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[FlewDesigns]

Approximate Purchase Date: ASAP

(But I intend to just buy everything without the GPU so i can get the 5000 series when it comes out soon. For now i will put in my 1080ti)

Budget Range: £4000-£6000

System Usage from Most to Least Important: 3D High level Rendering / Simulation work / Heavy Ram Usage and GPU/CPU power required so threadripper most probably?
Apps:
Maya/Vray
Houdini
Unreal Engine
Photoshop
AfterEffects
Illustrator
Gaming


Main question: Would you choose anything different? (ideally i would get a better looking CPU cooler than below as its ugly in the brown, Looking at all black with RGBs on certain parts. Black and orange vibe.

Case: I want perfect performance case but also want it to look half decent with side glass panel at the least. Mid or Large case? quite fancy this one? How does it compare to the provided one? https://www.amazon.co.uk/Fractal-De...ZZB?ref=dlx_prime_dg_dcl_B0CJCJ3ZZB_dt_sl7_0d

PC PART LIST (Suggested by @helper800 King Dranzer)
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/8YycQP

AMD Ryzen Threadripper 7970X					£2194.08
Motherboard			GIGABYTE TRX50 AERO D					£510.09
Memory			G.SKILL Zeta R5 NEO DDR5 RAM 128GB (4x32gb)					£687.53
Storage			Crucial P3 Plus 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive	£192.99		FREE		£192.99		Buy
Storage			Crucial T500 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive	£134.97				£134.97		Buy
Storage			Crucial T705 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 5.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive	£170.22		FREE		£170.22		Buy
Video Card			MSI GAMING X TRIO GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB Video Card	£1016.00				£1016.00		Buy
Case			be quiet! Silent Base 802 ATX Mid Tower Case	£169.99		£7.99		£177.98		Buy
Power Supply			be quiet! Dark Power 13 1000 W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	£219.95		£3.99		£223.94		Buy
Operating System			Microsoft Windows 11 Pro Retail - Download 64-bit	£169.15		FREE		£169.15		Buy
Custom			Noctua NH-U14S TR5-SP6 premium quality quiet 140mm CPU cooler for AMD Threadripper (sTRX5/sWRX9) and Epyc 8004 (SP6)

 

[King Dranzer]

Approximate Purchase Date: ASAP

(But I intend to just buy everything without the GPU so i can get the 5000 series when it comes out soon. For now i will put in my 1080ti)

Budget Range: £4000-£6000

System Usage from Most to Least Important: 3D High level Rendering / Simulation work / Heavy Ram Usage and GPU/CPU power required so threadripper most probably?
Apps:
Maya/Vray
Houdini
Unreal Engine
Photoshop
AfterEffects
Illustrator
Gaming


Main question: Would you choose anything different? (ideally i would get a better looking CPU cooler than below as its ugly in the brown, Looking at all black with RGBs on certain parts. Black and orange vibe.

Case: I want perfect performance case but also want it to look half decent with side glass panel at the least. Mid or Large case? quite fancy this one? How does it compare to the provided one? https://www.amazon.co.uk/Fractal-De...ZZB?ref=dlx_prime_dg_dcl_B0CJCJ3ZZB_dt_sl7_0d

PC PART LIST (Suggested by King Dranzer)
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/8YycQP

AMD Ryzen Threadripper 7970X					£2194.08
Motherboard			GIGABYTE TRX50 AERO D					£510.09
Memory			G.SKILL Zeta R5 NEO DDR5 RAM 128GB (4x32gb)					£687.53
Storage			Crucial P3 Plus 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive	£192.99		FREE		£192.99		Buy
Storage			Crucial T500 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive	£134.97				£134.97		Buy
Storage			Crucial T705 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 5.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive	£170.22		FREE		£170.22		Buy
Video Card			MSI GAMING X TRIO GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB Video Card	£1016.00				£1016.00		Buy
Case			be quiet! Silent Base 802 ATX Mid Tower Case	£169.99		£7.99		£177.98		Buy
Power Supply			be quiet! Dark Power 13 1000 W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	£219.95		£3.99		£223.94		Buy
Operating System			Microsoft Windows 11 Pro Retail - Download 64-bit	£169.15		FREE		£169.15		Buy
Custom			Noctua NH-U14S TR5-SP6 premium quality quiet 140mm CPU cooler for AMD Threadripper (sTRX5/sWRX9) and Epyc 8004 (SP6)

