NEW BUILD does it all work?

truesony · Oct 27, 2010

mgrzTX · Oct 27, 2010

truesony :

Your build is a little odd to me. Consider filling this out to give people a better idea of what your looking for.

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/261222-31-build-advice

But, any particular reason you want to spend 1200$ on your GPU?

truesony · Oct 27, 2010

i just want a good gaming pc, the graphics card is top of the line and i really don't know if it will be better to just get this

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102887&cm_re=5970-_-14-102-887-_-Product

or maybe TWO 6870's?

mgrzTX · Oct 27, 2010

How many monitors do you have and what are there resolutions? If your just using say 1 monitor w/ a resolution of 1920x1080 both of those cards are definitely overkill right now.

truesony · Oct 27, 2010

sorry for the lack of info i dont know what is wrong with me right now. i want to use 3 monitors at the highest possible resolution. these are the 3.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824160050

it is a gaming pc.

tecmo34 · Oct 27, 2010

Everything looked good till I saw $1,000 GPU & a Kingwin PSU. You lost me there!

Couple of recommendations:
1) Drop the ATI 5970 & go with two XFX 5870 for better performance for $300 cheaper.

2) Stick with the Crosshair IV - Great Board

3) Pick-up a SSD with the savings on the 5970: Crucial RealSSD C300

4)Case: I would go with the Cooler Master HAF 922 but it is a personnel preference on what you like.

5) PSU:Corsair CMPSU-850HX - Plenty of power for your system and a great overall PSU

mortonww · Oct 27, 2010

I added up your component prices to get a budget of around $2200? Do you want to stay near this budget?

You don't want an AMD build at this price. Intel will perform better and you can afford it, so don't downgrade if you don't have to. This is what you might consider for $1500 dollars (add your own embellishments).

CPU: Intel Core i7 950 ($300)
RAM: G.SKILL Pi Series 6 GB, 1600 MHz, CAS 7, 1.5 V ($155)
MOBO: ASUS Sabertooth X58 ($200)
HDD: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1 TB ($75)
GPU: 2 x gtx 470 ($520 - $600 for factory overclocked ones)
CASE: HAF 922 ($90), CM690II Advanced ($80)
PSU: Corsair 950TX ($120)
OPTICAL: Doesn't matter ($20)

TOTAL: $1480 with the $520 GTX 470's and the HAF 922.

You could then think about adding an SSD, moving to overclocked 470's, etc.

This build will outperform your Phenom II X6 + HD 5970 rig every single time.

mgrzTX · Oct 27, 2010

I was gonna say to drop the 5970 and go w/ a SSD plus a different GPU(s) but I would get spend more money on the monitors and less on the GPU. I like moronwws build, but make sure you consider everything.

If you want to overclock, consider a board w/ more features than the Sabertooth. Maybe take a look at 2x 6870s in xfire. Maybe you want a modular PSU, I would stick w/ Corsair however.

W/ your budget though. Stick w/ Intel, spend half as much on your GPU(s) for better performance, and get better monitors. I would recommend reading through some of the other build posts to get an idea of what some of the hotter and better components are.

truesony · Oct 27, 2010

what about the gtx 480?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130551&cm_re=geforce_gtx480-_-14-130-551-_-Product

and can you tell me why your build is better...?

mortonww · Oct 27, 2010

truesony :

Your AMD Phenom II x6 is not as good a gaming processor as the i7 950. It will bottleneck your 5970 (not by much). A 5970 paired with a Phenom II x4 generally performs better as well. I don't know why this is. Perhaps something to do with the amount of cache per core, but that's just something I heard, I really don't know.

Here are benchmark comparisons of the gtx 470 sli configuration pitted against a single HD 5970, though:

http://techreport.com/articles.x/19404/11

In general, they outperform the 5970 and are cheaper. You can google more benchmarks, though.

And the gtx 480s are even faster. If you feel like that's something you want, go for it. The 950TX should power those too.

truesony · Oct 27, 2010

ok here is my new build.

