[SOLVED] Need help deciding parts for a CPU upgrade.

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Ok, so I've decided I am in serious need of a CPU upgrade (my current CPU is an i5-4440) after purchasing ac odyssey over the steam summer sale and barely being able to get 30fps, while my CPU is at 100% usage and my GPU (a 1650 super) being at 30-40% usage at high graphics settings. I have two ideas for upgrades: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/h6WrXb and https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3xDJrr I have the money for the i510600kf my question is just is it worth the extra ~90$ or so for the z490 motherboard and a CPU cooler and will I be able to utilize the extra performance with the k variant over the regular i5 with my 1650 super? (also will the artic freezer 7x be enough to cool an i5 10600k?)
 
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The downside to the 10400f, in the B460 board, is being force to run your ram at 2666, which can hinder performance, significantly. The Z490 phantom is a terrible board, VRM wise. You could do a 10400f, and a different Z490 board, and a better quality PSU. The regular 10600k would be $24 more, and worth it, imo, if you can swing the extra cost. The cooler I picked can handle an R9 5900x, so no worries with a 10600k.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-10400F 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor ($154.00 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: Vetroo V5 52 CFM CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI Z490-A PRO ATX LGA1200 Motherboard ($179.99 @ Best Buy)
Memory: OLOy 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200...

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You include psu's, what psu do you use at the moment? =maker+model+wattage. The ones included aren't the best options.

The rest comes to what you want to spend and if overclocking is your goal. The 10400f will do already fine.
For PSU's I got this sketchy unpainted HP 460watt PSU I took from the computer I got the i5-4440 from. I guess my main question is will I be able to properly utilize the i5-10600k with a GTX 1650 super?
 

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Looking into what's required, your 460watt PSU can cover both of those just fine. However, looking at your part lists, it wouldn't be a bad idea to spend the little extra to get the cooler for your CPU. While you wouldn't absolutely need to upgrade the PSU, it isn't a bad idea to make sure everything runs smoothly over time. And as far as which CPU, the i5-10600KF would be better in your case over the i5-10600K. The only difference between them outside of price is the KF (being the cheaper option) has no Intel Graphics included, which is only needed when you don't have dedicated GPU, which you do with the GTX 1650 Super. With the motherboard, I do recommend the z490 board for better performance.
 

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The downside to the 10400f, in the B460 board, is being force to run your ram at 2666, which can hinder performance, significantly. The Z490 phantom is a terrible board, VRM wise. You could do a 10400f, and a different Z490 board, and a better quality PSU. The regular 10600k would be $24 more, and worth it, imo, if you can swing the extra cost. The cooler I picked can handle an R9 5900x, so no worries with a 10600k.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-10400F 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor ($154.00 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: Vetroo V5 52 CFM CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI Z490-A PRO ATX LGA1200 Motherboard ($179.99 @ Best Buy)
Memory: OLOy 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($72.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($67.98 @ Amazon)
Total: $504.95
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-06-29 14:07 EDT-0400
 
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Unpainted says little with oem pc's, would be nice to have a pic from the sticker, but it likely is old so good to upgrade.

If i'm not mistaken is the next psu a good offering if wanting to keep budget low,
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/q2...d-certified-atx-power-supply-600w-non-modular

think in the tierlist in tier B,
 
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The downside to the 10400f, in the B460 board, is being force to run your ram at 2666, which can hinder performance, significantly. The Z490 phantom is a terrible board, VRM wise. You could do a 10400f, and a different Z490 board, and a better quality PSU. The regular 10600k would be $24 more, and worth it, imo, if you can swing the extra cost. The cooler I picked can handle an R9 5900x, so no worries with a 10600k.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-10400F 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor ($154.00 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: Vetroo V5 52 CFM CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI Z490-A PRO ATX LGA1200 Motherboard ($179.99 @ Best Buy)
Memory: OLOy 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($72.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($67.98 @ Amazon)
Total: $504.95
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-06-29 14:07 EDT-0400
Thanks for the suggestions. The CPU cooler seems like a good option for me. My main question would still be if you think I would be too heavily GPU bound with a GTX1650super and an overclocked i5-10600kf, because if so I will go with the i5 10400f and a b460 board (I just don't feel like putting a locked chip on an overclocking board makes sense), but if not I will go with the i5 10600kf and a z490 board. (I would have to go with the 150$ z490 phantom, though, any higher is outside of my price range.
 
Thanks for the suggestions. The CPU cooler seems like a good option for me. My main question would still be if you think I would be too heavily GPU bound with a GTX1650super and an overclocked i5-10600kf, because if so I will go with the i5 10400f and a b460 board (I just don't feel like putting a locked chip on an overclocking board makes sense), but if not I will go with the i5 10600kf and a z490 board. (I would have to go with the 150$ z490 phantom, though, any higher is outside of my price range.
This set up will allow you to run that cpu with the power limits turned off in the bios. It's a round a bout way of OC those locked cpu's.

https://www.newegg.com/evga-550-b5-220-b5-0550-v1-550w/p/N82E16817438167
EVGA 550 B5, 80 Plus BRONZE 550W Modular Power Supply $57.00

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813144396
MSI MAG B560M BAZOOKA $139.99

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/intel-...ked-desktop-processor/6452218.p?skuId=6452218
Intel Core i5-11400 (6 cores/12 threads) $189.99

https://www.amazon.com/Gelid-Solutions-Phantom-Cooler-Case/dp/B076KYYSRW
Gelid Solutions Phantom CPU Cooler $36.99

https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-Ballistix-Desktop-Gaming-BL2K8G32C16U4B/dp/B083TRRT16/
Crucial Ballistix DDR4 3200MHz 16GB (8GBx2) CL16 $87.99

Total: $512

Review of that cpu. Look for Core i5 11400F + Opt on the benchmarks.

https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/intel-core-i5-11400f-processor-review,1.html

A better look at that board.

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/MAG-B560M-BAZOOKA
 
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logainofhades

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Thanks for the suggestions. The CPU cooler seems like a good option for me. My main question would still be if you think I would be too heavily GPU bound with a GTX1650super and an overclocked i5-10600kf, because if so I will go with the i5 10400f and a b460 board (I just don't feel like putting a locked chip on an overclocking board makes sense), but if not I will go with the i5 10600kf and a z490 board. (I would have to go with the 150$ z490 phantom, though, any higher is outside of my price range.

You do not want to go with B460. It limits your ram to 2666, which hurts performance. A Ryzen 3, 3300x can beat the 10400f, in gaming when the 10400f is forced to run at 2666, and the 3300x can run even common CL16 ddr4 3200. Either pay for Z490, or choose a B560 board that will allow you to run 3200 ram, with a 10th gen chip. You lose out on using one of your M.2 NVME, unless you use an 11th gen chip though.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-10400F 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor ($154.00 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: Vetroo V5 52 CFM CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock B560M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard ($112.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Silicon Power 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($73.97 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($69.98 @ Amazon)
Total: $440.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-06-29 23:00 EDT-0400