Need help building a decent gaming computer.

xDoiz

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Hello, I'm new to the site. I'm trying to build a new gaming computer to play games like Diablo 3, Skyrim (obviously not at high settings), and other popular games. If you guys can help me I would greatly appreciate it!

Hopefully this is the right forum to post this in.

Approximate Purchase Date: This week or next.

Budget Range: Maximum $800. Don't include the speakers and monitor in the price please.

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, internet, school work (Microsoft Office?), and other programs like iTunes and such. (All important)

Parts Not Required: I need everything besides monitor (maybe, is an Acer AL2017A LCD Monitor good?),

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Probably Newegg, but I'm cool with anything that is cheap.

Country: United States.

Parts Preferences: I have no preference, anything that runs decently high settings (for games like Skyrim) but is also cheap.

Overclocking: I don't know what this means so, whatever makes my PC run faster at higher settings. (I'm new computers and these terms)

SLI or Crossfire: I also don't know what this means, whatever makes my PC run faster at higher settings. (Again, sorry but I'm new to this stuff.)

Monitor Resolution: I'm probably getting a new monitor, but my old one is 1400x1050 (Acer AL2017A LCD Monitor)

Additional Comments: I'm completely new to computer parts and terminology. Please make it easy for me to understand. And I know I won't be able to get the best parts and such with this budget, but I want to get as close as I can to running Skyrim at ultra settings. Thanks for helping to whomever replies to this. :)
 

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Do you have a monitor? If so, go to this website: http://www.whatismyscreenresolution.com/

It does matter. I'd suggest 1080p as a good mid-range setup. However, if you are trying to fit in a monitor, OS, and HDD in a $700 budget, you're not going to get a gaming computer.
 

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Those three parts will be half your max budget.

You could swing a dual-core Celeron/Pentium + an HD 7750, but that's only good for medium settings in games.

I can suggest a super-budget build like that, but we need to be sure you don't have a monitor, a hard drive, or a copy of Windows 7.
 

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You ask for a lot. I don't normally list combo's as they come and go, but there was no way not to with what you asked for and I am still slighly over. there are just no good deals on HDD's and PSU's right now :(

this build should do Skyrim at 40FPS in 1920x1080 on high and 30FPS on ultra.

LITE-ON DVD Burner - Bulk Black SATA Model iHAS124-04 - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106289
Item #: N82E16827106289
$17.99

NZXT Source 210 S210-001 Black “Aluminum Brush / Plastic” ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146075
Item #: N82E16811146075
$39.99

XFX HD-677X-ZNLC Radeon HD 6770 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150540
Item #: N82E16814150540
$20.00 Mail-in Rebate Card
$109.99

HANNspree By Hanns-G HF225DPB Black 21.5" Full HD WideScreen LCD Monitor w/Speakers
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824262011
Item #: N82E16824262011
$129.99

G.SKILL NS 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Desktop Memory Model F3-10600CL9D-4GBNS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231394
Item #: N82E16820231394
$22.99

HDD/PSU COMBO
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.936980

Samsung by Seagate Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ/ST500DM005 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Driv
Item #: N82E16822152181

CORSAIR Builder Series CX500 V2 500W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply
Item #: N82E16817139027
$10.00 Mail-in Rebate Card

MB/CPU COMBO $141.98
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.915628
Intel Pentium G850 Sandy Bridge 2.9GHz LGA 1155 65W Dual-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphic
Item #: N82E16819116397

ASRock H61M/U3S3 LGA 1155 Intel H61 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
Item #: N82E16813157236

Keyboard mouse combo $16
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823126097

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986
Item #: N82E16832116986
$99.99
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$708.90 + $25 shipping and +$30 MIR.

the G series sandybridge processors are just about as poweful for gaming as the i3 2100, they just don't have turbo boost, hyperthreading etc...
 

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This build looks good, but I highly recommend spending $8 more for the LED monitor: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824254058

Also, the Rosewill Redbone case is less HUGE and comes with 2 case fans: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147159

@xDioz, you will get significantly more performance if you're able to stretch your budget to $750 - then you could get an HD 6850 (that can play all games on high settings). Then you'd have a really good entry-level gaming rig.
 
