New PC purchase advice please.

[SMR_1_]

Hello,
I'm planning on new PC purchase now and would really appreciate any advice I can get. I've done a lot of research into building my own system for the first time or buying prebuilt. All I hear people say is build your own because you will save hundreds and be getting better parts. However, that does not seem to be true in the research I've done.

The pc I'm considering purchasing is from cyberpowerpc.com. I configured the pc through the customize option to have all brand name parts such as corsair & msi for everything from the motherboard to the psu, ram, ssd and liquid cooling, etc. the out the door price for this cyberpowerpc with all brand name parts comes to $1453

According to all the research I've done, to purchase the exact same parts separately to build the pc myself would cost a minimum of $1560 plus tax which would put the final cost well over $200 more then the cyberpowerpc and that's just for the same main components and doesn't even include the extras I'd be getting with the prebuilt pc. This is according to pcpartpicker, newegg and amazon.

My question is, should I pull the trigger on this prebuilt pc from cyberpowerpc or is there any reason to spend over $200 more to build the same pc myself or is there something I'm not understanding here when people say you will save hundreds to build the pc yourself?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you

 

[g-unit1111]

Most of the extras that Cyberpower includes are junk that you wouldn't normally buy in the first place. I've seen way too many horror stories about Cyberpower in order to recommend them to anybody. And I wouldn't worry about liquid cooling - the liquid cooler that Cyberpower bundles with most of their PCs is a junk low end Asetek unit that's on par with the Corsair H60, but more prone to failure. For $1500 if it's strictly a gaming PC I would do this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($327.89 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H5 Universal 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($52.91 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME Z270-AR ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($163.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($97.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.44 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB AMP! Edition Video Card ($499.99 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.89 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1560.77
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-14 18:57 EDT-0400

Or:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700X 3.4GHz 8-Core Processor ($340.80 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H5 Universal 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($52.91 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME X370-PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard ($149.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($97.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.44 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB AMP! Edition Video Card ($499.99 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.89 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1559.28
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-14 18:58 EDT-0400

So both would come out about $1560, with operating system license and are cheaper and better than anything you can buy from Cyberpower.

 

[aquielisunari]

What does say a lot are itemized final prices. Complete and total itemized lists. Can you please post a link to each of the lists? In the past decade I've not seen a parts list that is $200 with identical parts. Identical as in identical make and model numbers. Can you provide those identical lists?

In the past decade I've seen people save over $200. There are the exceptions to the rule where Cyberpower or Ibuypower are less expensive. Sales make differences. Lazy shopping makes differences. Lazy as in choosing one retailer and sticking with them. Sellers make differences. Not shopping around can cost hundreds. I will not guarantee people they will save hundreds but building their own is usually cheaper.

See what the mod did? That does come right close to believable. AN itemized list. Unfortunately PcPartpicker does have its flaws. They offer final final prices. The customer may have to pay $30 more for an item at checkout and then send in a rebate form.

 

[aquielisunari]

Most of the extras that Cyberpower includes are junk that you wouldn't normally buy in the first place. I've seen way too many horror stories about Cyberpower in order to recommend them to anybody. And I wouldn't worry about liquid cooling - the liquid cooler that Cyberpower bundles with most of their PCs is a junk low end Asetek unit that's on par with the Corsair H60, but more prone to failure. For $1500 if it's strictly a gaming PC I would do this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($327.89 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H5 Universal 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($52.91 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME Z270-AR ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($163.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($97.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.44 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB AMP! Edition Video Card ($499.99 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.89 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1560.77
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-14 18:57 EDT-0400

Or:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700X 3.4GHz 8-Core Processor ($340.80 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H5 Universal 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($52.91 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME X370-PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard ($149.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($97.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.44 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB AMP! Edition Video Card ($499.99 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.89 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1559.28
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-14 18:58 EDT-0400

So both would come out about $1560, with operating system license and are cheaper and better than anything you can buy from Cyberpower.

I had to stop. When I added changed the 1060 to a 1080 I already well exceeded the PCPartpicker price

