Build Advice New PC (Rate this build!) Any recommended changes ?

[FlewDesigns]

Approximate Purchase Date: ASAP

(But I intend to just buy everything without the GPU so i can get the 5000 series when it comes out soon. For now i will put in my 1080ti)

Budget Range: £4000-£6000

System Usage from Most to Least Important: 3D High level Rendering / Simulation work / Heavy Ram Usage and GPU/CPU power required so threadripper most probably?
Apps:
Maya/Vray
Houdini
Unreal Engine
Photoshop
AfterEffects
Illustrator
Gaming


Main question: Would you choose anything different? (ideally i would get a better looking CPU cooler than below as its ugly in the brown, Looking at all black with RGBs on certain parts. Black and orange vibe.

Case: I want perfect performance case but also want it to look half decent with side glass panel at the least. Mid or Large case? quite fancy this one? How does it compare to the provided one? https://www.amazon.co.uk/Fractal-De...ZZB?ref=dlx_prime_dg_dcl_B0CJCJ3ZZB_dt_sl7_0d

PC PART LIST (Suggested by @helper800 King Dranzer)
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/8YycQP

AMD Ryzen Threadripper 7970X					£2194.08
Motherboard			GIGABYTE TRX50 AERO D					£510.09
Memory			G.SKILL Zeta R5 NEO DDR5 RAM 128GB (4x32gb)					£687.53
Storage			Crucial P3 Plus 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive	£192.99		FREE		£192.99		Buy
Storage			Crucial T500 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive	£134.97				£134.97		Buy
Storage			Crucial T705 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 5.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive	£170.22		FREE		£170.22		Buy
Video Card			MSI GAMING X TRIO GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB Video Card	£1016.00				£1016.00		Buy
Case			be quiet! Silent Base 802 ATX Mid Tower Case	£169.99		£7.99		£177.98		Buy
Power Supply			be quiet! Dark Power 13 1000 W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	£219.95		£3.99		£223.94		Buy
Operating System			Microsoft Windows 11 Pro Retail - Download 64-bit	£169.15		FREE		£169.15		Buy
Custom			Noctua NH-U14S TR5-SP6 premium quality quiet 140mm CPU cooler for AMD Threadripper (sTRX5/sWRX9) and Epyc 8004 (SP6)

 

[King Dranzer]

Approximate Purchase Date: ASAP

(But I intend to just buy everything without the GPU so i can get the 5000 series when it comes out soon. For now i will put in my 1080ti)

Budget Range: £4000-£6000

System Usage from Most to Least Important: 3D High level Rendering / Simulation work / Heavy Ram Usage and GPU/CPU power required so threadripper most probably?
Apps:
Maya/Vray
Houdini
Unreal Engine
Photoshop
AfterEffects
Illustrator
Gaming


Main question: Would you choose anything different? (ideally i would get a better looking CPU cooler than below as its ugly in the brown, Looking at all black with RGBs on certain parts. Black and orange vibe.

Case: I want perfect performance case but also want it to look half decent with side glass panel at the least. Mid or Large case? quite fancy this one? How does it compare to the provided one? https://www.amazon.co.uk/Fractal-De...ZZB?ref=dlx_prime_dg_dcl_B0CJCJ3ZZB_dt_sl7_0d

PC PART LIST (Suggested by King Dranzer)
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/8YycQP

AMD Ryzen Threadripper 7970X					£2194.08
Motherboard			GIGABYTE TRX50 AERO D					£510.09
Memory			G.SKILL Zeta R5 NEO DDR5 RAM 128GB (4x32gb)					£687.53
Storage			Crucial P3 Plus 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive	£192.99		FREE		£192.99		Buy
Storage			Crucial T500 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive	£134.97				£134.97		Buy
Storage			Crucial T705 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 5.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive	£170.22		FREE		£170.22		Buy
Video Card			MSI GAMING X TRIO GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB Video Card	£1016.00				£1016.00		Buy
Case			be quiet! Silent Base 802 ATX Mid Tower Case	£169.99		£7.99		£177.98		Buy
Power Supply			be quiet! Dark Power 13 1000 W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	£219.95		£3.99		£223.94		Buy
Operating System			Microsoft Windows 11 Pro Retail - Download 64-bit	£169.15		FREE		£169.15		Buy
Custom			Noctua NH-U14S TR5-SP6 premium quality quiet 140mm CPU cooler for AMD Threadripper (sTRX5/sWRX9) and Epyc 8004 (SP6)

