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"Al Smith" <invalid@address.com> wrote in message
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>>>I wish I had your determination. I took a long look at Mandrake but
>>>> finally upgraded to Windows XP. I feel like such a Micro-slut. On the
>>>> plus side, I stuck with my oath to never pay Microsoft another dollar
>>>> as long as I draw breath. I haven't violated that oath in six years,
>>>> and counting.
>>
>>
>> So, you stole XP? If you haven't paid in six years, and XP hasn't been
>> out that long.....
>
> I looked at it this way. Microsoft pissed me off so royally, I vowed never
> to give them another dime. On the other hand, Microsoft was forcing me to
> upgrade by phasing out Windows 98 and phasing in Windows XP. I tested out
> Linux and found it wasn't ready for the desktop. What were my choices?

If you can live with stealing, then that's your choice. My suggestion is
that you talk to your mother and your children and explain to them that
stealing is OK if you don't like the person or company from whom you are
stealing. I think that would be a particularly powerful message for you to
impart on your children.

 

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"Mac Cool" <Mac@2cool.com> wrote in message
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> BobR:
>
>> Linux ain't the easiest to install
>
> I never had any problems installing it, it's getting it to work after you
> install it.

Odd. The few times I've installed linux, it's been easier to install AND
use than any version of windows, including windows XP. The only thing
that's stopping linux from dominating the OS market is Microsoft Office*.
The "compatible" programs for linux will never be compatible enough,
unfortunately. Yes, they can open and save files in Microsoft office
format. The problem is, you don't know UNTIL IT'S TOO LATE if anybody ELSE
can open those files. -Dave

*That, and games. But if most businesses switched to linux, you'd see more
games ported to linux soon enough.

 

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Dave C.:

> Odd. The few times I've installed linux, it's been easier to install
> AND use than any version of windows, including windows XP.

You're a Linux phenom.
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"Mac Cool" <Mac@2cool.com> wrote in message
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> Dave C.:
>
>> Odd. The few times I've installed linux, it's been easier to install
>> AND use than any version of windows, including windows XP.
>
> You're a Linux phenom.

Translation: I can put the disc in the drive. -Dave

 

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IsaacKuo wrote in message
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>
>For me, Knoppix is worth if for QTParted alone. It's a Partition
>Magic clone. I have long simply lived without a decent partitioning
>utility because I neither wanted to spend the money on Partition
>Magic nor did I want to pirate it.

When I first got my Debian CDs, I had to use Parted(command-line) before I
could do anything. I was so impressed, I will never use ms fdisk if I have a
choice(parted, cfdisk, etc.)!

>
>I would heartily recommend dual booting Windows/Linux for anyone
>who is currently used to Windows but who also likes to tinker with
>his computer. You literally have nothing to lose, and it's fun to
>play around with.

The real mind-blower for me was the fact you can change the kernel to what
you want.
I took out things I knew this machine would never need, 'moduled' the things
I thought I may need in the future, and 'built-in' the things I do need.
Stock kernel booted in about 40 seconds, my kernel boots in about 10 seconds
and has never crashed (knock on wood.).

Then I have another partition on another drive (hdb) with Debian
Sid(unstable) installed, which runs much more stable than the Woody(release)
install.
My lilo-conf is a real mess, but, it all works, {linux, linux-old, linuxSid,
win98[1]}.

> The biggest difference in the Linux experience...
<snip>
>..... Once you get used to it, though, it's hard to go back to
>Windows.
>Isaac Kuo

I go back, and forth. I'm learning/working in C++ with wxWidgets, and want
to be sure my programs compile/run in Linux and windows.

Well, enough babble, I think I'll fire up an IDE somewhere and tinker!

[1] - I successfully installed win95b on this Pentium 4, but it wouldn't
run, wonder why (duh! <G>). I won't go winXP!!
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kony:

> Even so, you just gave them justification...

Just a note, the only reason I consider 95/98 defective is because of
the inherent memory leak that required the system to be rebooted
occasionally.

> If the prior version is defective, they're entitled to money
> back or a working replacement. User can't steal what they
> paid for right?

Opinion doesn't justify theft even if it's my opinion

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On 22 Jan 2005 04:18:48 GMT, Mac Cool <Mac@2cool.com> wrote:

>kony:
>
>> Even so, you just gave them justification...
>
>Just a note, the only reason I consider 95/98 defective is because of
>the inherent memory leak that required the system to be rebooted
>occasionally.
>
>> If the prior version is defective, they're entitled to money
>> back or a working replacement. User can't steal what they
>> paid for right?
>
>Opinion doesn't justify theft even if it's my opinion

So if I offer to sell you a tomato, but mail you an apple...
if you come over and pick a tomato off my vine did you steal
it?

 

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In article <a%2Id.215225$Np3.9053295@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca>, Al Smith <invalid@address.com> wrote:
>>>I wish I had your determination. I took a long look at Mandrake but
>>>> finally upgraded to Windows XP. I feel like such a Micro-slut. On the plus
>>>> side, I stuck with my oath to never pay Microsoft another dollar as long
>>>> as I draw breath. I haven't violated that oath in six years, and counting.
>>
>> So, you stole XP? If you haven't paid in six years, and XP hasn't been out
>> that long.....
>
>I looked at it this way. Microsoft pissed me off so royally, I
>vowed never to give them another dime. On the other hand,
>Microsoft was forcing me to upgrade by phasing out Windows 98 and
>phasing in Windows XP. I tested out Linux and found it wasn't
>ready for the desktop. What were my choices?

Maybe sacrifice your prejudices rather than your principles?



Cheers, Phred.

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kony wrote:
> On 22 Jan 2005 04:18:48 GMT, Mac Cool <Mac@2cool.com> wrote:
> >Opinion doesn't justify theft even if it's my opinion
>
> So if I offer to sell you a tomato, but mail you an apple...
> if you come over and pick a tomato off my vine did you steal
> it?

Yes.

Arguably you've also stolen his money, but two wrongs don't make a
right.

- Brooks


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On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 12:34:11 -0800, Brooks Moses
<bmoses-nospam@cits1.stanford.edu> wrote:

>kony wrote:
>> On 22 Jan 2005 04:18:48 GMT, Mac Cool <Mac@2cool.com> wrote:
>> >Opinion doesn't justify theft even if it's my opinion
>>
>> So if I offer to sell you a tomato, but mail you an apple...
>> if you come over and pick a tomato off my vine did you steal
>> it?
>
>Yes.

Nope.

Once I have accepted payment he didn't.
>
>Arguably you've also stolen his money, but two wrongs don't make a
>right.

Arguably I've committed fraud, but there aren't TWO wrongs.

Problem is, this applies to the concept of stealing but not
directly to windows. Since MS never patched windows, one
cannot "take" the tomato, and grabs a pear instead... that
would be stealing, except that if I'd defrauded millions of
people with my apple scheme, I'd be in prison already.
There's the double-standard, MS appears to be above the law.