Question Need help for a new build

[Gorrath]

Hello,

My PC is now almost 12 years old. It's still working but I'd like to get a new one before it dies lol
I got great advice here when I bought it and it lasted me over 10 years so here I am again!

Approximate Purchase Date: Next few months. I could wait if there's some crazy new CPU generation or something like that coming soon.

Budget Range: Around 2500.00$ would be ideal but could go up to 3000.00$ for a nice build.

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Mainly gaming

Are you buying a monitor: Yes

Do you need to buy OS: Yes

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Anything in Canada

Location: Montreal, QC (Canada)

Parts Preferences: Never had anything else than Intel for CPU

Overclocking: No

SLI or Crossfire: No

Your Monitor Resolution: High enough so that the GPU isn't bottlenecked

Additional Comments: Are Alienware desktop worth the price? Was thinking of buying a prebuild desktop to make things easier. something like this:

Alienware R16 Gaming Desktop with Air Cooling & Liquid Cooling | Dell Canada

Shop the Alienware R16 Gaming Desktop featuring with the latest 12th/13th Gen Intel^® Core™ processors and NVIDIA^® GeForce RTX™ 40/AMD Radeon™ RX graphics.

www.dell.com

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: Having trouble running new games with my current PC

Thanks

Patrick

 

[Lutfij]

This is by no means set in stone;
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor ($249.00 @ Amazon Canada)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK500 ZERO DARK 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler ($40.62 @ Vuugo)
Motherboard: MSI MAG B650M MORTAR WIFI Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard ($244.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo RGB 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($289.97 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Solidigm P41 Plus 500 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($62.99 @ PC-Canada)
Storage: Solidigm P41 Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($184.99 @ PC-Canada)
Video Card: MSI VENTUS 3X OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB Video Card ($1129.00 @ Canada Computers)
Case: Deepcool CH370 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($64.99 @ Canada Computers)
Power Supply: MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($169.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Total: $2436.54
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-06-21 16:38 EDT-0400

but it should serve as a template. Smaller SSD for OS, launcher and apps. The larger drive is for your games library.

 

[Why_Me]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor ($485.50 @ Vuugo)
CPU Cooler: *Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($41.90 @ Amazon Canada)
Motherboard: *MSI B650 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard ($239.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: *TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($147.66 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: *TEAMGROUP MP44L 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($154.97 @ Newegg Canada)
Video Card: *Gigabyte EAGLE OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB Video Card ($1099.00 @ Canada Computers)
Case: *Montech AIR 903 BASE ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: *be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($134.99 @ Canada Computers)
Operating System: *Microsoft Windows 11 Home OEM - DVD 64-bit ($149.50 @ Vuugo)
Monitor: *MSI G272QPF E2 27.0" 2560 x 1440 180 Hz Monitor ($309.99 @ Canada Computers)
Total: $2853.49
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-06-21 19:07 EDT-0400

A better look at those components.

https://www.msi.com/Monitor/G272QPF-E2

https://www.montechpc.com/en/products_detail.php?nid=356

https://www.bequiet.com/en/powersupply/4162

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B650-GAMING-PLUS-WIFI

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d/20.html

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/thermalright-peerless-assassin-120-se

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-4070-ti-super-gaming-oc/31.html

 

[Why_Me]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i7-13700KF 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor ($417.98 @ Amazon Canada)
CPU Cooler: *Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($41.90 @ Amazon Canada)
Motherboard: *MSI Z790 GAMING PRO WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($239.99 @ Memory Express)
Memory: *TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($147.66 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: *TEAMGROUP MP44L 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($154.97 @ Newegg Canada)
Video Card: *Gigabyte EAGLE OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB Video Card ($1099.00 @ Canada Computers)
Case: *Montech AIR 903 BASE ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: *be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($134.99 @ Canada Computers)
Operating System: *Microsoft Windows 11 Home OEM - DVD 64-bit ($149.50 @ Vuugo)
Monitor: *MSI G272QPF E2 27.0" 2560 x 1440 180 Hz Monitor ($309.99 @ Canada Computers)
Total: $2785.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-06-21 20:08 EDT-0400

 

[35below0]

The prices will change in the next few months. So when you do decide to buy, come back for a sanity check. I'm sure this build will not be the ideal one in a couple of montns. It will need a few tweaks.

This is within budget, aiming at quality 1440p gaming. With a few options for higher quality components.
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-13600K 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor ($349.00 @ Amazon Canada)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15S 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler ($99.95 @ Amazon Canada)
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z790 EAGLE AX ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($254.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($144.97 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP44L 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($154.97 @ Newegg Canada)
Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 7900 GRE 16 GB Video Card ($769.00 @ Canada Computers)
Case: Montech AIR 903 BASE ATX Mid Tower Case ($94.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS GX-850 ATX 3.0 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($157.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 11 Home Retail - USB 64-bit ($172.99 @ PC-Canada)
Monitor: Gigabyte GS32QC SA 31.5" 2560 x 1440 170 Hz Curved Monitor ($315.30 @ Vuugo)
Total: $2514.14
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-06-21 21:25 EDT-0400


If you want a killer monitor, the AW2725DF is hard to beat. Does cost a lot though ($900-1000):
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product...725df-267-2560-x-1440-360-hz-monitor-aw2725df

A fancier case (FD Meshify 2):
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/zHdrxr/fractal-design-meshify-2-atx-mid-tower-case-fd-c-mes2a-03
The Montech is already good, but this is a nice upgrade.
The North is even nicer!
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/sHYmP6/fractal-design-north-atx-mid-tower-case-fd-c-nor1c-01

High end motherboard (Aorus Elite WiFi7 ~$350):
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product...-lga1700-motherboard-z790-aorus-elite-x-wifi7
This motherboard has a higher quality on board audio and a beefy 8+8, 90A VRM. That's useful for an i7 or i9 intel CPU and overclocking, but the overall increase in price is high for the performance gain.
It also supports faster DDR5 RAM and the faster WiFi 7.

If you opt for it, you pay a higher price and have a potentially longer lasting gaming PC. Quality of life-wise it's a good idea, but the 13600K + Eagle combo will only be marginally slower, at least for the next few years.
Is it worth it? If you don't mind the diminishing returns and can afford to stretch the budget then it's superior. Only problem is it's not THAT much superior. :/
- 13700K ~$450:
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product...13700k-34-ghz-16-core-processor-bx8071513700k


Lastly, there is a new generation of nvidia, AMD and Intel GPUs coming to market Christmas - Easter.
Doesn't really help you much; you could buy as cheap a GPU as possible while still getting some 1440p performance, so that you've still got a GPU budget for when the new ones to hit the shelves. But it's kind of a waste of money.
The 7900GRE is not expensive and it's perfect for 1440p, beaten only by the 4070 Ti Super.

If you want to go up to $3000, the motherboard and CPU upgrade is one possibility.
Trying to swing that Alienware QD-OLED monitor would be a pretty awesome, though it would go to $3100.
Gigabyte is alright for the money though:
https://www.tomshardware.com/monitors/gigabyte-gs32qc-qhd-curved-170-hz-gaming-monitor-review

GS32QC Gaming Monitor Specification | Monitor - GIGABYTE Global

Features Native 1500R, SS VA panel QHD, OC 170 Hz with 1ms Response Time AMD FreeSync Premium HDR ready GIGABYTE Classic Tactical Features Eyesafe 2.0 & Fl...

www.gigabyte.com

Maybe someone can recommend a similar monitor with a slightly lower price?