Question Need help searching for RAM for my build using 5800X3D ?

[KatIsYes]

So recently I decided to go all out upgrading my (pretty much) 9 year old PC. I already had an AM4 motherboard so to save money on that I got the 5800X3D, a 4090 on sale, and other stuff not quite as relevant to this post which were needed too.
All of which is working wonderfully so far but I still had things I wanted to upgrade to finalize and maximize my upgrades, like RAM. What caught my eye all the way back when I first started getting PC parts was the G.Skill TridentZ 2x32GB CL14 3200mhz set, notably due to the lower CAS latency combined with it being a sweet spot for speed at 3200mhz with me getting the 5800X3D.

The problem is that just as I finally got the money together, other stuff came up that I couldn't ignore and I just put it off as an "I can do that tomorrow"... then it sold out the very next day. It was in stock ever since at least September... and then that happens, so I am kind of lost on what to seek out at this point. It was really important to me to maximize what I get in any way possible (preferably as easily as possible). It stings more knowing that it will most likely not come back in stock due to it being a Samsung B-die set.

My questions for anyone reading: I was wondering if either
Question 1: Can I use 3600mhz CL16 RAM (or any alternative higher speed DDR4 RAM) at it's full rated XMP speed of 3600mhz CL16 without it lowering it to 3200mhz since that is what AMD's site says is max speed on the spec sheet?
or
Question 2: Is it possible I could get 3600mhz CL16 RAM (or alternative higher speed RAM), and then lower the speed down to 3200mhz and subsequently lower CAS latency to 14 etc? As based on what I have read that would be almost fairly equal exchange when looking at numbers. I am very much new to the concept of over/underclocking etc as I just never bothered before.

Is there any recommendations that can be made? Honestly any recommendations at all would be appreciated. I know aiming for this is reaching far for small gains but I want to try. Also any other over/underclocking advice is welcome too if you have anything other than RAM advice! (I'm sorry for being wordy!)

 

[kerberos_20]

that max supported ram speed on your CPU is for JEDEC clock, XMP does not have speced max support speed, AMD did advertise it as 3733MHz being the sweeet spot

 

[KatIsYes]

that max supported ram speed on your CPU is for JEDEC clock, XMP does not have speced max support speed, AMD did advertise it as 3733MHz being the sweeet spot

Thanks for the reply! So XMP doesn’t have a limit. Got it. So, in the end after doing personal research on the matter I ended up finding RAM which would be searchable by typing F4-3600C14D-32GTZNA, spec at 3600mhz 14-14-14-34 and it being 16x2/32GB. What would you think of that ?

Also extra question, what is JEDEC clock versus what you can do with XMP? In case searches online don’t quite give the info.

 

[kerberos_20]

Thanks for the reply! So XMP doesn’t have a limit. Got it. So, in the end after doing personal research on the matter I ended up finding RAM which would be searchable by typing F4-3600C14D-32GTZNA, spec at 3600mhz 14-14-14-34 and it being 16x2/32GB. What would you think of that ?

Also extra question, what is JEDEC clock versus what you can do with XMP? In case searches online don’t quite give the info.

Jedec is stock speed, say 2400 mhz with like CL20, xmp is overclock for beginners, one click overclock, no hassle
some XMP rated stick may work only on few mainboards...but 3600 cl14 is still fine for am4 platform

 

[Zerk2012]

Thanks for the reply! So XMP doesn’t have a limit. Got it. So, in the end after doing personal research on the matter I ended up finding RAM which would be searchable by typing F4-3600C14D-32GTZNA, spec at 3600mhz 14-14-14-34 and it being 16x2/32GB. What would you think of that ?

Also extra question, what is JEDEC clock versus what you can do with XMP? In case searches online don’t quite give the info.

Really unless your looking to upgrade to 32GB no reason to buy new memory from what you already have.

If your looking to get 32GB then 2X16GB set of 3600 with 16 cas will do fine.

No reason to over think it.

 

[KatIsYes]

Really unless your looking to upgrade to 32GB no reason to buy new memory from what you already have.

If your looking to get 32GB then 2X16GB set of 3600 with 16 cas will do fine.

No reason to over think it.

Having problems replying, saying my comment has "spam-like or inappropriate elements" when simply trying to reply to what you said.

 

[logainofhades]

The 5800x3d isn't as memory sensitive as other Ryzen chips, so it doesn't need overly expensive ram. I seriously doubt you would see a noticeable difference between DDR4 3200 CL16 and 3600 CL16.

 

[KatIsYes]

The 5800x3d isn't as memory sensitive as other Ryzen chips, so it doesn't need overly expensive ram. I seriously doubt you would see a noticeable difference between DDR4 3200 CL16 and 3600 CL16.

I have heard of that before yeah, but I kind of forgot about that until I put in orders.