After checking all the Software you listed there is only one that benefits to some extent with Threadripper and that is Unreal Engine. But to be honest the gap will close down when X9950X3D CPU drops. So yeah wait for it. See Threadripper is not worth the extra cost at all specially when majority of workload you listed is GPU dependent. Even Unreal Engine also depends greatly on the GPU too and scales well. So yeah better option will Ryzen 9950X/9950X3D + RTX4090/RTX5090 Combo.

Would recommend sticking to Corsair PSU. For its quality and AS Support.

Would best if you get only 1 SSD for internal storage a high capacity one if needed and go for external storage. No need of multiple Internal drives.

 

[helper800]

I was the one that suggested this build at your request of a Threadripper CPU. My first initial build was a 9950x based build with a 4090. I also suggested waiting for Nvidia 5000 GPUs for performance. The initial build I recommended was this:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X 4.3 GHz 16-Core Processor (£586.99 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Elite CPU Cooler (£101.55 @ NeoComputers)
Motherboard: ASRock Phantom Gaming X870E Nova WiFi ATX AM5 Motherboard (£339.98 @ AWD-IT)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 96 GB (2 x 48 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory (£331.88 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial T705 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 5.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (£175.99 @ MoreCoCo)
Storage: Crucial T500 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (£134.97 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial P3 Plus 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (£192.99 @ Ebuyer)
Video Card: Gigabyte WINDFORCE V2 GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card (£1749.00 @ Computer Orbit)
Case: be quiet! Silent Base 802 ATX Mid Tower Case (£177.98 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Power Supply: be quiet! Dark Power 13 1000 W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£223.94 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 11 Pro Retail - Download 64-bit (£169.15 @ Senetic)
Total: £4184.42
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-10-09 22:21 BST+0100

 

[King Dranzer]

I was the one that suggested this build at your request of a Threadripper CPU. My first initial build was a 9950x based build with a 4090. I also suggested waiting for Nvidia 5000 GPUs for performance. The initial build I recommended was this:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X 4.3 GHz 16-Core Processor (£586.99 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Elite CPU Cooler (£101.55 @ NeoComputers)
Motherboard: ASRock Phantom Gaming X870E Nova WiFi ATX AM5 Motherboard (£339.98 @ AWD-IT)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 96 GB (2 x 48 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory (£331.88 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial T705 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 5.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (£175.99 @ MoreCoCo)
Storage: Crucial T500 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (£134.97 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial P3 Plus 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (£192.99 @ Ebuyer)
Video Card: Gigabyte WINDFORCE V2 GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card (£1749.00 @ Computer Orbit)
Case: be quiet! Silent Base 802 ATX Mid Tower Case (£177.98 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Power Supply: be quiet! Dark Power 13 1000 W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£223.94 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 11 Pro Retail - Download 64-bit (£169.15 @ Senetic)
Total: £4184.42
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-10-09 22:21 BST+0100

Yes it be better if he waits it out a bit. RTX5090 is coming which will surely be a huge jump in performance. And now even the X3D CPUs seem to be performing decently in both Single as well as Multi-threaded workload. So it will be interesting to see how it performs in Pro realm.

