New computer built - possible dumb question

WhereAreMyPants

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When you read this keep in mind this is my first real computer to build so I'm still learning. Some of the overclock terminology is a little foreign still.

I just build my new computer:
-Athlon64 3200+ Newcastle
-HIS ATI 9800 Pro 128MB graphics card
-MSI K8N Neo Platinum motherboard
-WD HD 10,000 RPM 74GB SATA
-OCZ PC3500EB 2X512MB memory
-Antec 430W True Power PS

Basically my problem is that everywhere I look (BIOS, CPU-Z, Sandra, MSI Core center)...my CPU core speed is reported at 1004MHz. My impression was that the newcastle core 3200's were 2.2GHz. In my BIOS I can only increase my FSB up to 300MHz...I'm not sure how to get my processor to "full speed" or more. I'm sure this is a dumb question but I'd appreciate any input.

Also I'm a little concerned about my CPU temperature as reported by the MSI Core Center software and by the BIOS (with AMD stock fan/heatsink). When I first booted up my system, it was saying about 55 deg C. After I finished installing windows and all my drivers, it told me 65 deg C. The heatsink doesn't feel hot to the touch so I'm wondering if it's the software. However, now (although nothing has changed really except rebooting a few times), the Core Center says CPU temperature is 48 deg C while I'm just surfing. I'm hesitant to play with my FSB speed because of this although I question the accuracy. I also hesitate to replace the CPU fan with something better because of the AMD warranty if my chip is defective or something...

Anyone have any advice or similar experiences?
 

endyen

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I suspect that the 1004 is your HT frequency, but lets check. When you go into bios. go to the cell menu. Where it says adjust cpu ratio, it should say either startup, or 11. Set it to 11. Make sure the line below this is set to 200. This will give you an fsb of 200 and a multiplier of 11. Your speed will be 2.2 gigs.
To OC, you raise the fsb, in small increments, and test for stability. Enjoy your system.
 

WhereAreMyPants

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Thank you very much. I did have it set on startup and the multiplier was 5. I changed it to 11 and it was actually slightly faster than 2.2 GHz according to BIOS. The odd thing is that CPU-Z and Core Center still say the multiplier is 5 and the CPU is running at 1 GHz.... I guess I'll experiment with it some to see if I can get the BIOS and CPU-Z numbers to match...

Still a little concerned about my CPU temp. The heatsink isn't even warm if I touch it. I'm wondering if maybe the Cool & Quiet stuff (which I enabled in bios..)is somehow suppressing the CPU speed due to bad temp. readings? Or if maybe my CPU is defective somehow...

Anyway thanks for the tip endyen.
 

endyen

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Is it too hot? Prime95 will tell you. If prime95 runs okay, your temps are fine. If you want to know what temp is too high, try this. Increase the fsb until prime95 crashes. Now restart, and raise the cpu voltage one notch at a time, and run prime95, with the mbm5 dashboard showing. The temp where prime 95 crashes again, is too high. Anything below that is okay.
 

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Well I turned off Cool&Quiet in BIOS and sure enough CPU-Z and Core Center both say my CPU sped is 2210 MHz now. I started stress testing it with prime95, and Core Center reports my CPU temp up at 73 deg C! That seems pretty high to me...although my system appears to be stable. I really don't know what to do about it. The heatsink seems to be on fine. Possibly the thermal grease on the bottom isnt making contact well or something, but who knows. Maybe I could try putting some new goop on the bottom of the heatsink....

Is 73 deg C a normal CPU temp for AMD 64s? I just hate to mess with it and replace the fan/heatsink only to invalidate the AMD warranty 2 days after I got it. I guess if it burns up...it burns up and I can send it in....

That's a cool program btw.
 

evulboo

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as far as i know msi have a problem with there readout they will eventually release a bios update that will lower it by 20c, abit had the same problem, they have fixed there bios

If u do things right.... People won't be sure you've done anything at all......