Primary Hard Drive: 512GB Intel 660P M.2 NVME SSD + 3TB SATA III Hard Drive Combo (Combo Drive)
Secondary Hard Drive: 1TB WD Black SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 7200 RPM HDD (Plus 16GB Intel Optane Memory HDD Acceleration 18X Faster (Secondary Storage Drive))
Nothing wrong with that, we all start somewhereAs you figured out am not Mr. computer. I a senior and just want to get a good high end system. I hate "surfing" the net for information but other than a forum have no one to seek advise from. So that being said again thanks and any other information would be helpful.
No on the SSD and fresh windows install; excellent information from each; I guess time to start reading again and learning more. Computer about 8 years old and several things have failed; sound card; DVD and now issues with commands. Go to open a file and get the blue circle for 5/6 seconds then it just quits opening the file. Do right click then open and same issue. Open a different file then go to the open file and it works. Should have mentioned talking about excel/word.
Finally took it to the only option in my area (Best Buy) and they advised system built with Windows 7 and cheap parts. Windows 7 will have areas no longer supported by Microsoft. Expect more things to fail and best use of my money is to buy a new computer.
As you figured out am not Mr. computer. I a senior and just want to get a good high end system. I hate "surfing" the net for information but other than a forum have no one to seek advise from. So that being said again thanks and any other information would be helpful.
fIRST THANKS TO ALL FOR THE HELP; AGREE BEST TO BUY NEW; HAVE THE MONEY. LOOKING AT AN INTEL I7 9700K; MOTHERBOARD OPEN BUT LOTS OF GOOD ONES; A GeFORCE 270 VIDEO CARD ND BEST MAIN DRIVE I CAN FIND; SUGGESTIONS FOR A SECOND STORAGE DRIVE. FIGURE PROBABLY BEST TO WAIT UNTIL BLACK FRIDAY AND HAVE MORE THAN $1500 TO SPEND; $2500 OK.
REF OTHER ISSUES; DID THE MEMTEST AND ALL OK; RAN SOME TYPE OF WINDOWS TEST AS WAS SUGGESTED; TOOK FOREVER AND SAID WOULD GIVE TEST RESULTS ON A RESTART BUT NOTHING WAS THERE WHEN IT DID RESESTART
Thanks; what is the best type for the secondary hard drive?
CPU:Intel® Core™ Processor i7-9700K 3.60GHZ 12MB Intel Smart Cache LGA1151
CS_FAN:3X 120mm Case Fans for your selected case [+9]
FAN:Cooler Master Hyper 212 CPU Cooler w/ PWM fan - Efficient Cooling Performance [-5] (Hyper 212 EVO)
HDD:512GB Intel 660P M.2 NVME SSD + 3TB SATA III Hard Drive Combo [+65] (Combo Drive)
HDD2:1TB WD Black SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 7200 RPM HDD [+92] (Plus 16GB Intel Optane Memory HDD Acceleration 18X Faster (Secondary Storage Drive) [+29])
MEMORY:16GB (8GBx2) DDR4/4000MHz Dual Channel Memory [+150] (Corsair Vengeance RGB [+75])
MOTHERBOARD:GIGABYTE Z390 AORUS ULTRA ATX w/ Intel 802.11ac WiFi, ARGB, USB 3.1, 3 PCIe x16, 3 PCIe x1, 6 SATA3, 3 M.2 SATA/PCIe [+167]
NETWORK:Intel EXPI9301CTBLK Network Adapter 10/ 100/ 1000Mbps PCI-Express [+34]
POWERSUPPLY:800 Watts - Standard 80 Plus Gold Certified Power Supply
All I would add is asides cable management there is no real benefit to getting NVMe over SATA interface. Unless you are perhaps doing single large file transfers, other than that, they're only beneficial in artificial benchmarks, if a good quality SSD III is cheaper, I would just go for the cheaper option.These days, the common pattern is to have a super fast SSD (preferably NVMe M.2, not SATA) on which you would install Windows
Agreed, just make sure it is a good quality power supply. Not just any 650W.800 watts seems quite excessive for your build (for most builds, unless you have 2 or more graphics cards running together in SLI or CrossFire). I would get a 650W power supply. https://pcpartpicker.com/ will tell you how much power you will need for all your parts.