 

[FlewDesigns]

I was the one that suggested this build at your request of a Threadripper CPU. My first initial build was a 9950x based build with a 4090. I also suggested waiting for Nvidia 5000 GPUs for performance. The initial build I recommended was this:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X 4.3 GHz 16-Core Processor (£586.99 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Elite CPU Cooler (£101.55 @ NeoComputers)
Motherboard: ASRock Phantom Gaming X870E Nova WiFi ATX AM5 Motherboard (£339.98 @ AWD-IT)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 96 GB (2 x 48 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory (£331.88 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial T705 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 5.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (£175.99 @ MoreCoCo)
Storage: Crucial T500 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (£134.97 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial P3 Plus 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (£192.99 @ Ebuyer)
Video Card: Gigabyte WINDFORCE V2 GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card (£1749.00 @ Computer Orbit)
Case: be quiet! Silent Base 802 ATX Mid Tower Case (£177.98 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Power Supply: be quiet! Dark Power 13 1000 W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£223.94 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 11 Pro Retail - Download 64-bit (£169.15 @ Senetic)
Total: £4184.42
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-10-09 22:21 BST+0100

AHH apologies. Think both of you helped me a a lot.

Do you not think the thread ripper would be better? Thanks

 

[helper800]

AHH apologies. Think both of you helped me a a lot.

Do you not think the thread ripper would be better? Thanks

Most of the applications you use would benefit greatly from a higher powered graphics, but that does not mean that you would get no benefit from more threads. With Threadripper you sacrifice a bit of single threaded performance for much more threaded performance. Any program that cannot take advantage of a ton of multithreading will be slightly worse off with a threadripper. The initial 9950x build I posted would be better suited to your needs as you have laid them out. I would still get that 9950x system with a cheaper graphics card until the Nvidia 5000 cards release and get a 5090. something like this with a lower cost card:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X 4.3 GHz 16-Core Processor (£586.99 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Elite CPU Cooler (£101.55 @ NeoComputers)
Motherboard: ASRock Phantom Gaming X870E Nova WiFi ATX AM5 Motherboard (£339.98 @ AWD-IT)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 96 GB (2 x 48 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory (£331.88 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial T705 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 5.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (£179.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial T500 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (£134.97 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial P3 Plus 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (£192.99 @ Ebuyer)
Video Card: Zotac GAMING Twin Edge GeForce RTX 4060 Ti 16 GB Video Card (£393.98 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Case: be quiet! Silent Base 802 ATX Mid Tower Case (£169.95 @ AWD-IT)
Power Supply: be quiet! Dark Power 13 1000 W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£223.94 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 11 Pro Retail - Download 64-bit (£169.01 @ Senetic)
Total: £2825.22
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-10-10 16:24 BST+0100

 

[FlewDesigns]

Most of the applications you use would benefit greatly from a higher powered graphics, but that does not mean that you would get no benefit from more threads. With Threadripper you sacrifice a bit of single threaded performance for much more threaded performance. Any program that cannot take advantage of a ton of multithreading will be slightly worse off with a threadripper. The initial 9950x build I posted would be better suited to your needs as you have laid them out. I would still get that 9950x system with a cheaper graphics card until the Nvidia 5000 cards release and get a 5090. something like this with a lower cost card:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X 4.3 GHz 16-Core Processor (£586.99 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Elite CPU Cooler (£101.55 @ NeoComputers)
Motherboard: ASRock Phantom Gaming X870E Nova WiFi ATX AM5 Motherboard (£339.98 @ AWD-IT)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 96 GB (2 x 48 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory (£331.88 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial T705 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 5.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (£179.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial T500 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (£134.97 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial P3 Plus 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (£192.99 @ Ebuyer)
Video Card: Zotac GAMING Twin Edge GeForce RTX 4060 Ti 16 GB Video Card (£393.98 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Case: be quiet! Silent Base 802 ATX Mid Tower Case (£169.95 @ AWD-IT)
Power Supply: be quiet! Dark Power 13 1000 W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£223.94 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 11 Pro Retail - Download 64-bit (£169.01 @ Senetic)
Total: £2825.22
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-10-10 16:24 BST+0100

Ah interesting! Thats the question im unsure of, I want to do simulations which i know go more on the core speed so the 4.3GHZ would be good for that. It would save me quite a bit too!. Are you sure the i9 intel chips are not more reliable/less heat etc? i built one recently for a friend with the Ryzen 3D 7000 chip and his overheats a little with the 4090 card so just wondering if you think the 5090 would do the same with the 9950?.

