Need help building pc

[AnimeTech]

So I wanted to build a nice gaming pc that would last me a few years. I currently have an older PC that doesn't run many games anymore. And my monitor isn't much of anything either. I wanted to build a pc around the gigabyte 1080 ti aorus extreme edition, and possibly a Gigabyte - GA-Z270X-Gaming 9 EATX LGA1151 Motherboard, but as I've never really built a pc before, and I don't exactly know what the best parts would be, I don't really know what to use. I want to keep the pc itself under 3000$, and monitor can be any price. Other accessories like keyboards, mouses, headphones, etc that you think should be added to the build, doesn't have to count towards the price of the build itself. Any help is welcome!!! - Update : I forgot to mention that I would like to use a be quiet case, but it doesn't have to be. I just want a quiet build.

 

[g-unit1111]

Will a ryzen build do any good with 1440p gaming?

For pure gaming, the 7700K is the superior choice for now. The Ryzen performs on par with most titles, but the 7700K is still a superior gaming CPU.

 

[AnimeTech]

Will a ryzen build do any good with 1440p gaming?

For pure gaming, the 7700K is the superior choice for now. The Ryzen performs on par with most titles, but the 7700K is still a superior gaming CPU.

Alright, I'll stick with i7 then. Thanks for your help!

 

[AnimeTech]

Will a ryzen build do any good with 1440p gaming?

For pure gaming, the 7700K is the superior choice for now. The Ryzen performs on par with most titles, but the 7700K is still a superior gaming CPU.

One last question, will the fractal design liquid cooler be alright?

 

[Lehan123456789]

Will a ryzen build do any good with 1440p gaming?

For pure gaming, the 7700K is the superior choice for now. The Ryzen performs on par with most titles, but the 7700K is still a superior gaming CPU.

Alright, I'll stick with i7 then. Thanks for your help!

However if you are doing any kind of video/photo editing, Ryzen is better. I personally think Ryzen is the best balance (also keep in mind that going into the future games will use more and more cores. But its up to you, and the bottom line is this: Ryzen is superior for content creation, i7's are slightly superior for gaming, however this means that right now, i7's should be used on high refresh rate monitors.

Hopefully that helps!

BTW I am just talking about consumer, not enthusiast (X99/threadripper) platforms

 

[AnimeTech]

Will a ryzen build do any good with 1440p gaming?

For pure gaming, the 7700K is the superior choice for now. The Ryzen performs on par with most titles, but the 7700K is still a superior gaming CPU.

Alright, I'll stick with i7 then. Thanks for your help!

However if you are doing any kind of video/photo editing, Ryzen is better. I personally think Ryzen is the best balance (also keep in mind that going into the future games will use more and more cores. But its up to you, and the bottom line is this: Ryzen is superior for content creation, i7's are slightly superior for gaming, however this means that right now, i7's should be used on high refresh rate monitors.

Hopefully that helps!

BTW I am just talking about consumer, not enthusiast (X99/threadripper) platforms

If I had to use a ryzen processor, and mobo to go with it, to keep the build in my price range, what would you suggest? Also, should I use the fractal design cpu cooler? Or can you suggest another one that would fit in the case, and fit my budget,

 

[AnimeTech]

Will a ryzen build do any good with 1440p gaming?

For pure gaming, the 7700K is the superior choice for now. The Ryzen performs on par with most titles, but the 7700K is still a superior gaming CPU.

Alright, I'll stick with i7 then. Thanks for your help!

However if you are doing any kind of video/photo editing, Ryzen is better. I personally think Ryzen is the best balance (also keep in mind that going into the future games will use more and more cores. But its up to you, and the bottom line is this: Ryzen is superior for content creation, i7's are slightly superior for gaming, however this means that right now, i7's should be used on high refresh rate monitors.

Hopefully that helps!

BTW I am just talking about consumer, not enthusiast (X99/threadripper) platforms

If I had to use a ryzen processor, and mobo to go with it, to keep the build in my price range, what would you suggest? Also, should I use the fractal design cpu cooler? Or can you suggest another one that would fit in the case, and fit my budget,

 

[g-unit1111]

One last question, will the fractal design liquid cooler be alright?

