Need help building pc

[AnimeTech]

So I wanted to build a nice gaming pc that would last me a few years. I currently have an older PC that doesn't run many games anymore. And my monitor isn't much of anything either. I wanted to build a pc around the gigabyte 1080 ti aorus extreme edition, and possibly a Gigabyte - GA-Z270X-Gaming 9 EATX LGA1151 Motherboard, but as I've never really built a pc before, and I don't exactly know what the best parts would be, I don't really know what to use. I want to keep the pc itself under 3000$, and monitor can be any price. Other accessories like keyboards, mouses, headphones, etc that you think should be added to the build, doesn't have to count towards the price of the build itself. Any help is welcome!!! - Update : I forgot to mention that I would like to use a be quiet case, but it doesn't have to be. I just want a quiet build.

 

[AnimeTech]

Well, definitely don't wait for threadripper. The Ryzen 7 lineup is where it's at - don't go over that. Honestly, if you are going to do anything other than gaming, the Ryzen is faster. And it'll help you do it at the same time, while gaming. If you stream, edit or render videos, do animation, do multitasking, or do anything else that benefits from more cores, you need to get Ryzen. The only thing the 7700K is faster at is playing at high refresh rate. Since you only will be getting a 60 Hz monitor, that issue kinda resolves itself - you don't need the 7700K for 60 Hz, now that Ryzen exists. And there's not much difference when it comes to what your experience will be once you boot up - it's the same as an Intel processor - nothing else changes, except the CPU and motherboard chipset.

The Ryzen 7 1700X is the best deal, you could get the 1800X, but it's kind of a waste of money, unless you want higher clock speeds(spoiler alert: the difference between the clock speed of 1700X and 1800X is not much). Just get either the 1700 or the 1700X, and you're good to go for at least 5 years, if not more. There's no reason for you to go with a 7700K, unless you get a high refresh rate 4K monitor, which I wouldn't do - they're batshit expensive.
Bottom line: 1700 or 1700X, and you're set.

Good luck deciding!

What if I want to eventually use the new asus ultrawide when it comes out, the 200hz one, will I be fine with the ryzen?

How is this build? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZdqbQV

 

[Shektron]

I can't be sure about this, but I think it would be safe to say no. 4.1 GHz for running 4K at 200Hz? Probably not. But I'm not sure even the 7700K would be enough for that. You might have to go with an X CPU then, because that's some hefty CPU load right there. Of course I'm saying all of this only through my speculation. According ti an article I just read, they say a 6850K would be better suited for 1080 Ti SLI. Honestly, I doubt Ryzen will cut it for high refresh rate 4K gaming. I'd consider an Intel chip in that case. But are you sure you wanna go with that monitor? Seems kinda unreasonably priced to me...

Again, end decision is on you, but my recommendation would be Intel's upcoming lineup for 4K@200 Hz. They seem more reasonably priced, and will be more suited for such a heavy task. But then, you'd be still paying quite a premium for that kind of processing power.

 

[Shektron]

Sorry, I completely missed the build. Um, looks good, but a single 1080 Ti won't be enough. 1440p@165 Hz is more demanding, actually, than 4K@60 Hz. So, a 1080 Ti SLI is what you'd need for that. Again, since its high refresh rate, Ryzen won't cut it - get the 7700K instead, it'll be more suited for that. I'll have to go now, but I'm sure someone else would be available to help you out - Tom's hardware has enough helpful people . Gotta get my beauty sleep, beauty or not xD.

 

[AnimeTech]

Mmmmm, I was trying to keep the build under 3k, while also keeping everything I wanted in it. So anyone who can help, what would be a good build for a 1440p monitor 165 hz, or should i go down to 144 hz? This is my build now.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DGyVQV

Not sure if I need to change anything or not, but any help would be appreciated..

 

[g-unit1111]

Mmmmm, I was trying to keep the build under 3k, while also keeping everything I wanted in it. So anyone who can help, what would be a good build for a 1440p monitor 165 hz, or should i go down to 144 hz? This is my build now.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DGyVQV

Not sure if I need to change anything or not, but any help would be appreciated..

If you have a budget to meet, then buying a 165Hz monitor isn't going to be exactly what one would call "budget friendly". I would definitely suggest a 144Hz monitor instead.

 

[AnimeTech]

Mmmmm, I was trying to keep the build under 3k, while also keeping everything I wanted in it. So anyone who can help, what would be a good build for a 1440p monitor 165 hz, or should i go down to 144 hz? This is my build now.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DGyVQV

Not sure if I need to change anything or not, but any help would be appreciated..

If you have a budget to meet, then buying a 165Hz monitor isn't going to be exactly what one would call "budget friendly". I would definitely suggest a 144Hz monitor instead.

