind i listed all the parts in amazon uk with free deliver for euro countries, i don't know if you can get cheaper parts in your local shops, cause i don't know.

Here's an updated list, change some things cause they're all out of stock : http://pcpartpicker.com/uk/p/whEg

The hdd and dvd drive is out of stock, those thing along with the os buy in your country, if you also see that you can buy cheaper parts in the list get it.

 

[Zanduz]

I just fast picked from the pcpartpicker but I would go for a 2x8. There is difference ofc. It owuld depend on your memory controller. But 8gb is more than enough too. so you can go also for 2x4.

About the cooler, depends on how high you want to OC. but there are alot of air coolers like hyper 212 evo matches or even beats water coolers.

Yea, about the ram. I have decided to go with 8 GB (2 X 4 GB), because it is enough. Then i can upgrade to 16 GB at a later time if i feel like doing so.

Oh okay, didn't know that. Thought water cooling would be way more efficient, hence waters ablity to absorb heat. But i think i'll go with the hyper 212 evo!

 

[Zanduz]

What prices ?
But the corsair vengeance is better, has lower timings, but if both are expensive ones, drop it, and get 2x4 GB 1600 MHZ cas9 (it's cheaper).
Also i didn't see your question about fractal case, but it's the midi one, not the mini, it fits any standard atx mobo.
Keep in mind i listed all the parts in amazon uk with free deliver for euro countries, i don't know if you can get cheaper parts in your local shops, cause i don't know.

Here's an updated list, change some things cause they're all out of stock : http://pcpartpicker.com/uk/p/whEg

The hdd and dvd drive is out of stock, those thing along with the os buy in your country, if you also see that you can buy cheaper parts in the list get it.

The prices at my local shop are pretty much the same. But i think i'll go with the 8 GB (2 X 4 GB) Corsair Vengeance 1600 MHz CL7. It's rather good.

And about the updated list. How come you've changed the video card?

 

[djangoringo]

I changed, cause the other one, is now more expensive and it's out of stock, you get a good card that performs about the same(7970 windforce 3x) under 300 pounds, and in stock.
Or if you prefer nvidia : http://pcpartpicker.com/uk/part/evga-video-card-02gp42670kr

 

[Zanduz]

Honestly, i do prefer nvidia. And i have decided to go with the gtx 670. But i can't decided whether to go with Gigabytes version or Asus'. The gigabyte card is about 38 euros cheaper at my local shop and assassin's creed 3 is included. However the asus is more powerful and outperforms the gtx 680 and has gotten a lot of awards. And btw they are both in stock at my local shop.

Gigabyte: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-video-card-gvn670oc2gd

Asus: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-video-card-gtx670dc2t2gd5 The speed of the card at my local shop is 1137 MHz and not 1.06 GHz.

 

[djangoringo]

Don't get the asus dcii 670 top(highly oc from factory), that card is unstable by default clocks, it has been reported with several problems, crashes and other problems.
Get the 670 gtx gigabyte, it's as good as the asus, it's cheaper and comes with the game.

http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/showthread.php?t=165758&page=8

 

[Zanduz]

Okay, i'll go with the gigabyte then, thanks!

 

[Zanduz]

I must say i need help choosing mobo as well.

http://pcpartpicker.com/uk/part/msi-motherboard-z77agd55

or

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-z77extreme4

 

[djangoringo]

Get the asrock z77 extreme 4 if its at the same price, if the msi one is at a much lower price then get the msi one.
Both are good mobos.

 

[Zanduz]

The asrock is cheaper. But whats your reason in picking the asrock? Both lists you made are with the msi mobo?

 

[djangoringo]

Because in amazon co uk, the msi is cheaper, if in your local stores, the extreme 4 is cheaper get it.
It's a good mobo.

 

[Zanduz]

Oh okay i see.

 

[Zanduz]

Now, the last thing i need is an odd. I know nothing at all about them, but i just need at descent one that can read and write dvd and cd. What would your best suggestion be?

 

[djangoringo]

Any cheap dvd drive will do, see dvd drives from brands like samsung, liteon, asus.

 

[Zanduz]

Will this do?

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-optical-drive-sh224bb