*BASE_PRICE: [+1215]
Fathers Day Featured Promotions: None
Gaming Chassis: NZXT Source 340 Elite Mid­Tow er Gaming Case w / Full­size Tempered Glass Panel Window (Black/Orange
Color)
Laser Engraving: None
Laser Engraving Message:
Freebies: None
Lighting: None
Extra Case Fans: Default case fans
Noise Reduction Technology: None
CPU: Intel® Core™ Processor i7­7700K 4.20GHZ 8MB Intel Smart Cache LGA1151 (Kaby Lake)
Freebies: None
Performance Tuning Protection Plan by Intel: None
Venom Boost Fast And Efficient Factory Overclocking: No Overclocking
CPU / Processor Cooling Fan: Corsair Hydro Series H60 120mm Liquid CPU Cooling System w / Copper Cold Plate (Single
Standard 120MM Fan)
Coolant for Cyberpower Xtreme Hydro Water Cooling Kits: None
Motherboard: ASUS PRIMEZ270­A w / RGB, USB 3.1, 3 PCIe x16, 4 PCIe x1, 6 SATA3, 2 M.2 SATA/PCIe [Intel Optane Ready]
[+72]
RAM / System Memory: 8GB (4GBx2) DDR4/2400MHz Dual Channel Memory (Corsair or Major Brand)
Video Card: GeForce® GTX 1080 8GB GDDR5X (Pascal)[VR Ready] [+395] (Single Card)
Sli Bridge: None
EVGA Power: None
HTC VIVEVirtual reality Headset: None
Freebies: None
Video Capture Card: None
Power Supply: 600 Watts ­ Standard 80 Plus Certified Pow er Supply ­ SLI/CrossFireX Ready
M.2 SSD: None
Freebies: None
INTERNAL PCI­ESSD CARD: None
Hard Drive: 1TB SATA­III 6.0Gb/s 32MB Cache 7200RPM HDD (Single Drive)
Freebies: None
Secondary Hard Drive: None
Hard Drive Cooling Fan: None
External Storage: None
Optical Drive: None
Optical Drive 2: None
External Optical Drive: None
WiDi Router: None
Internal Wireless Network Card: None
Sound: HIGH DEFINITION ON­BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
LCD Monitor: None
Cables: None
Speakers: None
Internal Network Card: Onboard Gigabit LAN Netw ork
Keyboard: Cyberpow erPC Multimedia USB Gaming Keyboard
Mouse: Cyberpow erPC Standard 4000 DPI w ith Weight System Optical Gaming Mouse
Mouse Pad: None
Headset: None
Gaming Apparel: None
Website: www.cyberpowerpc.com
Call Us at: (800) 707­0393
6/14/2017 CyberPowerPC Inc
https://www.cyberpowerpc.com/saving/print.aspx 2/2
Gaming Apparel: None
Gaming Gear: None
Internal USB Expansion Module: None
External Wireless Network Card: None
Wireless Routers/Hubs: None
Docking Station: None
Bluetooth: None
Flash Media Reader/Writer: None
Video Camera: None
Power & Surge Protection: None
USB Hub & Port: Built­in USB 2.0 Ports
External USB ADAPTER: None
Operating System: None ­ FORMAT HARD DRIVEONLY
Security Software: None
Professional Wiring: None
Ultra Care Option: None
Warranty: STANDARD WARRANTY: 1 Year Parts WARRANTY
Service: 3 Years FREEService Plan (INCLUDES LABOR AND LIFETIMETECHNICAL SUPPORT)
Rush Service: Standard processing time: ship w ithin 5 to 10 Business Days
*_PRICE: (+1682)

That is but one example. What are we missing here? When I look to my RAM I get Corsair or major brand from Cyberpower. When I build it myself I get

G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory

I could go on but of course you will provide us proof of your assertions so this list will be made moot.

 

[SMR_1_]

What does say a lot are itemized final prices. Complete and total itemized lists. Can you please post a link to each of the lists? In the past decade I've not seen a parts list that is $200 with identical parts. Identical as in identical make and model numbers. Can you provide those identical lists?

In the past decade I've seen people save over $200. There are the exceptions to the rule where Cyberpower or Ibuypower are less expensive. Sales make differences. Lazy shopping makes differences. Lazy as in choosing one retailer and sticking with them. Sellers make differences. Not shopping around can cost hundreds. I will not guarantee people they will save hundreds but building their own is usually cheaper.

See what the mod did? That does come right close to believable. AN itemized list. Unfortunately PcPartpicker does have its flaws. They offer final final prices. The customer may have to pay $30 more for an item at checkout and then send in a rebate form.

Hey,

This is the exact PC configuration with a price of $1453 shipped to my door.
BASE_PRICE: [+1059]
BLKFRISALE1: CYBERPOWERPC Skorpion K1 RGB Mechanical Gaming Keyboard w/ Kontact Blue Switches and Programmable RGB LED Lighting [+5]
BLKFRISALE2: TP-LINK 802.11AC Archer T2U AC600 Wireless Dual Band, 2.4GHz 150Mbps/5Ghz 433Mbps USB Adapter [+5]
BLKFRISALE3: McAfee AntiVirus Plus [+5] (Factory Pre-Install [Digital Version])
BLKFRISALE4: CyberpowerPC Gaming Mouse Pad [+0]

CAS: Thermaltake Core V31 Black Mid-Tower Gaming case w/ USB 3.0 & removable Drive Bays & Side-Panel Window [+19]

CD: LG 12X Internal Blu-ray Drive & DVDRW, 3D Playback Combo Drive [+32] (BLACK COLOR)

CPU: Intel® Core™ Processor i7-7700K 4.20GHZ 8MB Intel Smart Cache LGA1151 (Kaby Lake) [+96]

CS_FAN: Default case fans

FAN: Corsair Hydro Series H60 120mm Liquid CPU Cooling System w/ Copper Cold Plate (Single Standard 120MM Fan)

FLASHMEDIA: INTERNAL 12in1 Flash Media Reader/Writer [+10] (BLACK COLOR)