After checking all the Software you listed there is only one that benefits to some extent with Threadripper and that is Unreal Engine. But to be honest the gap will close down when X9950X3D CPU drops. So yeah wait for it. See Threadripper is not worth the extra cost at all specially when majority of workload you listed is GPU dependent. Even Unreal Engine also depends greatly on the GPU too and scales well. So yeah better option will Ryzen 9950X/9950X3D + RTX4090/RTX5090 Combo.

Would recommend sticking to Corsair PSU. For its quality and AS Support.

Would best if you get only 1 SSD for internal storage a high capacity one if needed and go for external storage. No need of multiple Internal drives.

 

[helper800]

I was the one that suggested this build at your request of a Threadripper CPU. My first initial build was a 9950x based build with a 4090. I also suggested waiting for Nvidia 5000 GPUs for performance. The initial build I recommended was this:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X 4.3 GHz 16-Core Processor (£586.99 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Elite CPU Cooler (£101.55 @ NeoComputers)
Motherboard: ASRock Phantom Gaming X870E Nova WiFi ATX AM5 Motherboard (£339.98 @ AWD-IT)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 96 GB (2 x 48 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory (£331.88 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial T705 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 5.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (£175.99 @ MoreCoCo)
Storage: Crucial T500 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (£134.97 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial P3 Plus 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (£192.99 @ Ebuyer)
Video Card: Gigabyte WINDFORCE V2 GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card (£1749.00 @ Computer Orbit)
Case: be quiet! Silent Base 802 ATX Mid Tower Case (£177.98 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Power Supply: be quiet! Dark Power 13 1000 W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£223.94 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 11 Pro Retail - Download 64-bit (£169.15 @ Senetic)
Total: £4184.42
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-10-09 22:21 BST+0100

 

[King Dranzer]

I was the one that suggested this build at your request of a Threadripper CPU. My first initial build was a 9950x based build with a 4090. I also suggested waiting for Nvidia 5000 GPUs for performance. The initial build I recommended was this:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X 4.3 GHz 16-Core Processor (£586.99 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Elite CPU Cooler (£101.55 @ NeoComputers)
Motherboard: ASRock Phantom Gaming X870E Nova WiFi ATX AM5 Motherboard (£339.98 @ AWD-IT)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 96 GB (2 x 48 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory (£331.88 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial T705 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 5.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (£175.99 @ MoreCoCo)
Storage: Crucial T500 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (£134.97 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial P3 Plus 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (£192.99 @ Ebuyer)
Video Card: Gigabyte WINDFORCE V2 GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card (£1749.00 @ Computer Orbit)
Case: be quiet! Silent Base 802 ATX Mid Tower Case (£177.98 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Power Supply: be quiet! Dark Power 13 1000 W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£223.94 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 11 Pro Retail - Download 64-bit (£169.15 @ Senetic)
Total: £4184.42
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-10-09 22:21 BST+0100

Yes it be better if he waits it out a bit. RTX5090 is coming which will surely be a huge jump in performance. And now even the X3D CPUs seem to be performing decently in both Single as well as Multi-threaded workload. So it will be interesting to see how it performs in Pro realm.

