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Standard return policy is for people who want to try a new board, then send it back because they don't like it. Standard return implies you are unhappy with the product and want to return it. This is a different case than asking for an RMA for a defective product.

I guess you have to agree on a standard definition for, "defective product."

Your, "known defects," are due to the nature of marketing mainboards in this fast-moving market. You, apparently do not choose stable products. This is your choice you made, so take responsibility for it. If you want stable and well-designed motherboards, stick with the models and brands that are known for stability. You are blaming the vendor for your choices.

You were, obviously sending a board back that you were not happy with. You call it a known defect, but, as I said, with stable bios settings and good ram the boards you sent back actually work. They just don't overclock the way you want them to.

I read forums all the time on specific models of boards. I learn what the issues are. I decide what kind of board I want. If I want to experiment with overclocking I know that it's partly a crap-shoot. You may get a good board, you may get a lemon. You might get a processor with a lot of headroom, you might get one that maxes out at just over stock. Certain configurations may not work. Some boards are finicky about the kind of ram you put in them. You find bios issues and have to wait for the board maker to write a new bios you have to download. There are all kinds of issues with a lot of different boards. Yes, in one way, you can say they are known defects. In my way of thinking, though, you are blaming the vendor where you should be kicking yourself for making a poor choice.

By the way, I read your review and all 210 other ones as well. One thing strikes me; how many people post that they were surprised that the ram voltage can only be set to 1.95; that there are issues with ram compatibility; that there is only one PATA connector. All these issues are known if you read about the board before you buy it! Do your research and do due diligence. Don't blame the vendor for your own poor choices.

Thanks for the "lesson". I guess the readers of this forum "understand" what you are trying to "explain" by now 😀

For the record: I don't need "lessons" on system building, voltage issues, BIOS, RAM selection, etc. (or anything related to electronics for that matter) I am porfessional system builder and part-time PC tech at a govt. institution which has computers with confgurations you (insightdriver) might not have even imagined/seen yet. I build systems for scientific research at work and music recording & editing/professional photography for friends.

BTW: Why do you make up things to explain the "fairy tale" you are trying to say? (like I am overclocking the systems, selecting wrong RAM's, use PATA HD's, and "redefine" NewEgg's refund policy, etc.?). One more thing: Like most other readers of this forum, I also know the difference between overclocking and underclocking better than you 😀

May be this (second post in the thread) will help you:

http://forumz.tomshardware.com/community/Newegg-mail-rebate-problems-ftopict19470.html

Just don't waste time posting useless essays to "cheerlead" somebody. :lol:

 

[insightdriver]

You refer to your post but it does not say what the defect was. You do imply that you sent numerous emails to Foxconn and at some point they refuse to answer them anymore. Why is that? What is the defect? Why does a reputable company like Foxconn stop answering a person's emails? How long did you have the board? What problem did you have with it? Was the defect so severe that you could not even boot the board? Was it that you have a difference of opinion with both New Egg and Foxconn and there is no middle ground you could reach with either of them?

As to your qualifications, why did you buy a board that, beforehand, if you did just a bit of due diligence, you could have found out it had issues? And with your qualifications, do you not know of any workarounds? Inquiring minds would like to know.

I came back to this after posting it. I don't mean to be harsh. All I know is that there are two sides to every story. You are in a small minority of dissatisfied customers of New Egg. What I have gathered from what you have posted (and I did follow all the links you provided so I could try to see what your issue is) is that you have spent a lot of money at New Egg so you weren't dissatisfied from the get-go. It seems that this particular transaction is what soured you.