FREEBIE_CS: 3X 120mm Thermaltake Riing 12 Series High Static Pressure 120mm Case/Radiator Fan (Red Color LED)
FREEBIE_CU1: CyberPowerPC GreenManGaming Mystery Loot Chest Bundle [+0]

HD_M2SSD: 500GB WD Blue M.2 SATA-III 6.0Gb/s SSD - 545MB/s Read and 525MB/s Write [-9] (Single Drive)
IUSB: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports

KEYBOARD: None [-5]

MEMORY: 16GB (8GBx2) DDR4/2400MHz Dual Channel Memory (Corsair or Major Brand)

MOTHERBOARD: MSI Z270 GAMING PRO CARBON ATX w/ RGB, USB 3.1, 3 PCIe x16, 3 PCIe x1, 6 SATA3, 2 M.2 SATA/PCIe [Intel Optane Ready] [+37]

MOUSE: CyberpowerPC Standard 4000 DPI with Weight System Optical Gaming Mouse

NETWORK: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network

OS: Windows 10 Pro (64-bit Edition) [+31]

POWERSUPPLY: 650 Watts - Corsair CX650M CX Series Modular 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply [+36]

SERVICE: 3 Years FREE Service Plan (INCLUDES LABOR AND LIFETIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT)

SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO

VIDEO: GeForce® GTX 1070 Founder Edition 8GB GDDR5 (Pascal)[VR Ready] [+193] (Single Card)

WARRANTY: STANDARD WARRANTY: 1 Year Parts WARRANTY + ONE (1) YEAR SHIPPING [+19]

 

[SMR_1_]

Most of the extras that Cyberpower includes are junk that you wouldn't normally buy in the first place. I've seen way too many horror stories about Cyberpower in order to recommend them to anybody. And I wouldn't worry about liquid cooling - the liquid cooler that Cyberpower bundles with most of their PCs is a junk low end Asetek unit that's on par with the Corsair H60, but more prone to failure. For $1500 if it's strictly a gaming PC I would do this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($327.89 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H5 Universal 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($52.91 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME Z270-AR ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($163.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($97.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.44 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB AMP! Edition Video Card ($499.99 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.89 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1560.77
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-14 18:57 EDT-0400

Or:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700X 3.4GHz 8-Core Processor ($340.80 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H5 Universal 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($52.91 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME X370-PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard ($149.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($97.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.44 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB AMP! Edition Video Card ($499.99 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.89 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1559.28
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-14 18:58 EDT-0400

So both would come out about $1560, with operating system license and are cheaper and better than anything you can buy from Cyberpower.

I had to stop. When I added changed the 1060 to a 1080 I already well exceeded the PCPartpicker price

*BASE_PRICE: [+1215]
Fathers Day Featured Promotions: None
Gaming Chassis: NZXT Source 340 Elite Mid­Tow er Gaming Case w / Full­size Tempered Glass Panel Window (Black/Orange
Color)
Laser Engraving: None
Laser Engraving Message:
Freebies: None
Lighting: None
Extra Case Fans: Default case fans
Noise Reduction Technology: None
CPU: Intel® Core™ Processor i7­7700K 4.20GHZ 8MB Intel Smart Cache LGA1151 (Kaby Lake)
Freebies: None
Performance Tuning Protection Plan by Intel: None
Venom Boost Fast And Efficient Factory Overclocking: No Overclocking
CPU / Processor Cooling Fan: Corsair Hydro Series H60 120mm Liquid CPU Cooling System w / Copper Cold Plate (Single
Standard 120MM Fan)
Coolant for Cyberpower Xtreme Hydro Water Cooling Kits: None
Motherboard: ASUS PRIMEZ270­A w / RGB, USB 3.1, 3 PCIe x16, 4 PCIe x1, 6 SATA3, 2 M.2 SATA/PCIe [Intel Optane Ready]
[+72]
RAM / System Memory: 8GB (4GBx2) DDR4/2400MHz Dual Channel Memory (Corsair or Major Brand)
Video Card: GeForce® GTX 1080 8GB GDDR5X (Pascal)[VR Ready] [+395] (Single Card)
Sli Bridge: None
EVGA Power: None
HTC VIVEVirtual reality Headset: None
Freebies: None
Video Capture Card: None
Power Supply: 600 Watts ­ Standard 80 Plus Certified Pow er Supply ­ SLI/CrossFireX Ready
M.2 SSD: None
Freebies: None
INTERNAL PCI­ESSD CARD: None
Hard Drive: 1TB SATA­III 6.0Gb/s 32MB Cache 7200RPM HDD (Single Drive)
Freebies: None
Secondary Hard Drive: None
Hard Drive Cooling Fan: None
External Storage: None
Optical Drive: None
Optical Drive 2: None
External Optical Drive: None
WiDi Router: None
Internal Wireless Network Card: None
Sound: HIGH DEFINITION ON­BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
LCD Monitor: None
Cables: None
Speakers: None
Internal Network Card: Onboard Gigabit LAN Netw ork
Keyboard: Cyberpow erPC Multimedia USB Gaming Keyboard
Mouse: Cyberpow erPC Standard 4000 DPI w ith Weight System Optical Gaming Mouse
Mouse Pad: None
Headset: None
Gaming Apparel: None
Website: www.cyberpowerpc.com
Call Us at: (800) 707­0393
6/14/2017 CyberPowerPC Inc
https://www.cyberpowerpc.com/saving/print.aspx 2/2
Gaming Apparel: None
Gaming Gear: None
Internal USB Expansion Module: None
External Wireless Network Card: None
Wireless Routers/Hubs: None
Docking Station: None
Bluetooth: None
Flash Media Reader/Writer: None
Video Camera: None
Power & Surge Protection: None
USB Hub & Port: Built­in USB 2.0 Ports
External USB ADAPTER: None
Operating System: None ­ FORMAT HARD DRIVEONLY
Security Software: None
Professional Wiring: None
Ultra Care Option: None
Warranty: STANDARD WARRANTY: 1 Year Parts WARRANTY
Service: 3 Years FREEService Plan (INCLUDES LABOR AND LIFETIMETECHNICAL SUPPORT)
Rush Service: Standard processing time: ship w ithin 5 to 10 Business Days
*_PRICE: (+1682)