 

[FlewDesigns]

I was the one that suggested this build at your request of a Threadripper CPU. My first initial build was a 9950x based build with a 4090. I also suggested waiting for Nvidia 5000 GPUs for performance. The initial build I recommended was this:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X 4.3 GHz 16-Core Processor (£586.99 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Elite CPU Cooler (£101.55 @ NeoComputers)
Motherboard: ASRock Phantom Gaming X870E Nova WiFi ATX AM5 Motherboard (£339.98 @ AWD-IT)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 96 GB (2 x 48 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory (£331.88 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial T705 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 5.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (£175.99 @ MoreCoCo)
Storage: Crucial T500 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (£134.97 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial P3 Plus 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (£192.99 @ Ebuyer)
Video Card: Gigabyte WINDFORCE V2 GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card (£1749.00 @ Computer Orbit)
Case: be quiet! Silent Base 802 ATX Mid Tower Case (£177.98 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Power Supply: be quiet! Dark Power 13 1000 W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£223.94 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 11 Pro Retail - Download 64-bit (£169.15 @ Senetic)
Total: £4184.42
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-10-09 22:21 BST+0100

AHH apologies. Think both of you helped me a a lot.

Do you not think the thread ripper would be better? Thanks

 

[helper800]

AHH apologies. Think both of you helped me a a lot.

Do you not think the thread ripper would be better? Thanks

Most of the applications you use would benefit greatly from a higher powered graphics, but that does not mean that you would get no benefit from more threads. With Threadripper you sacrifice a bit of single threaded performance for much more threaded performance. Any program that cannot take advantage of a ton of multithreading will be slightly worse off with a threadripper. The initial 9950x build I posted would be better suited to your needs as you have laid them out. I would still get that 9950x system with a cheaper graphics card until the Nvidia 5000 cards release and get a 5090. something like this with a lower cost card:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X 4.3 GHz 16-Core Processor (£586.99 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Elite CPU Cooler (£101.55 @ NeoComputers)
Motherboard: ASRock Phantom Gaming X870E Nova WiFi ATX AM5 Motherboard (£339.98 @ AWD-IT)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 96 GB (2 x 48 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory (£331.88 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial T705 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 5.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (£179.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial T500 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (£134.97 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial P3 Plus 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (£192.99 @ Ebuyer)
Video Card: Zotac GAMING Twin Edge GeForce RTX 4060 Ti 16 GB Video Card (£393.98 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Case: be quiet! Silent Base 802 ATX Mid Tower Case (£169.95 @ AWD-IT)
Power Supply: be quiet! Dark Power 13 1000 W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£223.94 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 11 Pro Retail - Download 64-bit (£169.01 @ Senetic)
Total: £2825.22
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-10-10 16:24 BST+0100

 

[FlewDesigns]

Most of the applications you use would benefit greatly from a higher powered graphics, but that does not mean that you would get no benefit from more threads. With Threadripper you sacrifice a bit of single threaded performance for much more threaded performance. Any program that cannot take advantage of a ton of multithreading will be slightly worse off with a threadripper. The initial 9950x build I posted would be better suited to your needs as you have laid them out. I would still get that 9950x system with a cheaper graphics card until the Nvidia 5000 cards release and get a 5090. something like this with a lower cost card:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X 4.3 GHz 16-Core Processor (£586.99 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Elite CPU Cooler (£101.55 @ NeoComputers)
Motherboard: ASRock Phantom Gaming X870E Nova WiFi ATX AM5 Motherboard (£339.98 @ AWD-IT)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 96 GB (2 x 48 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory (£331.88 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial T705 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 5.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (£179.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial T500 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (£134.97 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial P3 Plus 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (£192.99 @ Ebuyer)
Video Card: Zotac GAMING Twin Edge GeForce RTX 4060 Ti 16 GB Video Card (£393.98 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Case: be quiet! Silent Base 802 ATX Mid Tower Case (£169.95 @ AWD-IT)
Power Supply: be quiet! Dark Power 13 1000 W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£223.94 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 11 Pro Retail - Download 64-bit (£169.01 @ Senetic)
Total: £2825.22
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-10-10 16:24 BST+0100

Ah interesting! Thats the question im unsure of, I want to do simulations which i know go more on the core speed so the 4.3GHZ would be good for that. It would save me quite a bit too!. Are you sure the i9 intel chips are not more reliable/less heat etc? i built one recently for a friend with the Ryzen 3D 7000 chip and his overheats a little with the 4090 card so just wondering if you think the 5090 would do the same with the 9950?.