I was also thinking 128gb ram not 96?.

Thoughts? Thanks

 

[helper800]

Ah interesting! Thats the question im unsure of, I want to do simulations which i know go more on the core speed so the 4.3GHZ would be good for that. It would save me quite a bit too!. Are you sure the i9 intel chips are not more reliable/less heat etc? i built one recently for a friend with the Ryzen 3D 7000 chip and his overheats a little with the 4090 card so just wondering if you think the 5090 would do the same with the 9950?.

I was also thinking 128gb ram not 96?.

Thoughts? Thanks

Intel is not a reliable platform right now and would lose to the 9950x in a lot of workloads. They also boost pretty high (5ghz+). The 9950x is much easier to cool than any of the Intel equivalents. 128gb of RAM would work fine as well, however, memory compatibility and speed go way down if you get a kit with more than 2 sticks. The only viable kit that is on the motherboards' QVL list is this one. I just put in the highest value per dollar kit i could find at the time with good speed and timings and was 2 sticks.

 

[King Dranzer]

Intel is not a reliable platform right now and would lose to the 9950x in a lot of workloads. They also boost pretty high (5ghz+). The 9950x is much easier to cool than any of the Intel equivalents. 128gb of RAM would work fine as well, however, memory compatibility and speed go way down if you get a kit with more than 2 sticks. The only viable kit that is on the motherboards' QVL list is this one. I just put in the highest value per dollar kit i could find at the time with good speed and timings and was 2 sticks.

☝️
@FlewDesigns As mentioned above. Stay away from Intel for now. Go for AMD. Intel having a lot of Reliability issues.

 

[FlewDesigns]

Intel is not a reliable platform right now and would lose to the 9950x in a lot of workloads. They also boost pretty high (5ghz+). The 9950x is much easier to cool than any of the Intel equivalents. 128gb of RAM would work fine as well, however, memory compatibility and speed go way down if you get a kit with more than 2 sticks. The only viable kit that is on the motherboards' QVL list is this one. I just put in the highest value per dollar kit i could find at the time with good speed and timings and was 2 sticks.

Ah okay sounds good!. ill try and find 2x 64gb ram. im thinking this case, not sure if this will have any impact on airflow, just like the design https://www.amazon.co.uk/Fractal-De...ZZB?ref=dlx_prime_dg_dcl_B0CJCJ3ZZB_dt_sl7_0d

 

[helper800]

Ah okay sounds good!. ill try and find 2x 64gb ram. im thinking this case, not sure if this will have any impact on airflow, just like the design https://www.amazon.co.uk/Fractal-De...ZZB?ref=dlx_prime_dg_dcl_B0CJCJ3ZZB_dt_sl7_0d

There are no 2x64gb kits that can be supported. Maximum supported density is 48gb sticks as far as I am aware. That case is okay enough, but it will not perform as well as most current airflow case's. You also have to take into account its length compatibility with graphics cards. We do not know how long a 5090 will be but if the 4090's are anything to go by (330mm+) this case will be a tight squeeze.

Maximum Video Card Length​

• 300 mm / 11.811" With Drive Cages
• 355 mm / 13.976" Without Drive Cages

 

[King Dranzer]

There are no 2x64gb kits that can be supported. Maximum supported density is 48gb sticks as far as I am aware. That case is okay enough, but it will not perform as well as most current airflow case's. You also have to take into account its length compatibility with graphics cards. We do not know how long a 5090 will be but if the 4090's are anything to go by (330mm+) this case will be a tight squeeze.

Maximum Video Card Length​

• 300 mm / 11.811" With Drive Cages
• 355 mm / 13.976" Without Drive Cages

Yeah GPUs growing to the point where they make decade old monster cases look like the ideal choice.

 

[FlewDesigns]

get a full case then XL? =)

 

[FlewDesigns]

There are no 2x64gb kits that can be supported. Maximum supported density is 48gb sticks as far as I am aware. That case is okay enough, but it will not perform as well as most current airflow case's. You also have to take into account its length compatibility with graphics cards. We do not know how long a 5090 will be but if the 4090's are anything to go by (330mm+) this case will be a tight squeeze.