That is but one example. What are we missing here? When I look to my RAM I get Corsair or major brand from Cyberpower. When I build it myself I get

G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory

I could go on but of course you will provide us proof of your assertions so this list will be made moot.

Hey,
Thanks so much for taking the time to do that for me, I really appreciate it! However, I do not know why it says taxes are included in the prices because its not. I just checked some parts and some like the GTX 1080 from Amazon has an additional 8.8% tax because I'm in NYC. I am not sure is the other companies listed charge tax in NY but i'll check now.
Thanks again!

How do I provide the proof you mentioned? Is it possible to send a screenshot of the final price in the cart? I should also mention that I used a common promo code that gives you 5% off any order of $999 or more

 

[g-unit1111]

That is but one example. What are we missing here? When I look to my RAM I get Corsair or major brand from Cyberpower. When I build it myself I get

G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory

I could go on but of course you will provide us proof of your assertions so this list will be made moot.

When it says "major name brand", I take that as a gigantic red flag. Because it's almost never a major name brand and it's almost always some OEM component that they buy in bulk. One of the reasons why Cyberpower and their sister company iBUYPOWER get so much flack is because of the fact that they don't include name brand components in critical areas like PSU, cooling, RAM, and storage. Instead it's almost always generic, bulk no name components that more than often wind up failing than succeeding.

 

[USAFRet]

Friends don't let friends buy CyberPower:
http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2990661/asap.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2933633/bottom-case-filters.html
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-3249706/cyberpowerpc-burnt-flame.html

 

[SMR_1_]

Would you spend $1450 to purchase this PC from cyberpower of would you spend more to build it yourself? I have to admit the reason I am even asking is because of all the horror stories I've read online about cyberpowerpc and their use of garbage parts but since this is all brand name parts I am wondering if its worth it or not? BTW, theres an option to upgrade the ram to the gskill ripjaws v for an extra $30 but I wasn't sure if it was worth it or not.

HBASE_PRICE: [+1059]
BLKFRISALE1: CYBERPOWERPC Skorpion K1 RGB Mechanical Gaming Keyboard w/ Kontact Blue Switches and Programmable RGB LED Lighting [+5]
BLKFRISALE2: TP-LINK 802.11AC Archer T2U AC600 Wireless Dual Band, 2.4GHz 150Mbps/5Ghz 433Mbps USB Adapter [+5]
BLKFRISALE3: McAfee AntiVirus Plus [+5] (Factory Pre-Install [Digital Version])
BLKFRISALE4: CyberpowerPC Gaming Mouse Pad [+0]

CAS: Thermaltake Core V31 Black Mid-Tower Gaming case w/ USB 3.0 & removable Drive Bays & Side-Panel Window [+19]

CD: LG 12X Internal Blu-ray Drive & DVDRW, 3D Playback Combo Drive [+32] (BLACK COLOR)

CPU: Intel® Core™ Processor i7-7700K 4.20GHZ 8MB Intel Smart Cache LGA1151 (Kaby Lake) [+96]

CS_FAN: Default case fans

FAN: Corsair Hydro Series H60 120mm Liquid CPU Cooling System w/ Copper Cold Plate (Single Standard 120MM Fan)

FLASHMEDIA: INTERNAL 12in1 Flash Media Reader/Writer [+10] (BLACK COLOR)

FREEBIE_CS: 3X 120mm Thermaltake Riing 12 Series High Static Pressure 120mm Case/Radiator Fan (Red Color LED)
FREEBIE_CU1: CyberPowerPC GreenManGaming Mystery Loot Chest Bundle [+0]

HD_M2SSD: 500GB WD Blue M.2 SATA-III 6.0Gb/s SSD - 545MB/s Read and 525MB/s Write [-9] (Single Drive)
IUSB: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports

KEYBOARD: None [-5]

MEMORY: 16GB (8GBx2) DDR4/2400MHz Dual Channel Memory (Corsair or Major Brand)

