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I think this discussion has gone on long enough, it's been enjoyable though seeing different opinions from around the globe!
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Agreed. :)

so basically there are whiners and optimists in every country 😛

PS. so what is a good card that will play games like oblivion and other recent games on max settings yet not require additional cooling and will work with a low end pci x16 motherboard and cost around $280?
(i have to ask this here because most people just ignored a topic i made about this 😳 )
 
It was turning into a Capitalism vs Socialism debate because when one talks about expecting the government to provide them everything, that's Socialism. I don't think he meant the UK is Socialist.
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Precisely

The UK leans socialist but is not a purely socialist system, they like it that way and it works for them. In the US, it is very different mindset and culture, as you can tell from most of the responses.
 
PS. so what is a good card that will play games like oblivion and other recent games on max settings yet not require additional cooling and will work with a low end pci x16 motherboard and cost around $280?
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:Sigh: I've mentioned it at least two times in this thread now.

Newegg has an X1900 XT for $200...

you could spoend more for an X1950 XT, but I'm not sure it's even worth it.
 
LOL :lol:
The X1900XT Cleeve mentioned and linked to is one of the best deals I've seen in recent weeks. To reiterate, this $200 card will beat many $250-300 cards in many games. I also agree that before this card the X1950XT was a good buy at $250, but with this card at the $200 price point, the extra 2-3 frames per sec. the higher memory speeds of the X1950XT will get you seem negligible (especially for an extra $50).
 
PS. so what is a good card that will play games like oblivion and other recent games on max settings yet not require additional cooling and will work with a low end pci x16 motherboard and cost around $280?
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:Sigh: I've mentioned it at least two times in this thread now.

Newegg has an X1900 XT for $200...

you could spoend more for an X1950 XT, but I'm not sure it's even worth it.

yet not require additional cooling that was one of my primary concerns,yet somehow everyone keeps ignoring that, even in the review it is mentioned that the card gets hot around 75C!

And i am not a complete idiot not reading anything and just looking for a quick answer you know and i dont get stuff to test for free, i had to save up for a long time to be able to afford this purchase and i want to make sure i dont mess anything up. Perhaps many people can afford to purchase a new graphics card every other month but i certainly aint one of them, i cant order this thing online i have to order it with a local retailer and if it doesn't work i am screwed big time cause they don't handle returns and smuggle the stuff anyway
 
I appreciate the suggestion as I'm looking for a new card as well. I'm very capable at running a computer, but I really have never learned much about the hardware components. This leads me to my (noobie) question. I actually won the computer I game on currently (so I didn't get to chose the system). How do I figure out what mobo is in this thing and determine if that will be compatible with the X1900XT that newegg has? I have a Dell XPS Gen 3 system. If anybody knows or can give me a quick lesson on how to figure it out...I would greatly appreciate it. I almost pulled the trigger on this card already (currently have a X800XT) but want to make sure this will work before I make the purchase.

Again I appreciate any help,

Square
 
i upgrade a 850xt on a system to x1800xt 512 - just for oblivion, it was the only problem game (laggy) - after the upgrade it worked great. the system had 2 gigs of ram prior so i have guess the gpu minimum is x1800 - try a x1950 pro for $180 or better yet a x1950xt at $250. no lag after- in or out doors!!!

WarpedSystems.net "the need4speed"
 
if its old dell that means only intel - then asus is the best board - you might even find you can use the same harddrive with out reloading windows.

use intel chip set with ati and nvidia with nvidia has worked well for me. i am only know trying 6 series for both.

most asus boards in the $75 range have overclocking stay away from nforce4 or nforce5 do not overclock over 10%.

ASUS P5L-MX is 945 chipset it will work - 965 chipset is better
 
As far as temps --the card is designed to work at 75c the chip is made from silicon which melts at 1400c - the plastic around it is the problem - the card has been designed to run that hot.

DO NOT use the after market cooler such as areocool that exhaust at the mobo you over heat your system. your better off adding a slot cooler above the card or slot double fan blower to move alot of air around the card.
 
