Question Need some upgrade advice and input...

[drjohnnyfever]

The PC I use for everyday surfing, music and tv streaming, and some server-ish sharing of music and movies with the kids and their devices - my setup is thus:

MOBO: ASUS Prime X570 Pro
CPU: Ryzen 5 3600
GPU: SRhonyra Radeon RX 580 8GB GDDR5
PSU: Seasonic GM-550
Memory: CORSAIR Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR4 3200 X2 for 32GB RAM
Sound: Creative Sound BlasterX AE-5 Plus Pure Edition SABRE32 Ultra-Class 32-bit/384kHz PCI-e Gaming Sound Card and DAC

My son wants me to play RDR 1 and 2 with him. He wants to teach me how to play as I taught him how to play MegaMan 2 and 3 when he was 4, 10 years ago. I imagine he'll want me in Fortnite too.

So I'm thinking I need to upgrade my regular rig a little while still letting it do everything I presently use it for. With just some initial looking, the 5th gen Ryzens are good bargains. The Ryzen 9 5900X is only $234 on Amazon right now and RTX 3060's are $299 and lower. So for around $500-550, I think I'd have a super upgrade. Altho, if I do both of these, I figure I'm in for a bigger PSU too, so another $100 easy for that.

I'm not opposed to using a Radeon GPU's, but I'm more familiar with the Nvidia models. I'm also not opposed to spending less than $500 if there are other recommendations re CPU and GPU combinations. I only highlighted the Ryzen 5 5900X because I happened to see it and was looking at top tier prices out of curiosity. I am limited by having the AM4 socket.

Any and all suggestions and advice is appreciated.

 

[Why_Me]

The 5600 is a noticeable upgrade from your current cpu.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor ($114.81 @ Amazon)
Video Card: *MSI GeForce RTX 3060 Ventus 2X 12G GeForce RTX 3060 12GB 12 GB Video Card ($259.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $374.79
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-09-14 17:35 EDT-0400
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *AMD Ryzen 7 5700X 3.4 GHz 8-Core Processor ($161.44 @ MemoryC)
Total: $161.44
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-09-14 17:42 EDT-0400

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D 3 GHz 8-Core Processor ($196.00 @ Amazon)
Total: $196.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-09-14 17:37 EDT-0400

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/amd-ryzen-7-5700x3d-cpu-review

 

[drjohnnyfever]

Is there a school of thought with being a little more aggressive in the CPU or GPU in an upgrade like I'm seeking? Or is it a wash? I guess what I'm getting at is this:

If I have about $500 to spend, am I going to see any difference - a novice like me in this kind of gaming - in a CPU combo of a Ryzen 5 5600, 5600X or Ryzen 7 5700 with a RTX 3060 or Radeon 5600? Does it make sense to devote a little more to one area or the other?

 

[Why_Me]

Is there a school of thought with being a little more aggressive in the CPU or GPU in an upgrade like I'm seeking? Or is it a wash? I guess what I'm getting at is this:

If I have about $500 to spend, am I going to see any difference - a novice like me in this kind of gaming - in a CPU combo of a Ryzen 5 5600, 5600X or Ryzen 7 5700 with a RTX 3060 or Radeon 5600? Does it make sense to devote a little more to one area or the other?

Forget the 5600X. The 5600 (non X) made that cpu obsolete. It comes down to those three cpu's imo and that's a tough call. Honestly you can't go wrong with any of those three choices.

 

[drjohnnyfever]

Ok, so say I go with either the 5600 or level up to the 5700, because I think the value is in those CPU's, am I good or plus with either of the two GPU's - RTX 3060 or the Radeon 5600 series. Do I get any real benefit from overspending on the GPU with either of those CPU's, if they are the decision, CPU-wise?

BTW, thanks for carrying on this conversation. I value the talk and perspective.

 

[Flayed]

If you only have $500 to improve gaming performance I would spend it on a new GPU. Don't forget those CPU fps charts are using an RTX 3090 once you halve the GPU performance the gains from a faster CPU drop dramatically.

 

[drjohnnyfever]

If you only have $500 to improve gaming performance I would spend it on a new GPU. Don't forget those CPU fps charts are using an RTX 3090 once you halve the GPU performance the gains from a faster CPU drop dramatically.

Yeah, I noticed that, but I took it as a benchmark. I guess your opinion is that if I'm going to meaningfully overspend, I should do it on a GPU? I was sort of wandering that way in my thought process. If I choose the Ryzen 5 5600 then, is there benefit to going over the $260 for the RTX 4060 @Why_Me suggested above? Or do I get greater benefit with that GPU and the Ryzen 7 5700?

 

[Flayed]

Yeah, I noticed that, but I took it as a benchmark. I guess your opinion is that if I'm going to meaningfully overspend, I should do it on a GPU? I was sort of wandering that way in my thought process. If I choose the Ryzen 5 5600 then, is there benefit to going over the $260 for the RTX 4060 @Why_Me suggested above? Or do I get greater benefit with that GPU and the Ryzen 7 5700?

The gaming performance difference between a Ryzen 5 5600 and a Ryzen 7 5700 is minimal. I wouldn't bother with a CPU upgrade as your current 3600 is perfectly capable of driving an RTX 4060.

I would go for either an RTX 4060ti or an RX 7700XT and call it a day.

 

[ClapTrapper]

I have a 3060 and RDR2 runs great. I don't know about the Megaman game, but with a Ryzen 7 5800x.
Don't get bogged down in benchmarks, it is the real world world experience that counts. Sorry I can't help you with the cpu, but with my setup and can tell you the 3060 will run RDR 2 great.
Oh and and it does the non-gamming stuff great too (in my case, video editing,streaming,and photoshop run smooth).