MOTHERBOARD: MSI Z270 GAMING PRO CARBON ATX w/ RGB, USB 3.1, 3 PCIe x16, 3 PCIe x1, 6 SATA3, 2 M.2 SATA/PCIe [Intel Optane Ready] [+37]

MOUSE: CyberpowerPC Standard 4000 DPI with Weight System Optical Gaming Mouse

NETWORK: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network

OS: Windows 10 Pro (64-bit Edition) [+31]

POWERSUPPLY: 650 Watts - Corsair CX650M CX Series Modular 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply [+36]

SERVICE: 3 Years FREE Service Plan (INCLUDES LABOR AND LIFETIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT)

SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO

VIDEO: GeForce® GTX 1070 Founder Edition 8GB GDDR5 (Pascal)[VR Ready] [+193] (Single Card)

WARRANTY: STANDARD WARRANTY: 1 Year Parts WARRANTY + ONE (1) YEAR SHIPPING [+19]ere is the PC

Thanks again for all your help everyone

 

[USAFRet]

Recently, there was another CyberPower system. ~$2,500, I believe.

We went through and selected the exact same parts (or better in one or two cases), including the OS and all of the accessory junk.
$1,800 in actual parts. Basically...giving them $700 for mediocre assembly.

 

[SMR_1_]

Friends don't let friends buy CyberPower:
http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2990661/asap.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2933633/bottom-case-filters.html
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-3249706/cyberpowerpc-burnt-flame.html

Yeah, like I just mentioned, I've read plenty of complete horror stories about this company and this is the reason I was even asking this question. I thought maybe since I would not be using any cyberpower branded parts and all brand name it might be okay. However, I guess there must be a reason why this PC cost less then it would to build it myself and I should probably stick with my gut feeling and stay away from this company...

Thanks again guys

 

[aquielisunari]

What does say a lot are itemized final prices. Complete and total itemized lists. Can you please post a link to each of the lists? In the past decade I've not seen a parts list that is $200 with identical parts. Identical as in identical make and model numbers. Can you provide those identical lists?

In the past decade I've seen people save over $200. There are the exceptions to the rule where Cyberpower or Ibuypower are less expensive. Sales make differences. Lazy shopping makes differences. Lazy as in choosing one retailer and sticking with them. Sellers make differences. Not shopping around can cost hundreds. I will not guarantee people they will save hundreds but building their own is usually cheaper.

See what the mod did? That does come right close to believable. AN itemized list. Unfortunately PcPartpicker does have its flaws. They offer final final prices. The customer may have to pay $30 more for an item at checkout and then send in a rebate form.

Hey,

This is the exact PC configuration with a price of $1453 shipped to my door.
BASE_PRICE: [+1059]
BLKFRISALE1: CYBERPOWERPC Skorpion K1 RGB Mechanical Gaming Keyboard w/ Kontact Blue Switches and Programmable RGB LED Lighting [+5]
BLKFRISALE2: TP-LINK 802.11AC Archer T2U AC600 Wireless Dual Band, 2.4GHz 150Mbps/5Ghz 433Mbps USB Adapter [+5]
BLKFRISALE3: McAfee AntiVirus Plus [+5] (Factory Pre-Install [Digital Version])
BLKFRISALE4: CyberpowerPC Gaming Mouse Pad [+0]

CAS: Thermaltake Core V31 Black Mid-Tower Gaming case w/ USB 3.0 & removable Drive Bays & Side-Panel Window [+19]

CD: LG 12X Internal Blu-ray Drive & DVDRW, 3D Playback Combo Drive [+32] (BLACK COLOR)

CPU: Intel® Core™ Processor i7-7700K 4.20GHZ 8MB Intel Smart Cache LGA1151 (Kaby Lake) [+96]

CS_FAN: Default case fans

FAN: Corsair Hydro Series H60 120mm Liquid CPU Cooling System w/ Copper Cold Plate (Single Standard 120MM Fan)

FLASHMEDIA: INTERNAL 12in1 Flash Media Reader/Writer [+10] (BLACK COLOR)

FREEBIE_CS: 3X 120mm Thermaltake Riing 12 Series High Static Pressure 120mm Case/Radiator Fan (Red Color LED)
FREEBIE_CU1: CyberPowerPC GreenManGaming Mystery Loot Chest Bundle [+0]

HD_M2SSD: 500GB WD Blue M.2 SATA-III 6.0Gb/s SSD - 545MB/s Read and 525MB/s Write [-9] (Single Drive)
IUSB: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports

KEYBOARD: None [-5]

MEMORY: 16GB (8GBx2) DDR4/2400MHz Dual Channel Memory (Corsair or Major Brand)

MOTHERBOARD: MSI Z270 GAMING PRO CARBON ATX w/ RGB, USB 3.1, 3 PCIe x16, 3 PCIe x1, 6 SATA3, 2 M.2 SATA/PCIe [Intel Optane Ready] [+37]

MOUSE: CyberpowerPC Standard 4000 DPI with Weight System Optical Gaming Mouse

NETWORK: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network

OS: Windows 10 Pro (64-bit Edition) [+31]