Would the build I made work with a 144hz monitor? Or even just a single graphics card?

 

[g-unit1111]

Would the build I made work with a 144hz monitor? Or even just a single graphics card?

You'll need at least a single 1080 minimum if you want to get 144Hz.Keep in mind that these monitors are minimum $599. A 1080TI should get decent frame rates, but I wouldn't get anything less than that.

 

[AnimeTech]

Would the build I made work with a 144hz monitor? Or even just a single graphics card?

You'll need at least a single 1080 minimum if you want to get 144Hz.Keep in mind that these monitors are minimum $599. A 1080TI should get decent frame rates, but I wouldn't get anything less than that.

I have up to 3000 to spend on a pc, and I can get any monitor, no matter the price. But I'd like it to be 1440p monitor. In my current build I'm working on, there's this:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MvfFnn

You think that'll be enough for 144hz?

 

[g-unit1111]

I have up to 3000 to spend on a pc, and I can get any monitor, no matter the price. But I'd like it to be 1440p monitor. In my current build I'm working on, there's this:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MvfFnn

You think that'll be enough for 144hz?

Yeah easily. Does that $3K budget include the monitor or not include the monitor?

 

[AnimeTech]

I have up to 3000 to spend on a pc, and I can get any monitor, no matter the price. But I'd like it to be 1440p monitor. In my current build I'm working on, there's this:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MvfFnn

You think that'll be enough for 144hz?

Yeah easily. Does that $3K budget include the monitor or not include the monitor?

Monitor is being bought by someone else other then me, the 3k is for the build itself, bought by me.

 

[g-unit1111]

Monitor is being bought by someone else other then me, the 3k is for the build itself, bought by me.

OK that makes sense then. I'd stick with the dual 1080TIs if you're planning to use 144Hz.

 

[Shektron]

Okay, so you're going over-budget. Well, there's quite a lot you could downgrade there without losing too much performance. My recommendation would be to get a slightly cheaper Asus motherboard, or get a smaller HDD. You could try lowering the RAM to 16 GB, since that's all you need for gaming and streaming. 32 GB is more important for servers and such. Really, you can easily reduce the cost here.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZrZ9Z8

I just changed the motherboard here, and you can see the build is now in your budget. You can go a bit higher with the motherboard, this was just to show you.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kKfn4C

I'd recommend this build - under your budget, and has almost all the features still. I'm not even sure what is better in the Maximus IX Hero. Anyways, this build should be good. Will let you run at 1440p at 165 Hz no issues.

This really should be your choice here. Unless there's yet another plot twist to come...
Hope this helps. Cheers!

 

[g-unit1111]

Okay, so you're going over-budget. Well, there's quite a lot you could downgrade there without losing too much performance. My recommendation would be to get a slightly cheaper Asus motherboard, or get a smaller HDD. You could try lowering the RAM to 16 GB, since that's all you need for gaming and streaming. 32 GB is more important for servers and such. Really, you can easily reduce the cost here.

Incorrect. Sure servers require more RAM but to say you don't need 32GB is wrong. You can have 32GB or 64GB in a regular operating environment. You probably won't get much use out of it for gaming purposes but video and audio editing applications require way more than 16GB of RAM.

I just changed the motherboard here, and you can see the build is now in your budget. You can go a bit higher with the motherboard, this was just to show you.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kKfn4C

I'd recommend this build - under your budget, and has almost all the features still. I'm not even sure what is better in the Maximus IX Hero. Anyways, this build should be good. Will let you run at 1440p at 165 Hz no issues.

What do you need the case fans for? And why 120MM when most cases have 140MM mounts?

 

[Shektron]

Of course you can have it. You can also 'have' an i7 6950X, 4-way Titan Xp, and 128 GB RAM. It's possible, but do you need it for gaming? Probably not. Yes, 32 GB is a possibility, but it's not practical, is all I'm saying.

Also, the case fans were added by AnimeTech, though even I don't think you need so many - it comes with three excellent ones, and you don't need more.

 

[g-unit1111]

Of course you can have it. You can also 'have' an i7 6950X, 4-way Titan Xp, and 128 GB RAM. It's possible, but do you need it for gaming? Probably not. Yes, 32 GB is a possibility, but it's not practical, is all I'm saying.

Also, the case fans were added by AnimeTech, though even I don't think you need so many - it comes with three excellent ones, and you don't need more.

But to say that 32GB of RAM only works in a server environment is completely wrong, and if you want to give build advice, you should know this. If you want to run VR applications or anything like video, photo or audio editing you need all the RAM you can get. 16GB is the normal now, but having 32GB doesn't hurt.