Get an air cooler like a Noctua, Phanteks or Cryorig, they're better than that choice.

However if you are doing any kind of video/photo editing, Ryzen is better. I personally think Ryzen is the best balance (also keep in mind that going into the future games will use more and more cores. But its up to you, and the bottom line is this: Ryzen is superior for content creation, i7's are slightly superior for gaming, however this means that right now, i7's should be used on high refresh rate monitors.

You can use Intel i7 for content creation, and the i7s were always the best choice for that before Ryzen came along. Games still don't use as many cores as you think they do, and they still won't even a few years from now. I wouldn't get anything higher than 8 cores now for every day usage.

 

[AnimeTech]

One last question, will the fractal design liquid cooler be alright?

Get an air cooler like a Noctua, Phanteks or Cryorig, they're better than that choice.

However if you are doing any kind of video/photo editing, Ryzen is better. I personally think Ryzen is the best balance (also keep in mind that going into the future games will use more and more cores. But its up to you, and the bottom line is this: Ryzen is superior for content creation, i7's are slightly superior for gaming, however this means that right now, i7's should be used on high refresh rate monitors.

You can use Intel i7 for content creation, and the i7s were always the best choice for that before Ryzen came along. Games still don't use as many cores as you think they do, and they still won't even a few years from now. I wouldn't get anything higher than 8 cores now for every day usage.

you have any ideas of a liquid cooler that would be same size?

 

[g-unit1111]

you have any ideas of a liquid cooler that would be same size?

I'd personally stick with air cooling, but if you want to go liquid, I'd suggest the Cryorig A80: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2z7CmG/cryorig-cpu-cooler-a80

 

[AnimeTech]

you have any ideas of a liquid cooler that would be same size?

I'd personally stick with air cooling, but if you want to go liquid, I'd suggest the Cryorig A80: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2z7CmG/cryorig-cpu-cooler-a80

I was gonna do air cooling, but I'm not really good with the part picking, and I wanted to make sure that I have enough room in the case, aha.

 

[g-unit1111]

you have any ideas of a liquid cooler that would be same size?

I'd personally stick with air cooling, but if you want to go liquid, I'd suggest the Cryorig A80: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2z7CmG/cryorig-cpu-cooler-a80

I was gonna do air cooling, but I'm not really good with the part picking, and I wanted to make sure that I have enough room in the case, aha.

Any full size ATX tower or mid tower will have plenty of room for large coolers. Even the D14.

 

[AnimeTech]

you have any ideas of a liquid cooler that would be same size?

I'd personally stick with air cooling, but if you want to go liquid, I'd suggest the Cryorig A80: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2z7CmG/cryorig-cpu-cooler-a80

I was gonna do air cooling, but I'm not really good with the part picking, and I wanted to make sure that I have enough room in the case, aha.

Any full size ATX tower or mid tower will have plenty of room for large coolers. Even the D14.

so with my build, would it be a good idea to use noctua dh15? Idk the good air coolers to use, haha

 

[Shektron]

Why aren't you doing liquid cooling? I don't see the problem. The S36 is one of the biggest liquid coolers, and one of the expensive ones - if it's over-budget, just get a smaller liquid cooler, like the Corsair H100i v2. g-unit, what's the problem with liquid cooling? It's such a high-end system, liquid cooling would really be my preference, and should be yours as well. If you don't want a big one like the S36, just get a smaller one, like Corsair H100i v2, or, like g-unit said, the Cryorig A80.

Also, don't go with Ryzen. Considering you'll be playing at 165 Hz, the 7700K is a better choice. Plus, with some nice liquid cooling, you can do some nice overclocking as well with that 7700K.