Nvidia cards suck; they will drain your psu and their fan db output makes me laugh. Sounds like a freaking jet flying right above my head. Go back and look at nvidia's futile attempts in competing with ATI in the dx9 realm. Poor drivers, inconsiderate customer relations principles, and the lack of innovation are signature staples of Nvidia operation. The core graphics of nvidia have earned the slogan "loud, late, overclocked and underpowered" from true pc gamers. Quanity does not equal quality, and over-marketing ones product is just a sign of apprehensiveness in respect to customer satisfaction. However, if you are trying to create an fire/explosive device out of computer parts alone, i do reccomend putting an Nvidia based card in your motherboard; i just hope you havent grown to attached to your pc. I still havent seen an Nvidia card than can run Doom3 to my standards. Seriously, Nvidia reminds me of a kid in an arcade standing feverishly over the "Whack a Mole" game - and always losing.
 
Nvidia cards suck; they will drain your psu and their fan db output makes me laugh. Sounds like a freaking jet flying right above my head. Go back and look at nvidia's futile attempts in competing with ATI in the dx9 realm. Poor drivers, inconsiderate customer relations principles, and the lack of innovation are signature staples of Nvidia operation. The core graphics of nvidia have earned the slogan "loud, late, overclocked and underpowered" from true pc gamers. Quanity does not equal quality, and over-marketing ones product is just a sign of apprehensiveness in respect to customer satisfaction. However, if you are trying to create an fire/explosive device out of computer parts alone, i do reccomend putting an Nvidia based card in your motherboard; i just hope you havent grown to attached to your pc. I still havent seen an Nvidia card than can run Doom3 to my standards. Seriously, Nvidia reminds me of a kid in an arcade standing feverishly over the "Whack a Mole" game - and always losing.
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I'd buy a NVidia 7950GT (or otherwise a 7900GT with fast 256MB DDR3 RAM is also a possibility). Best buy now, not the AMD (ati) brainwash here! But i guess like the CPU thing, half people prefer Intel, half people prefer AMD.

Talking about innovation, i like a lot the new NVidia 8800 series, despite its high price now. I guess the prices will drop down when AMD (ati) lauches in a few monthes also a DX10 compatible card.

Another thing: i'm not sure about this AMD/NVidia deal for the mobo chipsets... It's really annoying to hear from AMD that NVidia is best than ATI a few days after buying ATI!!!
 
yet not require additional cooling that was one of my primary concerns,yet somehow everyone keeps ignoring that, even in the review it is mentioned that the card gets hot around 75C!
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:sigh:

75 degrees is absolutely fine for an X1900.

Who told you that additional cooling is required? X1900s can even run in the 90 degree range stock.
 
Nvidia cards suck; they will drain your psu and their fan db output makes me laugh.
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[I'd buy a NVidia 7950GT (or otherwise a 7900GT with fast 256MB DDR3 RAM is also a possibility). Best buy now, not the AMD (ati) brainwash here!
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Both of you guys need to grab a clue. Nvidia and Ati cards are both fine.

And for the record, at the $200 price point the X1900 will still eat a 7950 GT alive. If that's brainwash, prove it with benches, because from what I've seen the X1900 XT has no problem smoking the 7950 GT in almost everything.

That's a natural fact and has nothing to do with fanboyism... just like a $420 Geforce 8800 GTS will smoke an X1950 XTX.
 
well, this certainly went off topic :)

Thanks Cleeve, and others, for the recommendations. I went with the connect3D X1900 XT. My first ever ATI card! The VGA charts on tomshardware showed it outperforming the 7950GT, and even some sli setups based on the 7900GT/GS, etc. The one they benchmarked has 512MB of memory, as opposed to the 256 on the connect3D one, so I'm not expecting the exact same scores, but they should be close.
 
well, this certainly went off topic :)

Thanks Cleeve, and others, for the recommendations. I went with the connect3D X1900 XT. My first ever ATI card! The VGA charts on tomshardware showed it outperforming the 7950GT, and even some sli setups based on the 7900GT/GS, etc. The one they benchmarked has 512MB of memory, as opposed to the 256 on the connect3D one, so I'm not expecting the exact same scores, but they should be close.
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Damn'it! Mission failure NVidia! 🙂

If you buy an ATI x1900XT probably i'll do the same! ;-)

In my case it's not the first ATI as i bought some in the early days of ATI, several years ago. The experience was not very positive and in the sudden NVidia came on with GForce which are great cards anyway (including the 7950GT).
In this specific segment and price range, i believe the X1900XT outperforms the 7950GT. I think NVidia is focusing more on the 8800 series rather then trully competing with ATI in the mid-segment with the "old" 7xxx series.