Maximum Video Card Length​

• 300 mm / 11.811" With Drive Cages
• 355 mm / 13.976" Without Drive Cages

Thanks for the advice. =)

 

[FlewDesigns]

Most of the applications you use would benefit greatly from a higher powered graphics, but that does not mean that you would get no benefit from more threads. With Threadripper you sacrifice a bit of single threaded performance for much more threaded performance. Any program that cannot take advantage of a ton of multithreading will be slightly worse off with a threadripper. The initial 9950x build I posted would be better suited to your needs as you have laid them out. I would still get that 9950x system with a cheaper graphics card until the Nvidia 5000 cards release and get a 5090. something like this with a lower cost card:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X 4.3 GHz 16-Core Processor (£586.99 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Elite CPU Cooler (£101.55 @ NeoComputers)
Motherboard: ASRock Phantom Gaming X870E Nova WiFi ATX AM5 Motherboard (£339.98 @ AWD-IT)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 96 GB (2 x 48 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory (£331.88 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial T705 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 5.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (£179.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial T500 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (£134.97 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial P3 Plus 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (£192.99 @ Ebuyer)
Video Card: Zotac GAMING Twin Edge GeForce RTX 4060 Ti 16 GB Video Card (£393.98 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Case: be quiet! Silent Base 802 ATX Mid Tower Case (£169.95 @ AWD-IT)
Power Supply: be quiet! Dark Power 13 1000 W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£223.94 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 11 Pro Retail - Download 64-bit (£169.01 @ Senetic)
Total: £2825.22
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-10-10 16:24 BST+0100

Thanks for this,

For the Ram, could i just get 2x the 96gb ram sticks same brand etc? to make 192gb?
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product...x-48-gb-ddr5-6000-cl32-memory-kf560c32rsk2-96

lets say i went with this and got the 4060 TI, (sorry if i am being a bit stupid here but only built single GPU builds)... Would it be possible to just add in the 5090 alongside the 4060 when it comes out? Just wondering if i could utilise multiple GPUs here.. Or I have a 1080ti? And then if so do you think a full tower case? Or full tower case anyway just to make sure the 5000 fits?.

Thanks again.

 

[helper800]

Thanks for this,

For the Ram, could i just get 2x the 96gb ram sticks same brand etc? to make 192gb?
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product...x-48-gb-ddr5-6000-cl32-memory-kf560c32rsk2-96

No. RAM is sold in kits because the sticks are verified to work with each other. The motherboard also has to support the memory density as well. I am not sure any of the motherboards support 192gb specifically on AMD, but someone can chime in if that's not true.

lets say i went with this and got the 4060 TI, (sorry if i am being a bit stupid here but only built single GPU builds)... Would it be possible to just add in the 5090 alongside the 4060 when it comes out? Just wondering if i could utilise multiple GPUs here.. Or I have a 1080ti? And then if so do you think a full tower case? Or full tower case anyway just to make sure the 5000 fits?.

Thanks again.

You can just add in the 5090 but you would want to be sure you are using the correct card for what you intend. You will lose a lot of cooling potential for the 5090 because there is another card in the way of the 5090 fan intakes. Every case on PC part picker shows its supported GPU length, aim for something like 360mm without having to remove stuff from the case. There is an XL version of the Fractal North case apparently with support for super long graphics cards.

 

[FlewDesigns]

So! everyone think i should get the below?

The 9950x has 16 cores, any thoughts on what would be best for my 3d CG usage?

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 8 Core AM5 CPU/Processor​

AMD Ryzen™ 7 9800X3D, AM5, Zen 5, 8 Core, 16 Threads, 4.7GHz, 5.2GHz Turbo, 104MB Cache, PCIe 5.0, 120W, CPU​

 

[helper800]

So! everyone think i should get the below?

The 9950x has 16 cores, any thoughts on what would be best for my 3d CG usage?

