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phaederus

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hi everyone

i have just built a new PC using the components listed below.

it wont boot up. when i power up my monitors flicker ith a no signal banner and then go dead, the machine makes a couple of clicking noises (seems to be the HD's). it tries to initialise the dvd, in that the green light on the dvd comes on and flickers a bit and then makes a sort of slow ticking sound. nothing seems to happen after this. i have left it on for a couple of minutes, but nothing. my manual says that the bios and power up tests should start within 30secs of booting up, and that as the tests are being done the mobo will beep

i have been through all of the connections and double checked them and everything seems ok. i have tried taking out the ram boards, unpluging the sata2 hds, and even unplugging the dvd. unplugging everything. using a ide HD.

any ideas?


Motherboard
Model : K8N-E Deluxe

[VGA Card Specification]
Vendor : HIGHTECH
Model : ATI Radeon 9800Pro 128MB AGP
Chipset : Radeon 9800Pro

[CPU Specification]
Vendor : AMD
Type : Athlon 64 S754
Speed : 3400[plus] 512Kb

[Memory Specification]
Vendor : Crucial
Model : 184pin DIMM PC3200 DDRRAM NP Unbuffered CL3.0
Capacity : 1 GB * 3

[HDD Specification]
Vendor : seagate
Model : sata baraccuda
Capacity : 160GB * 2

*Operating System : Windows XP Pro


thanks in advance for any suggestions
 
Read the motherboard faq. It has some answer and check up to perform on your system to diagnose the problem.

Try them and come back if you have any question

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FAQs are cool.

12V connector hooked up?
Power connector on VGA hooked up?
Is your power supply adequate?

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What brand name is the psu? Cheapies are not allowed!!

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A "basic boot" may be in order. Take the mobo out of the case, along with the psu. Put a system speaker on the mobo, along with the cpu, hsf, a single stick of ram (in the slot closest to the chip), and the graphics card. Set them up on an insulated spot, such as a plastic cutting board, or a piece of wood. Put a jumper on where the power switch connects. Attach the psu, and turn it on. Count to three, and pull the jumper off. Let us know what happens.
 
i dont mean to be rude here, or seem ungrateful for all the advice being shared but that sounds like a remarkably bad idea🙂

what is this the theory behind this?

It strikes me as a good way to fry something, or electrocute oneself:-(

i would just like to say thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
 
I don't mean to be rude back, but if you read the FAQs, or trey searching these boards, you will find dozens of problems <b><i>EXACTLY</b></i> like yours.

Your problem sounds like a misplaced standoff on the motherboard, and the best way to check is to do exactly as suggested. Of course, if you don't want to, you can always take it to a local computer shop and pay some guy in the back $50 an hour to do the same thing. :wink:

Seeing as how you asked for our expert opinions, thats exactly what you got. :smile:


Systems Running F@H:
AMD: [A64 3200+] [XP2800+ x2] [XP2400+]
Intel: [P4 2.8 x4] [P4 2.0] [P4 1.8] [P4 1.7] [P4 1.6 x2] [P4 1.4M] [Xeon 1.0] [Cel 1.0] [P3 ??]
 
i have searched the faqs at asus, the mobo manufacturer, and there is one case on there for this exact board. the proposed solution is to clear the bios. this can be done using a jumper on the board. and that is fine.

i remain sceptical about putting a jumper on where the power switch connects and pulling it off after 3 seconds of power. what exactly will the result of doing this be?

i have never heard of doing this before. so excuse my ignorance. it seems dangerous to both me and the mobo.

at this stage i would rather pay £15-00 for a quick test of the main components ie mobo, cpu, agp and ram, rather than £60-00 for a new board after i blow it up. i need a better understanding of the principle being proposed here before i'll feel confident to try it.

i will check the standoffs and make sure that they are all accounted for and level. thanks for suggesting that possible shorting issue.

as you pointed out, i came here for expert advice. and i defiantly seem to have come to the right place!

i will reiterate what i said before, thank you to everyone for that advice they have given. it is all useful, gratefully received and welcome.


<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by phaederus on 04/13/05 12:39 PM.</EM></FONT></P>
 
Sorry if I sounded rude and offensive, but there are many people that come here looking for a "miracle" cure and aren't willing to take the time to actually do any of the tests that are suggested.

That being said, here is the rationalle behind taking the motherboard out of the case.

Having the motherboard removed from the case allows you to make sure that grounding is not an issue with the computer not booting. I know it sounds like a pain, but it is worth the effort.

As far as jumpering the power switch pins and then removing the jumper after 3 seconds, the power switch is a normally open spring return switch, which means that it is only closed when you press it. If you hold the power switch for more than 5 seconds, it will power the computer off again, thus if you jumper the pins, you have to remove the jumper before the 5 second mark after the computer has started its boot up.

Hope this helps clarify just whats going on.

Systems Running F@H:
AMD: [A64 3200+] [XP2800+ x2] [XP2400+]
Intel: [P4 2.8 x4] [P4 2.0] [P4 1.8] [P4 1.7] [P4 1.6 x2] [P4 1.4M] [Xeon 1.0] [Cel 1.0] [P3 ??]
 
ok i understand....

right, took the mobo out and set it up in my desk on top of its box, with a rubber cutting mat between the mobo and the box. no problems there. i left the cpu in place, put the fan back on installed i stick of ram in the slot closest to the cpu. pluged the graphics card into its slot pluged in kb and rodent. plugged in psu. pluged power lead into psu. set up jumper (now i'm really nervous but...) turned on the psu. the fans kicked in as i counted to 3 and pulled the jumper.

the same! fans are on but no bios.

that wasnt so bad, and i now know that all the standoffs are accounted for and that the board is not grounding on the case.

but still no running box.

i'm still waiting for asus to confirm the compatability of all the bits but i really dont think thats a problem.


thanks for your time guys, and your patience!
 
ok... its up and running and the os is going on as i type! i am SO relieved i cannot express it.

the problem was the chip not bedding down properly and not using the cpu fan that came with the chip. i was convinced (by sparky) to take the board out of the case and run it on my desk (i was very nervous about this). this did not help. then i thought, well i have it out now (confidence growing), lets rule out the other fan assembly. i installed it, and the compressive nature of the locks was MUCH greater that the other coolmaster fan i originally installed. booted it on my desk as before and WHOHOOO. i then changed the fan assembly back and tried again and it still worked, so i put it all back together and started the os installation.

thanks to everyone for there help and advice. this has been a highly educational experience and i have no doubt i will be doing it again.

best regards.
 
Congrats on getting your rig up!

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