I also like jerreddredd's build; it's a lot like the cheapest build I've been recommending lately; and I agree with jessterman21. Some things to consider:
You mentioned iTunes; do you also need speakers? Especially at the low end, a 2.1 set will sound a LOT better than 2.0.
Because you are a student, are you able to get a discounted copy of Windows? You're in the budget range where an incremental $10 here or there can make a measurable difference.
You may consider a 1600x900 monitor. They're cheaper, but that's still a decent amount of screen space, but will be easier on the graphics card than 1920x1080. I got this one for my test rig, and it's nice: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009256
 

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900p works for me :)
 

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I was trying to give the OP a good base for future upgrades with this build. I went with 1080p monitor and the solid 500w psu for these reasons. If the OP could come up with a student discounted version of Win 7 That few extra $ would make this a sweet little rig.

As it is, the Rig will play most games on medium to high and should do D3 on ultra and Skyrim on high. I would have rather put a HD 7770 or HD 6850 for $20-$30 more, but i just couldn't swing it. HDD and quality PSU prices are rather high right now.

If the OP is near a micro center I might take a look at what they have on special.
 

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i5 2500 kit $543 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.864860
radeon hd 6850 $150 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102908
$693 -$713 for the i5 2500k
here is my computers specs
gaming htpc llano A-8 3870K processor, 500gb seagate momentus hybrid drive, 8gb g.skill sniper ram, sony blu ray player, crossfired 6670, bluetooth, wifi, mini keyboard/mouse combo, 450 WATT 80 PLUS PSU, WINDOWS 7 home premium http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007TN5PZ6

gaming computer fx 6100 6 core processor,nzxt tempest 410 gaming case, 2tb western-digital green hard disk drive, xfx radeon hd 6870, 8gb crucial ram, corsair h60 liquid cooling, samsung blu ray drive, 630 WATT 80 PLUS PSU, WINDOWS 7 home premium http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007T0DXVM
 

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Sorry about the late reply. I have an Acer AL2017 A LCD Monitor. Will this monitor work for games like Skyrim? Or do I need a better one? I have a keyboard&mouse. I need Windows 7. I would need an HDD. @jtt283, I have some standard Dell speakers that go into a green speaker jack. Is that okay for Skyrim/Diablo 3/iTunes? And where can I get a discounted price for Windows 7? @jessterman21 and everyone else: If I can stretch my budget to $800 or so, can I make this build that much better? Thanks everyone, this helps alot!
 

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I tried doing some research on this stuff.. because I have no idea what I'm doing nor talking about. Bear with me if I'm completely wrong on this but, I THINK this is what I need lol:
-A cool looking ATX Tower
-A power supply (if the tower doesn't come with it)
-Some kind of 64-bit CPU.
-An ATX Motherboard.
-A good graphics/video card.
-A good sound card.
-A good hard drive.
-Speakers? (I have Dell A215 Speakers, will that work?)
-Monitor? (I have an Acer AL2017A LCD Monitor, 1400x1050 I think. Will it work?)
-DVD Burner
-Wireless Network Card?
-USB2 Card?
-Windows 7 OS.

I think that's it.. If I'm totally off on this one, I apologize. This is the first time I've ever dealt with this stuff. Thanks for helping me out!

Keep in mind I want to get the highest performance (gaming-wise) for at MAX $800. Thanks.
 
Your Dell speakers will certainly work, but they may just not sound all that great.
Unless it is an Antec case which will include a quality Antec PSU, I have never known any case to include a PSU that may safely be connected to computer components; they're among the worst junk out there.
Recent articles [at Tom's] have included benchmarks that show that there is no longer any price point at which Intel does not outperform AMD in games. Keep that in mind as you review the suggestions you get. Disclaimer: I've built mostly AMD systems over the last few years, and 2/3 of mine are AMD. I'm not sure when or if I'll build another one though.