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 8 Core AM5 CPU/Processor​

AMD Ryzen™ 7 9800X3D, AM5, Zen 5, 8 Core, 16 Threads, 4.7GHz, 5.2GHz Turbo, 104MB Cache, PCIe 5.0, 120W, CPU​

The 9800X3D is a gaming chip and while it could do the other things you want, it would be a huge sacrifice in power over the 9950X. IMO the 9950X is still the obvious choice.

 

[Why_Me]

Approximate Purchase Date: ASAP

(But I intend to just buy everything without the GPU so i can get the 5000 series when it comes out soon. For now i will put in my 1080ti)

Budget Range: £4000-£6000

System Usage from Most to Least Important: 3D High level Rendering / Simulation work / Heavy Ram Usage and GPU/CPU power required so threadripper most probably?
Apps:
Maya/Vray
Houdini
Unreal Engine
Photoshop
AfterEffects
Illustrator
Gaming


Main question: Would you choose anything different? (ideally i would get a better looking CPU cooler than below as its ugly in the brown, Looking at all black with RGBs on certain parts. Black and orange vibe.

Case: I want perfect performance case but also want it to look half decent with side glass panel at the least. Mid or Large case? quite fancy this one? How does it compare to the provided one? https://www.amazon.co.uk/Fractal-De...ZZB?ref=dlx_prime_dg_dcl_B0CJCJ3ZZB_dt_sl7_0d

PC PART LIST (Suggested by @helper800 King Dranzer)
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/8YycQP

Alternative:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core Ultra 9 285K 3.7 GHz 24-Core Processor (£554.98 @ Novatech)
CPU Cooler: *ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III 420 72.8 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (£71.59 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: *MSI MAG Z890 TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX LGA1851 Motherboard (£289.98 @ Amazon UK)
Case: *Lian Li LANCOOL III ATX Mid Tower Case (£139.00 @ Computer Orbit)
Total: £1055.55
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-11-12 20:13 GMT+0000

Intel Core Ultra 9 285K Review

Finally! Intel's new Arrow Lake architecture is launched. The new CPUs are full of design changes, like removal of Hyper-Threading, new Lion Cove P-Cores, an improved Thread Director and more. In our review we got surprising results that were both impressive and disappointing.

www.techpowerup.com

https://www.pcworld.com/article/249...pport-for-the-pcs-next-gen-memory-module.html

https://www.kingston.com/en/blog/system-builder/what-is-a-cudimm-csodimm

CUDIMM Explained: What it Means for Upcoming DDR5 Memory

CUDIMM is the latest development in RAM technology, and it comes with some exciting upgrades of standard UDIMM memory.

gamerant.com

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zE9Rg6wGvA

 

[King Dranzer]

So! everyone think i should get the below?

The 9950x has 16 cores, any thoughts on what would be best for my 3d CG usage?

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 8 Core AM5 CPU/Processor​

AMD Ryzen™ 7 9800X3D, AM5, Zen 5, 8 Core, 16 Threads, 4.7GHz, 5.2GHz Turbo, 104MB Cache, PCIe 5.0, 120W, CPU​

Ideally Ryzen 9 99500X3D gonna be the Best choice. Wait for it. 1.5months away. And even RTX5090 be announced at the same time if not sooner.

Both of those gonna be EXTREMELY Huge improvement over what we currently have. Absolutely be worth the wait.

 

[helper800]

Ideally Ryzen 9 99500X3D gonna be the Best choice. Wait for it. 1.5months away. And even RTX5090 be announced at the same time if not sooner.

Both of those gonna be EXTREMELY Huge improvement over what we currently have. Absolutely be worth the wait.

I really doubt there will be a meaningful benefit to getting the 9950X3D over the 9950X considering their use case. As for the graphics card, that would be worth waiting for, but in the meantime they can get a cheap graphics card and still have a PC to work with. This is the OPs list of priorities:

System Usage from Most to Least Important: 3D High level Rendering / Simulation work / Heavy Ram Usage and GPU/CPU power required so threadripper most probably?
Apps:
Maya/Vray
Houdini
Unreal Engine
Photoshop
AfterEffects
Illustrator
Gaming

Besides gaming, how many of those applications have any benefit from 3D v-cache? The answer is none, as far as I am aware. Waiting for the 9950X3D would be a considerable delay to the build and has questionable benefits over the 9950X.

