Build Advice New Rig

[cAllen]

Morning folks. It's time for me to build a new system and it's been a while so all help will be appreciated.

Current build for reference:

x3380 @3.16 GHz
GA-EP45-UD3R (rev. 1.1)
GeForce GTX-295
8GB OCZ Reaper HPC DDR2-800 (4x2)
WD1002FBSY
1000W PC
Antec P182 case

It took me months to figure this build out back then because I was hardware stupid. That said, everything has changed since, so I'm right back to hardware stupid. The usage will be the normal everyday crap, games, connecting with work and some CAD...so basically does everything...but must be a solid, reliable 24/7/365 system. Currently running W7 Ult-64, Office 7 Ult, Adobe Master Suite 5.5, and all SOP s/w...but time to update there too.

P.S. I'm a Windows/Intel/NVIDIA guy...no exceptions. So let the beatings begin. 😉

Thank you.

 

[USAFRet]

That is a given, but that doesn't help me move these "files" over now. I respectfully and sincerely concede to your expertise in these matters...as you would me keeping Aircraft safe, maintained and flying reliable.

Well, I wouldn't necessarily concede on the Aircraft part.
I used to do that as well...😉

 

[cAllen]

Good for you. Anyways...back on target with my current fire...pretty please. 😉

 

[USAFRet]

Good for you. Anyways...back on target with my current fire...pretty please. 😉

So yeah....

Obtain a flash drive.
Start copying files from your old system.
Then, put that drive in the new system and copy to the relevant places.

Again, if you copy the whole Documents/Pictures/Video folders...you WILL run into permissions issues trying to access it in the new system.
If you DO do it that way, the term TakeOwnership is your friend.

But the eaasiest way is....Just the files within, not those Library folders.

 

[USAFRet]

For the permissions thing....

When you're on your PC, you see the Libraries, right?
Documents/Pictures/etc.
Those specific folders are tied to the current user, cAllen.

If you had a second user on that same system, cAllensMom, for instance....she would see and have access to a whole other set of Documents/Pictures/etc.
She would NOT see the files under the user cAllen.

Copy that Library, and that permission concept would carry over to the new PC.
Even if your username on the new PC is also cAllen. Windows and NTFS sees it as a different person and account.

 

[cAllen]

Only one "user" exists on/for the old box. It's the "house" box...and always has been that way.

Follow-up question. My helper last night suggested that if I have extra Sata connections in my new box I could just manually install my old HDD and start moving over 'files" directly, but that was not last nights priority so I did not bring my old box/HDD with me. Is this true and if so, what is the procedure?

 

[USAFRet]

Only one "user" exists on/for the old box. It's the "house" box...and always has been that way.

Follow-up question. My helper last night suggested that if I have extra Sata connections in my new box I could just manually install my old HDD and start moving over 'files" directly, but that was not last nights priority, so I did not bring my old box/HDD with me. Is that true and if so, what is the procedure?

Yes, one user.
Still has the Permissions thing.

Your helper is mostly wrong, specifically due to this Permissions thing.
The User in your new PC is a different User than in the old one. Even given the same username of cAllen (or whatever).

Can you do it? Yes, but that TakeOwnership thing comes into play.

How to Add “Take Ownership” to the Right-Click Menu in Windows Explorer

Taking ownership of files or folders in Windows is not simple. Both the GUI and command line take too many steps. Why not add a simple context menu command that lets you take ownership of any file or folder?

www.howtogeek.com

Again, the easiest way is a simple copy/paste with a flash drive or other external thing, and sneakernet to the new system.

 

[cAllen]

Advice taken. Now...how about moving saved e-mail files?...if I'm saying this correctly.

 

[USAFRet]

Advice taken. Now...how about moving saved to computer e-mail files?...if I'm saying this correctly.

That depends on what email client and service.

Which is....?

For instance, if you use MS Outlook, you can save the entire account to a .pst.
Copy that over, and the new Outlook client can see and import it.

Other services and tools have different functions.

 

[cAllen]

Still on AOL. Go ahead...I've heard it all before.

 

[USAFRet]

Still on AOL. Go ahead...I've heard it all before.

I too still have an AOL account.
I check it once or twice a year.
100% spam.

If you log onto your AOL account via the web interface, is it all there?

 

[cAllen]

Yes.

 

[USAFRet]

Yes.