POWERSUPPLY: 650 Watts - Corsair CX650M CX Series Modular 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply [+36]

SERVICE: 3 Years FREE Service Plan (INCLUDES LABOR AND LIFETIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT)

SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO

VIDEO: GeForce® GTX 1070 Founder Edition 8GB GDDR5 (Pascal)[VR Ready] [+193] (Single Card)

WARRANTY: STANDARD WARRANTY: 1 Year Parts WARRANTY + ONE (1) YEAR SHIPPING [+19]

Most of the extras that Cyberpower includes are junk that you wouldn't normally buy in the first place. I've seen way too many horror stories about Cyberpower in order to recommend them to anybody. And I wouldn't worry about liquid cooling - the liquid cooler that Cyberpower bundles with most of their PCs is a junk low end Asetek unit that's on par with the Corsair H60, but more prone to failure. For $1500 if it's strictly a gaming PC I would do this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($327.89 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H5 Universal 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($52.91 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME Z270-AR ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($163.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($97.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.44 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB AMP! Edition Video Card ($499.99 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.89 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1560.77
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-14 18:57 EDT-0400

Or:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700X 3.4GHz 8-Core Processor ($340.80 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H5 Universal 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($52.91 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME X370-PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard ($149.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($97.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.44 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB AMP! Edition Video Card ($499.99 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.89 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1559.28
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-14 18:58 EDT-0400

So both would come out about $1560, with operating system license and are cheaper and better than anything you can buy from Cyberpower.

I had to stop. When I added changed the 1060 to a 1080 I already well exceeded the PCPartpicker price

*BASE_PRICE: [+1215]
Fathers Day Featured Promotions: None
Gaming Chassis: NZXT Source 340 Elite Mid­Tow er Gaming Case w / Full­size Tempered Glass Panel Window (Black/Orange
Color)
Laser Engraving: None
Laser Engraving Message:
Freebies: None
Lighting: None
Extra Case Fans: Default case fans
Noise Reduction Technology: None
CPU: Intel® Core™ Processor i7­7700K 4.20GHZ 8MB Intel Smart Cache LGA1151 (Kaby Lake)
Freebies: None
Performance Tuning Protection Plan by Intel: None
Venom Boost Fast And Efficient Factory Overclocking: No Overclocking
CPU / Processor Cooling Fan: Corsair Hydro Series H60 120mm Liquid CPU Cooling System w / Copper Cold Plate (Single
Standard 120MM Fan)
Coolant for Cyberpower Xtreme Hydro Water Cooling Kits: None
Motherboard: ASUS PRIMEZ270­A w / RGB, USB 3.1, 3 PCIe x16, 4 PCIe x1, 6 SATA3, 2 M.2 SATA/PCIe [Intel Optane Ready]
[+72]
RAM / System Memory: 8GB (4GBx2) DDR4/2400MHz Dual Channel Memory (Corsair or Major Brand)
Video Card: GeForce® GTX 1080 8GB GDDR5X (Pascal)[VR Ready] [+395] (Single Card)
Sli Bridge: None
EVGA Power: None
HTC VIVEVirtual reality Headset: None
Freebies: None
Video Capture Card: None
Power Supply: 600 Watts ­ Standard 80 Plus Certified Pow er Supply ­ SLI/CrossFireX Ready
M.2 SSD: None
Freebies: None
INTERNAL PCI­ESSD CARD: None
Hard Drive: 1TB SATA­III 6.0Gb/s 32MB Cache 7200RPM HDD (Single Drive)
Freebies: None
Secondary Hard Drive: None
Hard Drive Cooling Fan: None
External Storage: None
Optical Drive: None
Optical Drive 2: None
External Optical Drive: None
WiDi Router: None
Internal Wireless Network Card: None
Sound: HIGH DEFINITION ON­BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
LCD Monitor: None
Cables: None
Speakers: None
Internal Network Card: Onboard Gigabit LAN Netw ork
Keyboard: Cyberpow erPC Multimedia USB Gaming Keyboard
Mouse: Cyberpow erPC Standard 4000 DPI w ith Weight System Optical Gaming Mouse
Mouse Pad: None
Headset: None
Gaming Apparel: None
Website: www.cyberpowerpc.com
Call Us at: (800) 707­0393
6/14/2017 CyberPowerPC Inc
https://www.cyberpowerpc.com/saving/print.aspx 2/2
Gaming Apparel: None
Gaming Gear: None
Internal USB Expansion Module: None
External Wireless Network Card: None
Wireless Routers/Hubs: None
Docking Station: None
Bluetooth: None
Flash Media Reader/Writer: None
Video Camera: None
Power & Surge Protection: None
USB Hub & Port: Built­in USB 2.0 Ports
External USB ADAPTER: None
Operating System: None ­ FORMAT HARD DRIVEONLY
Security Software: None
Professional Wiring: None
Ultra Care Option: None
Warranty: STANDARD WARRANTY: 1 Year Parts WARRANTY
Service: 3 Years FREEService Plan (INCLUDES LABOR AND LIFETIMETECHNICAL SUPPORT)
Rush Service: Standard processing time: ship w ithin 5 to 10 Business Days
*_PRICE: (+1682)

That is but one example. What are we missing here? When I look to my RAM I get Corsair or major brand from Cyberpower. When I build it myself I get

G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory

I could go on but of course you will provide us proof of your assertions so this list will be made moot.