CPU: Intel Core i7 950
RAM: G.SKILL Pi Series 6 GB X2
MOBO: ASUS Sabertooth X58
HDD: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1 TB
GPU: 2 x gtx 480
CASE: CM haf 932
PSU: Corsair 950TX
and some cheaper SSD

i feel like i might need a bigger PSU. just a last minute question if i get the two GTX 480's will i be able to use 3 monitors? using SLI?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130551

tecmo34 · Oct 27, 2010

Yes... SLI will handle three monitors

tecmo34 · Oct 27, 2010

GPU Comparison: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/159?vs=165

CPU Comparison: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/146?vs=100

Additional info to backup your revised build decision...

truesony · Oct 27, 2010

thank you. is motherboard top notch or is there a better one?

tecmo34 · Oct 27, 2010

SABERTOOTH is good but I find the ASUS P6X58D-E to be slightly better. If you want to spend more, I think the EVGA X58 FTW3 board is the better board.

The best of all is the EVGA Classified 3 IMO... Not counting the granddaddy of them all EVGA Classfied SR2

truesony · Oct 27, 2010

Best answer selected by truesony.

mgrzTX · Oct 27, 2010

I'm not the best at deciphering power consumption. But your PSU should handle your system just fine unless your really looking to push your GPU and CPU to the limit all at the same time. Even then the it's a close. Once again, some one can correct me if I'm wrong, but even at a full load the SLI 480s will worse case take 600 W, say~300 W from the CPU. Which leaves 50W for everything else, which is probably cutting it a little close. But as I said that's the absolute most and likely won't happen. Also to ease your mind, Corsairs PSUs (unlike other brands) always are able to handles more than their rated for. So, really the PSU should be more than enough.

mortonww · Oct 27, 2010

I think that's a bit of a harsh estimate for the CPU power consumption. stock, they run at a max of 125 W. I used a PSU calculator to see what kind of wattage an overclocked i7 950 (to 3.5 GHz) would pull at 1.45 vcore and it gave me 167 Watts.

Here are power consumption charts for GTX 480 SLI

http://www.anandtech.com/show/2977/nvidia-s-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-6-months-late-was-it-worth-the-wait-/19

Using Furmark, they get total system usage up to 851 Watts. This is with an i7 920 overclocked to 3.33 GHz.

If you wanted to upgrade PSUs to a Corsair HX1000 or AX1200, no one could fault you.

mgrzTX · Oct 27, 2010

mortonww :

Thanks for the info. I guess I over estimated the CPU and underestimated the GPUs. Just another note, both of those PSUs are modular which is always nice.

JackNaylorPE · Oct 27, 2010

I like Mort's build except:

MoBo - I'd upgrade to the ASUS P6X58D-E's 3 PCI-2.0 GFX slots and PCI Express x16 alot as well as extra PCI Slot

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131641

Consider CAS 6 Memory. For example, for $174 you can get a $30 off Fallout Vegas game which, if that appeals to you puts net cost at $144.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226172

Consider Case Combos such as :

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.491512

mortonww · Oct 27, 2010

Here's a slightly more expensive ($30) case combo that includes a 1000 Watt power supply that is also modular like the HX 1000.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.491499

mgrzTX · Oct 27, 2010

JackNaylorPE :

That's a good deal on that Ram, but man is that stuff ugly! Haha! :ouch:

truesony · Oct 28, 2010

HERE IT IS!!!

HDD http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185

GPU X2 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130551

RAM X2 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231335

MOBO http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813188069

CPU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115211

SSD http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227608

Case and PSU http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.491499

DOES EVERYTHING WORK TOGETHER?!?!?!?

oh and thermal compound for cpu

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835100007

if you know of a better mobo or CPU within 100 dollars plus or minus please post and give reasons why it is better.

thank you all for the help and i will definitely come back if i have problems...

mgrzTX · Oct 28, 2010

Looks good to me. That's one heck of a sweet rig!!! About those monitors though...

truesony · Oct 28, 2010

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824160050 X3

Is 20" a good size for me for a gaming pc i will be getting 3 IF THERE IS A BIGGER BETTER monitor that is less then 150$ let me know, i will get 3 of them

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