 

xDoiz

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Thanks alot jtt283. Keeping that in mind, would someone be so kind as to build me a list of parts I should buy like what @jerreddredd did for me at the top of this thread? I want the absolute best build for a maximum $800. I also want my ATX Tower to look pretty cool. Refer to my most recent reply. Thanks alot everyone
 

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I think the OP is re-using his old monitor a bumped his budget to 800$. (on the build i suggested) I say just bump his GPU up to a 6850 and throw in larger faster HDD and he will be set may even bump to a i3.

even with keeping a monitor in the build the $100 helps. I would keep the monitor (the LED one if you want) as the OP's won't bring out the fullness of Skyrim. 1440 x 1050 is kind of an odd resolution.
I run a few builds later and see what I come up with.
 

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this is the best I could do with the OP's revised specs - under $800 with the OP re-using his monitor. this is a solid system, I tried not to cut too many corners. Items were chosen for price/performance and low shipping cost. The Rig will play most everything on high and some on ultra (not Metro :lol:):

i5 2300 Quad core / 8GB Ram / 1TB HDD / GTX 560 GPU
SAMSUNG 22X DVD Burner SATA Model SH-222BB/BEBE - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151244
Item #: N82E16827151244
$16.99

NZXT Source 210 S210-001 Black “Aluminum Brush / Plastic” ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146075
Item #: N82E16811146075
$39.99

Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148697
Item #: N82E16822148697
$99.99

EVGA SuperClocked 01G-P3-1463-KR GeForce GTX 560 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130664
Item #: N82E16814130664
$10.00 Mail-in Rebate Card
$169.99

CORSAIR Builder Series CX500 V2 500W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139027
Item #: N82E16817139027
$10.00 Mail-in Rebate Card
$59.99

Logitech MK120 Black USB Wired Slim Desktop
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823126097
Item #: N82E16823126097
$16.00

CORSAIR 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 Desktop Memory Model CMV8GX3M2A1333C9
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233192
Item #: N82E16820233192
Return Policy: Memory Standard Return Policy
$41.99

ASRock H61M/U3S3 LGA 1155 Intel H61 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157236
Item #: N82E16813157236
$66.99

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986
Item #: N82E16832116986
$99.99

Intel Core i5-2300 Sandy Bridge 2.8GHz (3.1GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115076
Item #: N82E16819115076
$179.99
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$792 +$16 Shipping and has $20 MIR

if these combos are still active the you will save $26 by using them

MB Ram Combo saves $8
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.932677

CPU HDD combo save $18
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.925542

Not sure if you need a wirless lan card or not but this is the one I would get if you do (stays within your budget if you use the combo deals):
$18
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833180078
 

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Here's what I'd recommend for a $700 build (I don't include an OS or peripherals in my builds). This has a MUCH better GPU. However, an HDD isn't included. If you really need to, you can save money by dropping the motherboard a bit.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-2400 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($184.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock Z68 PRO3 GEN3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($46.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($249.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($52.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: OCZ 500W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($48.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $688.93
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-05-19 20:29 EDT-0400)



 

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Yeah... I was gonna say. The HDD and OS, but those are really pretty general.

The PSU is kind of shaky... I mean, at that point, just get one on sale or on a daily deal from Newegg (slickdeals.net is helpful as well). Seasonic is nice, Corsair as well, PC Power and Cooling is great. OCZ is pretty flaky, because they have some great PSUs (like the ZS series) and some less well-built (I guess the ModXStream is one of those. I wasn't aware of it, but I'd believe azeem40). However, good ones from OCZ are good... some bad editions don't reflect on the entire brand.
 
There was no HDD and no optical drive.
There's a 520W modular Seasonic at Newegg for $60 now: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151093 but with another $10 shipping. It's still an excellent choice. Or, for $55 there's this Antec modular: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371016 that has also reviewed well.
The OCZ ModXStream has had good reviews, but was found to contain some lesser parts, like 85C capacitors; I wouldn't expect it to hold up as well over time or under load. OTOH, I do trust Seasonic and Antec (many of the latter's PSUs are made by Seasonic, or another top OEM, Delta).