Hey,
Thanks so much for taking the time to do that for me, I really appreciate it! However, I do not know why it says taxes are included in the prices because its not. I just checked some parts and some like the GTX 1080 from Amazon has an additional 8.8% tax because I'm in NYC. I am not sure is the other companies listed charge tax in NY but i'll check now.
Thanks again!

How do I provide the proof you mentioned? Is it possible to send a screenshot of the final price in the cart? I should also mention that I used a common promo code that gives you 5% off any order of $999 or more

That is but one example. What are we missing here? When I look to my RAM I get Corsair or major brand from Cyberpower. When I build it myself I get

G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory

I could go on but of course you will provide us proof of your assertions so this list will be made moot.

When it says "major name brand", I take that as a gigantic red flag. Because it's almost never a major name brand and it's almost always some OEM component that they buy in bulk. One of the reasons why Cyberpower and their sister company iBUYPOWER get so much flack is because of the fact that they don't include name brand components in critical areas like PSU, cooling, RAM, and storage. Instead it's almost always generic, bulk no name components that more than often wind up failing than succeeding.

So? You get what you pay for. Do you want to take a chance behind mystery door number or do you want to see what you're buying? I do not like those companies. I have seen more complaints than compliments such as you are offering here and here http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-3440710/missing.html . I've been offering PC advice since before Cyperpower was in diapers. Truth. A decade ago they were horrid. Now they are just USUALLY overpriced and fleece the ignorant when they get a chance. THey have earned a bad reputaion. Go visit the BBB. They have a good reputation over there. That's based on 122 customer reviews. 122? Okay and BBB's rating. 67%(BBB) User 33%). I haven't taken someone's word for it the same way I wouldn't accept your numbers at face value(which argues with your list which doesn't include tax which is more than what you said their out the door price was) I just have heard too much bad and seen too many times where there prices are higher.I am not fooling myself either.

 

[SMR_1_]

Since I never built a PC on my own before, if I decide to go that route can anyone recommend a good and easy to follow instructions for it? I mean, it does not appear to be very complicated but I would prefer to be on the safe side then risk messing something up

 

[SMR_1_]

When it says "major name brand", I take that as a gigantic red flag. Because it's almost never a major name brand and it's almost always some OEM component that they buy in bulk. One of the reasons why Cyberpower and their sister company iBUYPOWER get so much flack is because of the fact that they don't include name brand components in critical areas like PSU, cooling, RAM, and storage. Instead it's almost always generic, bulk no name components that more than often wind up failing than succeeding.

So? You get what you pay for. Do you want to take a chance behind mystery door number or do you want to see what you're buying? I do not like those companies. I have seen more complaints than compliments such as you are offering here and here http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-3440710/missing.html . I've been offering PC advice since before Cyperpower was in diapers. Truth. A decade ago they were horrid. Now they are just USUALLY overpriced and fleece the ignorant when they get a chance. THey have earned a bad reputaion. Go visit the BBB. They have a good reputation over there. That's based on 122 customer reviews. 122? Okay and BBB's rating. 67%(BBB) User 33%). I haven't taken someone's word for it the same way I wouldn't accept your numbers at face value(which argues with your list which doesn't include tax which is more than what you said their out the door price was) I just have heard too much bad and seen too many times where there prices are higher.I am not fooling myself either. [/quotemsg]

Not that it matters but I can prove the price if you'd like? Cyberpowerpc does not charge tax in NYC, the system free shipping and the promo code nb3 is 5% off any system over $999. I can also send a screenshot if you'd like.
I will probably not purchase from them anyway and stick with my gut because of all the horror stories I've read but I do not like people insinuating that I lied. What reason would I have to lie? So if theres a way to send a screenshot of the final price please tell me and I will to prove it!

 

[aquielisunari]

Since I never built a PC on my own before, if I decide to go that route can anyone recommend a good and easy to follow instructions for it? I mean, it does not appear to be very complicated but I would prefer to be on the safe side then risk messing something up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIF43-0mDk4

and

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhX0fOUYd8Q are two possible starting points.

NEVER assume anything. I have this RAM module right. What about just a wee bit more pressure? The manufacturer's make it simpler with a notch offset that the user lines up.

Look at your cable end. They are probably marked. There is a 4+4 CPU connection. There is a 6+2 PCIe supplementary power cable. They each = 8 😀. NO they do not mate. Yes, I have heard of people forcing them and then pop or nothing. There is an orientation mark on the CPU and on the socket where the CPU belongs. There are so many motherboard leads. They are marked as well and a diagram can be found in your motherboard's manual. There are specific how to install *************** GFX Card. Insert make and model before. Those can be short, sweet and informative. How to install this make and model RAM modules


Simply put, read the directions. Watch the videos. When in doubt read and or watch again.

Lastly. Please let us know the direction you took and how the build worked out for your needs. I love to see these questions come full circle.