Regarding the X1900XT does anyone knows if it consumes more or less power than the 7950GT? Does it need to be connected to the PSU?
Thanks.
 
Regarding the X1900XT does anyone knows if it consumes more or less power than the 7950GT? Does it need to be connected to the PSU?
Thanks.
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I believe the X1900 XT eats notably more power than the 7950 GT.

Yep, the X1950 XT does require a 6-pin power connector. The 7950 GT does, too.
 
I just got an 580W powersupply, so I'm not worried. The specs on newegg for the card list a 450W. Once I get it installed I'll post some FPS readings from Oblivion, and 3dMark scores.

Since this thread already went way off topic..... anybody know any crossfire intel motherboards?

(That's purely a curiousity question... I have no intention of going crossfire)
 
Nvidia cards suck; they will drain your psu and their fan db output makes me laugh. Sounds like a freaking jet flying right above my head. Go back and look at nvidia's futile attempts in competing with ATI in the dx9 realm. Poor drivers, inconsiderate customer relations principles, and the lack of innovation are signature staples of Nvidia operation. The core graphics of nvidia have earned the slogan "loud, late, overclocked and underpowered" from true pc gamers. Quanity does not equal quality, and over-marketing ones product is just a sign of apprehensiveness in respect to customer satisfaction. However, if you are trying to create an fire/explosive device out of computer parts alone, i do reccomend putting an Nvidia based card in your motherboard; i just hope you havent grown to attached to your pc. I still havent seen an Nvidia card than can run Doom3 to my standards. Seriously, Nvidia reminds me of a kid in an arcade standing feverishly over the "Whack a Mole" game - and always losing.
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i lov it! a true ati die hard - hey i still am using my 3.0c @3.5ghz and my 9600xT 0 i love ati.

but in response to nvidia suxs - well the cards are quiter and cooler - the x1950 is a improvement for sure. As far as power goes ati usually uses more.

There is no "ATI 8800" the r600 is too hot and too power hungry.

6800ultra was power hog! lol the 7800gtx is nice card - x1900 was the first of the super hot cards - if i remember right.

i use both, competition is good!
 
Most people, who have problems, skip on the psu (or they use the psu that came with the case with 20 amps) and it causes problems sooner or later --i I build systems with 2-5 hdd, lots of lights and funs stuff Also, you can not go by power rating by neweeeeg or manufacture. the dumbest thing is to skimp on a psu - u damage other things or end tearing the entire system apart when u replace it - to save $20-$50. i know i have done it more then once.

you should be using 600 watt supplies with 35 amps min on the 12v - the ratings for psu mean nothing. they do not factor in heat - psu loses efficiency as it gets hotter, then it needs more power then it loses more efficiency the pooof! while gaming the system shuts off? they do not factor in add ons like lights and fans and lighedfans - even if the fan is .3 to .5 amps 4-6 fans and light add up.

wow why did that happen? its the psu every time.

if you might go with high end cards in sli or crossfire - all my systems are dual pci-x slot mobos - u need 750 watts

if you going with only 1 high end card or 2 mid cards u need 600 watts

make sure u look for those 550 watt supplies with really low 22 amp 12v lines u will crash!

WarpedSystems "the need4speed"
 
Initial impressions of the card, for anyone reading through this thread.

I can now play oblivion at my monitors native resolution (1400x900), putting out about 25-30fps outdoors, which is great. And I don't get any lag at all when fighting enemies outdoors, either. With my old 6800GS the FPS could drop into the single digits in that situation.

My 3dMark score went from 5847 (with the GS overclocked to 511/1.17 from the stock 400/1.00) to 7826 with the X1900 XT.

So far this card rocks!
 
You should have gone with the 8800GTS ...DX10 is here....don't say I didn't warn ya.

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