[citation][nom]rocky1234[/nom]oh yeah & almost forgot Novidia is also good for renaming the same chips several times to newer bigger names so they can trick the public into buying the same thing twice. Also just so everyone knows I used to be a huge Novidia fan up until this renaming crap they have been doing for the last 1.5 years & over charging for their products it was not until AMD/ATIcame out with a product that competed that Novidia brought their prices down & no they did not do it out of the goodness of their hearts for you the customers they did it because they were getting spanked in sales.[/citation]
I'd recommend you read some Adam Smith, and then take some economics 101, this way meybe you'll understand that no company does nothing "out of the goodness of their hearts".
And yes, Nvidia is acyually using better coolers now (they learned after the 8800 GT stock cooler fiasco), so yhea, they beated ati to that one.
As for the vapor(ware) cooler, if it's silent i'll welcome it with open arms (unless it's too expensive, of course)