 

[aquielisunari]

Not that it matters but I can prove the price if you'd like? Cyberpowerpc does not charge tax in NYC, the system free shipping and the promo code nb3 is 5% off any system over $999. I can also send a screenshot if you'd like.
I will probably not purchase from them anyway and stick with my gut because of all the horror stories I've read but I do not like people insinuating that I lied. What reason would I have to lie? So if theres a way to send a screenshot of the final price please tell me and I will to prove it!

There was not an insinuation. I only wanted to see a final price and yes a screenshot would work. BUT No tax, 5% off and black friday sales? That will put a fly in the soup. Will be an exception to the "rule".


Other people will see this. Anecdotal evidence will not help them.

 

[SMR_1_]

Since I never built a PC on my own before, if I decide to go that route can anyone recommend a good and easy to follow instructions for it? I mean, it does not appear to be very complicated but I would prefer to be on the safe side then risk messing something up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIF43-0mDk4

and

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhX0fOUYd8Q are two possible starting points.

NEVER assume anything. I have this RAM module right. What about just a wee bit more pressure? The manufacturer's make it simpler with a notch offset that the user lines up.

Look at your cable end. They are probably marked. There is a 4+4 CPU connection. There is a 6+2 PCIe supplementary power cable. They each = 8 😀. NO they do not mate. Yes, I have heard of people forcing them and then pop or nothing. There is an orientation mark on the CPU and on the socket where the CPU belongs. There are so many motherboard leads. They are marked as well and a diagram can be found in your motherboard's manual. There are specific how to install *************** GFX Card. Insert make and model before. Those can be short, sweet and informative. How to install this make and model RAM modules


Simply put, read the directions. Watch the videos. When in doubt read and or watch again.

Lastly. Please let us know the direction you took and how the build worked out for your needs. I love to see these questions come full circle.

Thank you so much! I definitely will keep you updated!

 

[SMR_1_]

There was not an insinuation. I only wanted to see a final price and yes a screenshot would work. BUT No tax, 5% off and black friday sales? That will put a fly in the soup. Will be an exception to the "rule".


Other people will see this. Anecdotal evidence will not help them.

Not a black Friday sale, something called dads & grads sale but yes, the no tax in NY and additional 5% promo code nb3 is correct. How do I add a screenshot to this thread?

 

[USAFRet]

Detailed instructions on posting images on Tom's hardware.
http://www.tomshardware.com/faq/id-2580030/detailed-instructions-posting-images-tom-hardware.html

 

[aquielisunari]

When you make a reply just click on that polaroid up there

and post a link from a pic sharing site. The url needs to end with jpg, bmp, png or other pic extension.

 

[SMR_1_]

With the dads & grads sale going on it changes daily. The other day when I did the configuration it was a free upgrade to 16GB ddr4 but today its a free additional 240gb WD SSD Green instead of the free upgrade for the ram so the price is a little different but all other specs are the same as before

 

[SMR_1_]

I added a screenshot but don't see it? Here is the link https://postimg.org/image/p6h7zsa8z/
The out the door price now is $1496.25

 

[aquielisunari]

With the dads & grads sale going on it changes daily. The other day when I did the configuration it was a free upgrade to 16GB ddr4 but today its a free additional 240gb WD SSD Green instead of the free upgrade for the ram so the price is a little different but all other specs are the same as before

Did you post a pic? I used the image sharing site Postimage.org My url ended with png https://s5.postimg.org/sgpwvgr3r/postpic.png which when pasted into the resulting box that appears when one clicks that polaroid makes this

show within the post.

 

[SMR_1_]

With the dads & grads sale going on it changes daily. The other day when I did the configuration it was a free upgrade to 16GB ddr4 but today its a free additional 240gb WD SSD Green instead of the free upgrade for the ram so the price is a little different but all other specs are the same as before

Did you post a pic? I used the image sharing site Postimage.org My url ended with png https://s5.postimg.org/sgpwvgr3r/postpic.png which when pasted into the resulting box that appears when one clicks that polaroid makes this

show within the post.

I did add a screenshot but its not showing up for some reason so I added the link to the screenshot instead. Here it is again, https://postimg.org/image/p6h7zsa8z/

 

[aquielisunari]

I added a screenshot but don't see it? Here is the link https://postimg.org/image/p6h7zsa8z/
The out the door price now is $1496.25

Nice price. Your pic also shows a window into another mystery product. GTX 1070 founders edition? From which 3rd party manufacturer? Straight from Nvidia? If I upgrade to a founders edition it will be from Zotac. I will know the warranty window and everything about the product before I buy it. But it will be a 1080 Ti.

Do 100% of the people get fleeced? No. Might that PC work out for your? Yes. Do I recommend Cyberpower? No. How long is the warranty for? It's only for a year. They will only stand behind their product for a year. Most of my PC is covered for at least 3 years. So when their warranty runs out I guess the remainder of the manufacturer's warranty still applies. Not sure.

I do wish you luck on your journey. You've started off on the right foot. Questioning what "they" say. Also, going with your gut seems smart as well. Let us know how it works out please.