 

[Shektron]

I said 'servers and such', which does not mean 'exclusively servers'. Okay, I was a bit vague there. I did want to include video editing, but then I thought it won't matter. Looks like I was wrong in thinking that.

 

[Shektron]

Having a 4K 200 Hz monitor doesn't hurt either. Doesn't mean you'll get it.

 

[AnimeTech]

Okay, so you're going over-budget. Well, there's quite a lot you could downgrade there without losing too much performance. My recommendation would be to get a slightly cheaper Asus motherboard, or get a smaller HDD. You could try lowering the RAM to 16 GB, since that's all you need for gaming and streaming. 32 GB is more important for servers and such. Really, you can easily reduce the cost here.

Incorrect. Sure servers require more RAM but to say you don't need 32GB is wrong. You can have 32GB or 64GB in a regular operating environment. You probably won't get much use out of it for gaming purposes but video and audio editing applications require way more than 16GB of RAM.

I just changed the motherboard here, and you can see the build is now in your budget. You can go a bit higher with the motherboard, this was just to show you.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kKfn4C

I'd recommend this build - under your budget, and has almost all the features still. I'm not even sure what is better in the Maximus IX Hero. Anyways, this build should be good. Will let you run at 1440p at 165 Hz no issues.

What do you need the case fans for? And why 120MM when most cases have 140MM mounts?

I was told by someone to replace the fans from the radiator with these.. But If I dont need them then I can take them out.

 

[AnimeTech]

Okay, so you're going over-budget. Well, there's quite a lot you could downgrade there without losing too much performance. My recommendation would be to get a slightly cheaper Asus motherboard, or get a smaller HDD. You could try lowering the RAM to 16 GB, since that's all you need for gaming and streaming. 32 GB is more important for servers and such. Really, you can easily reduce the cost here.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZrZ9Z8

I just changed the motherboard here, and you can see the build is now in your budget. You can go a bit higher with the motherboard, this was just to show you.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kKfn4C

I'd recommend this build - under your budget, and has almost all the features still. I'm not even sure what is better in the Maximus IX Hero. Anyways, this build should be good. Will let you run at 1440p at 165 Hz no issues.

This really should be your choice here. Unless there's yet another plot twist to come...
Hope this helps. Cheers!

Yeah kinda went over budget, wasn't expecting to do sli graphics cards. I didn't think I would need to. Was trying to keep the build at around 2500, but that didn't work xD So I had to go to my max of 3k.

 

[g-unit1111]

I was told by someone to replace the fans from the radiator with these.. But If I dont need them then I can take them out.

They're not really necessary, and most modern cases have 140mm mounts as opposed to 120mm mounts. Check the specs of the case you're buying to make sure of the fan mounts and fan sizes before you go spending $60 - $100+ on case fans.

 

[AnimeTech]

I was told by someone to replace the fans from the radiator with these.. But If I dont need them then I can take them out.

They're not really necessary, and most modern cases have 140mm mounts as opposed to 120mm mounts. Check the specs of the case you're buying to make sure of the fan mounts and fan sizes before you go spending $60 - $100+ on case fans.

Alright, and do I 100% need the sli graphics to do 1440p? Making sure before I decide 100% onto a build.

 

[g-unit1111]

Alright, and do I 100% need the sli graphics to do 1440p? Making sure before I decide 100% onto a build.

Depends on the refresh rate. 60hz you don't really need SLI, but for 144Hz and 165Hz you absolutely do need it.

 

[AnimeTech]

So two questions. If I ran single graphics card and took out sdd until I officially get my monitor, and just keep using my 1080p 60Hz monitor, would that be alright? And also, is there anything I need to know before putting everything together? Like once I first turn it on. Is there anything I need to know?

 

[g-unit1111]

So two questions. If I ran single graphics card and took out sdd until I officially get my monitor, and just keep using my 1080p 60Hz monitor, would that be alright? And also, is there anything I need to know before putting everything together? Like once I first turn it on. Is there anything I need to know?

Your SSD will not affect gaming performance - just load times. It has no effect on frame rates, so leave that in. I would just build the system as normal, you can run everything off your current monitor until you are ready to buy the new one.

 

[AnimeTech]

So two questions. If I ran single graphics card and took out sdd until I officially get my monitor, and just keep using my 1080p 60Hz monitor, would that be alright? And also, is there anything I need to know before putting everything together? Like once I first turn it on. Is there anything I need to know?

Your SSD will not affect gaming performance - just load times. It has no effect on frame rates, so leave that in. I would just build the system as normal, you can run everything off your current monitor until you are ready to buy the new one.

Will a ryzen build do any good with 1440p gaming?