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Via higher instructions per clock, in other words, higher efficiency. This has already happened many times. If every time more power was needed for more performance, CPUs would now sit at 20000W and not under 200W (for Ryzen).
AMD is going for 230W this round and that's going to be the stock non PBO setting, so in reality it's going to be more than that.
You guess why they do it, my guess would be because they need more power for more performance.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/a...zen-7000-power-specs-230w-peak-power-170w-tdp
 

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Is this supposed to be a bad thing? Competition produces innovation. When two companies compete, each company wants its product to be better than the other company's product, meaning they will be trying to make a product that is as good as possible.

Thanks to this kind of competition, computational power is growing rapidly.
Come on, now. 'This kind of competition' of power consumption be damned, as long as I win, is not healthy... kinda hints of desperate, or pushed into a corner.
3090Ti doesn't need 450w+ board power - it's still a beast, even with a 300w limit, but most people don't touch things like power limits or undervolting.
AMD's cards are on Nvidia's butt this gen, and even defeat them in some metrics, while using fractions less power to do so. Even their refined 6x50 models aren't demanding much more... yet, Nvidia's best products 'needing' up to 60% more power to crush AMD's best - they failed there - is a necessary evil or something?

AMD Vs Intel cpus? That scene looks much better.
The current gpu scene? What the crap...
 

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AMD is going for 230W this round and that's going to be the stock non PBO setting, so in reality it's going to be more than that.
You guess why they do it, my guess would be because they need more power for more performance.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/a...zen-7000-power-specs-230w-peak-power-170w-tdp
I don’t know about you but I’m talking about the present not the future and then I bet the CPU will often stay under 200W, this isn’t Intel. You will be surprised.
 
I don’t know about you but I’m talking about the present not the future and then I bet the CPU will often stay under 200W, this isn’t Intel. You will be surprised.
I don't know if you noticed what you are talking about because this whole topic is about future GPUs that haven't come out yet, so you are talking about the future and not the present.
Also all reviews for CPUs use prime95 small ffts to show power usage and that will show you the maximum power that the motherboard allows to reach the CPU, it doesn't matter if it's intel or AMD or anything else.
 

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I don't know if you noticed what you are talking about because this whole topic is about future GPUs that haven't come out yet, so you are talking about the future and not the present.
Also all reviews for CPUs use prime95 small ffts to show power usage and that will show you the maximum power that the motherboard allows to reach the CPU, it doesn't matter if it's intel or AMD or anything else.
Then it shifted to CPUs and I was firmly talking about the present and not the future, a topic shift is a topic shift and has nothing to do with the OT. Maybe you’re new to Internet forums or maybe you’re new to talking to „humans“ but I noticed you’re just here to smarta** anyway, so there’s nothing important about you or your misaligned posts.
Generally a lot of people here that behave like territorial cave men, they simply feel threatened by “new forces” that’s how nonsense like yours is produced. Suffice to say, you’re not winning anything against me, good luck next time.