I would also undoubtedly choose a RX5700XT over the 2060 Super, basically better performance for less, unless you're streaming perhaps.You didn't mention a graphics card. For your build and assuming mid-level gaming, I would recommend an Nvidia RTX-2060 (or 2060 Super) based card. That should give you good value for money.
All I would add is asides cable management there is no real benefit to getting NVMe over SATA interface. Unless you are perhaps doing single large file transfers, other than that, they're only beneficial in artificial benchmarks, if a good quality SSD III is cheaper, I would just go for the cheaper option.
1 x M.2 connector (Socket 3, M key, type 2242/2260/2280/22110 SATA and PCIe x4/x2 SSD support) (M2M)
1 x M.2 connector (Socket 3, M key, type 2242/2260/2280/22110 SATA and PCIe x4/x2 SSD support) (M2A)
1 x M.2 connector (Socket 3, M key, type 2242/2260/2280 PCIe x4/x2 SSD support) (M2P)
Correct, but in real world application, it makes practically no difference - for example loads times of OS or applications, you'll either not notice a difference or notice less than 1 seconds difference (which will be barely noticeable). the M2 form factor is just beneficial for cable management, then the PCIe interface is maybe only better for single large data transfer, for gaming for example, it's a complete waste if you pay much more for it.Hmm. Correct me if I'm wrong, but some (or all?) NVMe M.2 drives are able to run in PCIe mode, right ? For example, https://www.newegg.com/samsung-970-...SIA12K8SS0241-_-1&Description=samsung+970+evo
This above drive could run in PCIe mode and be much faster than in SATA mode (provided the motherboard allows it ... which the OP's mobo does) ... no ?
Correct, but in real world application, it makes practically no difference - for example loads times of OS or applications, you'll either not notice a difference or notice less than 1 seconds difference (which will be barely noticeable). the M2 form factor is just beneficial for cable management, then the PCIe interface is maybe only better for single large data transfer, for gaming for example, it's a complete waste if you pay much more for it.
Benefit is some NVMe M2 (like the Intel 660) is excellent value for money.
Yes the PCIe bandwidth is still much higher, but the application still has to be able to use it - In artificial benchmarks and in theory, significantly better, in actual application (such as gaming), not so.
If you're doing large file transfer between 2 fast drives, maybe there is benefit.
USAFRet one of the resident experts does an excellent example here:
https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/nvme-vs-sata-iii.3500009/#post-21154076
Yes that's all - not shooting down all NVMe - just they're not worth the extra money if your application doesn't provide for it. But you're absolutely right that the 660p is excellent value for money, so with NVMe like that, there's often no reason to NOT get that it just won't bring any added benefit.Ah, gotcha ... I see your point. Yes, I agree that a lot of benchmarks are meaningless in that way.
You were also looking at it from the value for money point of view. Makes sense. The return provided by the NVMe card over the investment may not be worthwhile (compared to a standard SATA SSD).
the only real palce of benefit is when you're transferring large data from one NVMe to another NVMe so they can both have the same bandwidth
Yes, maybe the other option is movie / advanced graphical editing which is moving large amounts of data for the program rapidly could benefit, but it wouldn't be huge from my experience, as the zero access time is across all SSD drives. But again as you say, it's the minority of people in that bucket.... and ^ this is the only scenario in which the large sequential read/write speeds would actually come into play, right ? 3500 MB/s / 3300 MB/s for the Samsung 970 EVO Plus, for instance.
So, basically, copying huge files - either macOS app files (like Xcode app bundles which can be around 10GB) or massive Windows installers or super high-res video files. Or cloning an entire hard drive / doing a full backup ... from one such NVMe to another ... quite an unlikely scenario.
Sorry, we may have sidetracked slightly.Wow; you guys are awesome; I could spend the whole days reading (internet) and I would not have collected this much super information. Just super/super thans. I'll have to re-read several times the primary hard drive 1 and 2 suggestions to get it right.
Wow; you guys are awesome; I could spend the whole days reading (internet) and I would not have collected this much super information. Just super/super thans. I'll have to re-read several times the primary hard drive 1 and 2 suggestions to get it right.