Before building your PC, do a bread-board, just in case some part isn't working. Bread-boarding basically means you place your motherboard on the box it arrived in, connect all the essentials, and try to turn it on with a display attached. If you see any errors, you'll know you've got a bad part, and won't have to go through the pain of disassembling the whole PC again to find out what's wrong. While bread-boarding, it's somewhat easy to add/remove things, so you can diagnose problems, if there are any. Do note that you'll need additional thermal paste for bread-boarding, since you can only use one application of thermal paste once. Once you can confirm everything's fine, you'll need to re-apply thermal paste on the cooler, so you'll need an extra tube.

Other than, don't forget to 'discharge' yourself, by touching anything metal that's connected to the ground. Or wear an anti-static band or something.

Back to the parts, get the 7700K, get a nice liquid cooler, and the rest remains the same. Oh and yes, you can avoid SLI when playing at 1080p, won't need two for that. Once you get the new monitor, throw in the second one. Also, what SLI bridge are you planning to use?

 

[AnimeTech]

Why aren't you doing liquid cooling? I don't see the problem. The S36 is one of the biggest liquid coolers, and one of the expensive ones - if it's over-budget, just get a smaller liquid cooler, like the Corsair H100i v2. g-unit, what's the problem with liquid cooling? It's such a high-end system, liquid cooling would really be my preference, and should be yours as well. If you don't want a big one like the S36, just get a smaller one, like Corsair H100i v2, or, like g-unit said, the Cryorig A80.

Also, don't go with Ryzen. Considering you'll be playing at 165 Hz, the 7700K is a better choice. Plus, with some nice liquid cooling, you can do some nice overclocking as well with that 7700K.

Before building your PC, do a bread-board, just in case some part isn't working. Bread-boarding basically means you place your motherboard on the box it arrived in, connect all the essentials, and try to turn it on with a display attached. If you see any errors, you'll know you've got a bad part, and won't have to go through the pain of disassembling the whole PC again to find out what's wrong. While bread-boarding, it's somewhat easy to add/remove things, so you can diagnose problems, if there are any. Do note that you'll need additional thermal paste for bread-boarding, since you can only use one application of thermal paste once. Once you can confirm everything's fine, you'll need to re-apply thermal paste on the cooler, so you'll need an extra tube.

Other than, don't forget to 'discharge' yourself, by touching anything metal that's connected to the ground. Or wear an anti-static band or something.

Back to the parts, get the 7700K, get a nice liquid cooler, and the rest remains the same. Oh and yes, you can avoid SLI when playing at 1080p, won't need two for that. Once you get the new monitor, throw in the second one. Also, what SLI bridge are you planning to use?

I dont have a problem with the liquid cooler at all, except that I just don't want any leaking. So I also want to make sure I get the best possible liquid cooler, without going overboard on it. The only issue I have with the fractal design liquid cooler is the fact that it's new, and I don't know how good it'll be. And since I have no experience with using liquid coolers, I don't know which one would be best to get.

 

[Shektron]

There usually isn't leaking in AIO's, though it is possible. But if you handle it well and then leave it alone once it's installed, it won't just start leaking just like that. Also, the Corsair H100i v2 is a very good liquid cooler - it has been tried and tested by tons of reviewers as well as a lot of consumers, and most have verified it is a good cooler overall.

You really don't need to worry about leaking, especially when going with such a high-end cooler - it will have good quality tubes that won't cut easily. Your hesitation with the Fractal Design cooler is justified, and you don't need to go with it. The H100i will serve just as well for overclocking. Maybe not as well, but it'll be enough anyway.

Also, you didn't tell me what SLI bridge you'll be using. I think the motherboard might come with one, but don't quote me on that.

Get the Corsair H100i v2 - its reliable, good, and should fit your budget just fine. Also, I did read that if you experience a leak, Corsair replaces all the parts damaged by the leak. However, that will probably only be within the 5 year warranty, so take that into consideration.

https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/5jy3v2/what_are_the_odds_of_my_corsair_h100i_v2_leaking/

If you still feel uncomfortable about liquid cooling, get a high-end air cooler. I just read that the temperature difference between liquid and air is very little, only the noise is different between the two. However, tower coolers can be quite huge, so make sure your case can actually fit them. PCPartPicker will detect it if the cooler is bigger than the case can fit.