Then nothing need be done from old PC to new.

On the new system, just log into it via the web interface.
Save locally as you did before.

 

[cAllen]

...and when we get to it, on the old box I'm using a Kaspersky Suite and Malwarebytes Premium...with exclusions for/in both to operate together on Windows 7. I had a lot of kickback doing this, but we got bit hard once and between the two I have stopped enough to keep from wearing out my old drive reformatting. With a then teenage Son, the Wife, a few quests and myself...next level security was required. You should see what we had to put on my Mother-In-Law's box. I do not now, nor will I ever trust Windows security as an end all solution.

 

[USAFRet]

...and when we get to it, on the old box I'm using a Kaspersky Suite and Malwarebytes Premium...with exclusions for/in both to operate together. I had a lot of kickback doing this, but we got bit hard once and between the two I have stopped enough to keep from wearing out my old drive reformatting. With a then teenage Son, the Wife, a few quests and myself...next level security was required. You should see what we had to put on my Mother-In-Law's box.

If you want to use that on the new system, you need to install on the new system.
You can't just transfer the installed thing over.

 

[cAllen]

I have the "legally" purchased and licensed keys for these...just have not closed and moved over yet. That's my last step so I can keep the old box safe until this is all done. So far...all downloads, software, drivers, ect...to the new box have been done on/through secured servers at work or MC.

 

[cAllen]

Is this correct guidance for moving Personal "Folders" to my storage drive and if so, is this advisable?

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3j4CHXnrUDc

 

[USAFRet]

Yes, but....

Know that you MUST make a folder on the target drive first. If you simple select "E:\"...bad things will happen.

But I've found this forced redirection to be not necessary anymore.
Windows and applications have gotten REALLY good at working with other drives and locations.

Simply save a document or file to some other location. The next time that application wants to save something, it will almost certainly default to that same location.

Plus, this forced redirection can make an OS reinstall much more complicated than it needs to be.

 

[cAllen]

Thanks. Proper back-ups and images sounds like the "better" solution. Should go live with the new rig this afternoon. 🤞

 

[USAFRet]

Thanks. Proper back-ups and images sounds like the "better" solution. Should go live with the new rig this afternoon. 🤞

I have 6x physical drives, each with their own (mostly) purpose.

OS+applications
Games
CAD
Photo
Video
Random junk

 

[cAllen]

👍

 

[cAllen]

As it applies to this build. All through out the process of loading software and drivers I witnesses no display issues using the HDMI port on the card (none of us have/had DP monitors). This MB does not have iGPU. While MC was doing the finals including moving over my personal files, I got a text saying he lost display, but later told me it was all better and he "suspected" the 12 pin connector to the 3090 Ti "might" have come loose(?) Anyway, brought her home after they finished and 2 days later I finally set it up on my desk with everything plugged in and it took 4 tries to get it to boot into Windows. During this time, the MSI Dragon would display with the Windows status circle that would freeze after a few seconds then the display goes blank/black. All audio, fans, lights, ect. indicated it was up and running. The one time she did boot into Windows everything worked great and I even got a score of 27556 on CB23 all core at 10 minutes. Rebooted and back to the same problem. No fault lights and a couple of random fault codes unrelated and I gave up for the night. Tried again after waking...same problem. However...I was and am always able to boot/display into bios on start up...everytime I tried. Needless to say, she's back at MC for warranty work and I won't get her back until we return home from Christmas. All Windows, MSI (with latest bios) and NVIDIA drivers including GeForce were installed. Does this sound a driver issue...or what?

Thanks.

 

[cAllen]

Just got back from MC and they proved she was working there. Bring it home...no joy. Did a search and it appears support for the HP h2408w monitor discontinued Windows 8. There is no HP driver support for Windows II and I'm not trusting 3rd party on this one just yet. Using one of the Wife's work monitors now and everything is good.

 

[cAllen]

C23 score, 10 minutes, all core hit 27667 with 5 of the 8 P-cores throttling at 100C. No tweaks...yet.

 

[cAllen]

To EVERYONE in here that directly or indirectly helped me put this new rig together...Thank You Very Much!

 

[cAllen]

Follow up question. I may change out my MSI board for an "identical" brand/model due to physical damage during assembly. Will I have to reload everything like I would if I changed it out with a "different" brand/model?

Thanks.