I was also thinking 128gb ram not 96?.

Thoughts? Thanks

 

[helper800]

Ah interesting! Thats the question im unsure of, I want to do simulations which i know go more on the core speed so the 4.3GHZ would be good for that. It would save me quite a bit too!. Are you sure the i9 intel chips are not more reliable/less heat etc? i built one recently for a friend with the Ryzen 3D 7000 chip and his overheats a little with the 4090 card so just wondering if you think the 5090 would do the same with the 9950?.

I was also thinking 128gb ram not 96?.

Thoughts? Thanks

Intel is not a reliable platform right now and would lose to the 9950x in a lot of workloads. They also boost pretty high (5ghz+). The 9950x is much easier to cool than any of the Intel equivalents. 128gb of RAM would work fine as well, however, memory compatibility and speed go way down if you get a kit with more than 2 sticks. The only viable kit that is on the motherboards' QVL list is this one. I just put in the highest value per dollar kit i could find at the time with good speed and timings and was 2 sticks.

 

[King Dranzer]

Intel is not a reliable platform right now and would lose to the 9950x in a lot of workloads. They also boost pretty high (5ghz+). The 9950x is much easier to cool than any of the Intel equivalents. 128gb of RAM would work fine as well, however, memory compatibility and speed go way down if you get a kit with more than 2 sticks. The only viable kit that is on the motherboards' QVL list is this one. I just put in the highest value per dollar kit i could find at the time with good speed and timings and was 2 sticks.

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@FlewDesigns As mentioned above. Stay away from Intel for now. Go for AMD. Intel having a lot of Reliability issues.

 

[FlewDesigns]

Intel is not a reliable platform right now and would lose to the 9950x in a lot of workloads. They also boost pretty high (5ghz+). The 9950x is much easier to cool than any of the Intel equivalents. 128gb of RAM would work fine as well, however, memory compatibility and speed go way down if you get a kit with more than 2 sticks. The only viable kit that is on the motherboards' QVL list is this one. I just put in the highest value per dollar kit i could find at the time with good speed and timings and was 2 sticks.

Ah okay sounds good!. ill try and find 2x 64gb ram. im thinking this case, not sure if this will have any impact on airflow, just like the design https://www.amazon.co.uk/Fractal-De...ZZB?ref=dlx_prime_dg_dcl_B0CJCJ3ZZB_dt_sl7_0d

 

[helper800]

Ah okay sounds good!. ill try and find 2x 64gb ram. im thinking this case, not sure if this will have any impact on airflow, just like the design https://www.amazon.co.uk/Fractal-De...ZZB?ref=dlx_prime_dg_dcl_B0CJCJ3ZZB_dt_sl7_0d

There are no 2x64gb kits that can be supported. Maximum supported density is 48gb sticks as far as I am aware. That case is okay enough, but it will not perform as well as most current airflow case's. You also have to take into account its length compatibility with graphics cards. We do not know how long a 5090 will be but if the 4090's are anything to go by (330mm+) this case will be a tight squeeze.

Maximum Video Card Length​

• 300 mm / 11.811" With Drive Cages
• 355 mm / 13.976" Without Drive Cages

 

[King Dranzer]

There are no 2x64gb kits that can be supported. Maximum supported density is 48gb sticks as far as I am aware. That case is okay enough, but it will not perform as well as most current airflow case's. You also have to take into account its length compatibility with graphics cards. We do not know how long a 5090 will be but if the 4090's are anything to go by (330mm+) this case will be a tight squeeze.

Maximum Video Card Length​

• 300 mm / 11.811" With Drive Cages
• 355 mm / 13.976" Without Drive Cages

Yeah GPUs growing to the point where they make decade old monster cases look like the ideal choice.

 

[FlewDesigns]

get a full case then XL? =)