Hope this helps. Cheers!

 

[g-unit1111]

Why aren't you doing liquid cooling? I don't see the problem. The S36 is one of the biggest liquid coolers, and one of the expensive ones - if it's over-budget, just get a smaller liquid cooler, like the Corsair H100i v2. g-unit, what's the problem with liquid cooling? It's such a high-end system, liquid cooling would really be my preference, and should be yours as well. If you don't want a big one like the S36, just get a smaller one, like Corsair H100i v2, or, like g-unit said, the Cryorig A80.

There's more room for error with liquid coolers. Since they have more parts than air coolers do. And as far as overclocking goes, the performance level is about the same as you'd get with a dual tower air cooler. Air cooling is also cheaper than liquid cooling. The Cryorig A80 that I mentioned is $150, and the NZXT Kraken X62 is $170. The Noctua D15 is $87. So you're paying twice the amount for similar overclocking performance. They've got better in the last few years, sure, but they're still not perfect. There's really no such thing as a "perfect" air or liquid cooling situation, since on custom PCs, they're all unique. The Cryorig A80 is one of the best you can get currently, and the NZXT Kraken X62 is a huge improvement over the X61, but I personally would still go for the fail safe, but that is just me.

Also, you didn't tell me what SLI bridge you'll be using. I think the motherboard might come with one, but don't quote me on that.

Motherboards don't include SLI bridges anymore, as the 10XX series cards require HB (high bandwidth) bridges, and you have to buy those separately now.

 

[Shektron]

Oh. AnimeTech make sure you do get an SLI bridge as well - a high bandwidth one, to be precise. Without that your SLI wouldn't work.

 

[AnimeTech]

Oh. AnimeTech make sure you do get an SLI bridge as well - a high bandwidth one, to be precise. Without that your SLI wouldn't work.

yeah, i started looking up some last night, does it have to be same brand as the graphics card I got?

 

[Shektron]

Oh I don't think so. SLI Bridges are just connectors - all of them work with all the Graphics cards. No need for brand-specific ones - but make sure they're good quality, and also make sure they're long enough to actually reach both GPUs. You can do that by making sure that their length is at least as much as the gap between the two PCI-E slots on the motherboard - otherwise just get a long flexible one.

 

[g-unit1111]

Oh. AnimeTech make sure you do get an SLI bridge as well - a high bandwidth one, to be precise. Without that your SLI wouldn't work.

yeah, i started looking up some last night, does it have to be same brand as the graphics card I got?

You won't get the full functionality of it because some have RGB lighting that is associated to sync with the lighting on the GPU(s). You can but it wouldn't be advised.

 

[theonerm2]

I advise against sli. It doesn't work with most newer titles and most of the time it doesn't work when you really want it to work. That is when a game first launches. You're all excited about seeing those super duper frame rates when BAM! It just works with one card. Then someone finds a fix but it flickers or stutters a lot. I think sli is a waste of money. I've tried it. Also some games scale negatively with sli turned on. You best stick with 1 GTX 1080 ti or really you could get by with a GTX 1080 at your resolution of 1440p unless you need very high frame rates.

 

[Shektron]

I advise against sli. It doesn't work with most newer titles and most of the time it doesn't work when you really want it to work. That is when a game first launches. You're all excited about seeing those super duper frame rates when BAM! It just works with one card. Then someone finds a fix but it flickers or stutters a lot. I think sli is a waste of money. I've tried it. Also some games scale negatively with sli turned on. You best stick with 1 GTX 1080 ti or really you could get by with a GTX 1080 at your resolution of 1440p unless you need very high frame rates.

If you read more carefully, you'll see that he's planning on a 1440p 165 Hz monitor, so yes, he does indeed need 'very high frame rates'. I know SLI is really bad, but for 1440p@165 Hz, a single 1080 Ti wouldn't cut it. Now granted, you won't get 165 FPS even with two in most games, but at least those which do support it will be able to benefit from the expensive monitor.