Approximate Purchase Date: ASAP

 

[King Dranzer]

I really doubt there will be a meaningful benefit to getting the 9950X3D over the 9950X considering their use case. As for the graphics card, that would be worth waiting for, but in the meantime they can get a cheap graphics card and still have a PC to work with. This is the OPs list of priorities:

System Usage from Most to Least Important: 3D High level Rendering / Simulation work / Heavy Ram Usage and GPU/CPU power required so threadripper most probably?
Apps:
Maya/Vray
Houdini
Unreal Engine
Photoshop
AfterEffects
Illustrator
Gaming

Besides gaming, how many of those applications have any benefit from 3D v-cache? The answer is none, as far as I am aware. Waiting for the 9950X3D would be a considerable delay to the build and has questionable benefits over the 9950X.

Approximate Purchase Date: ASAP

There was one or two software that he listed benefited from higher core count last time. For those specific cases it be better if he can wait and get 9950X3D. Because unlike with last gen. This one will have really good performance boost over even regular 9950X. Because of that 3D v-cache. This close to the release I would like for him to wait if possible.


Yes Approximate Purchase Date: ASAP but when spending this kind of money and specially on work setup which is expected to get most out of it. It be worth the wait. But yes if unavoidable. Yeah 9800X3D be fine. Only go for it if unavoidable. If OP can wait that be the best.

 

[helper800]

There was one or two software that he listed benefited from higher core count last time. For those specific cases it be better if he can wait and get 9950X3D. Because unlike with last gen. This one will have really good performance boost over even regular 9950X. Because of that 3D v-cache. This close to the release I would like for him to wait if possible.


Yes Approximate Purchase Date: ASAP but when spending this kind of money and specially on work setup which is expected to get most out of it. It be worth the wait. But yes if unavoidable. Yeah 9800X3D be fine. Only go for it if unavoidable. If OP can wait that be the best.

I still do not understand how you get the notion that the 9950X3D will be any better than the 9950X in non cache related tasks? That is pure speculation, is it not?

 

[King Dranzer]

I still do not understand how you get the notion that the 9950X3D will be any better than the 9950X in non cache related tasks? That is pure speculation, is it not?

No there was something that he listed which when I checked the benchmarks. I saw 3D V-cache improved the performance. But also benefited from higher core count. Oh and I said it be better than 9950X because of its v-cache implementation where it takes benefit of that. I think it was that for stuff where v-cache helped it showed improvement there. And where cores matter it will perform there. So having both in the package is the best deal. Higher Core Count + larger capacity v-cache. I think that is what I was going for.

 

[helper800]

No there was something that he listed which when I checked the benchmarks. I saw 3D V-cache improved the performance. But also benefited from higher core count. Oh and I said it be better than 9950X because of its v-cache implementation where it takes benefit of that. I think it was that for stuff where v-cache helped it showed improvement there. And where cores matter it will perform there. So having both in the package is the best deal. Higher Core Count + larger capacity v-cache. I think that is what I was going for.

So you have nothing but pure speculation on a future product based on the 9800X3D's performance. The 9950X will very likely perform better in tasks than the 9950X3D when the cache is doing nothing but holding clocks back compared to the 9950X. Very few, if any, production applications in the use case can take advantage of the main benefit of increased cache, and even in those cases we cannot know by how much until reviews come out. The 9950X will be equal to, or better than a 9950X3D in everything that does not benefit from the 3D cache, and that is the most charitable way of putting it. Worst case for the 9950X vs the upcoming 9950X3D would be cache sensitive work load, and the non-X3D part will probably do nearly as well in those tasks. All we can do is wait for reviews. The OP needs a PC ASAP and the meager gains in very few use cases over the 9950X don't warrant more than a month of waiting IMO.