Nighthawk R7000 & FIOS Gigabit Connection

[Abe_FX35]

Hello To all the Network people out there, im having some issues and i was wondering if anyone could give me some advice/opinions on what i need to do.

So i just moved into a new Townhouse, transferred my Veriozn FIOS Internet connection over to the new place, and during that process got upgraded to a "Gigabit connection" Internet speed. I am not using Verizons crap router i am using my own Netgear Nighthawk R7000 (the ONT box changed from MoCa to straight Ethernet Cat5e cable from ONT box to Routers "internet" port). In the past i had 150mbps/150mbps and always got full bandwidth on speedtest (OOKLA) and even when using my VPN (NordVPN).

Now after upgrading and in this new place, i had a Verizon tech come out and install brand new ONT and run Ethernet cables, my desktop connected hardwired to router only gets 300-400Mbps on download and 100-300 on upload. I have no idea why ??

The firmware has been updated on router, im running windows 10 on my pc. I call verizon they dont seem to know what they are talking about and they say they cannot help or troubleshoot because i am not paying for one of their "quantum gateway" routers. So im paying for a speed im not getting, the download and upload as per Verizon should be greater or equivalent to the speed you are registered for. (in my case 1 Gigabit).

Thank you all for listening, and if i made something unclear please let me know or if there is any other information you need.

Thank you

 

[0ldsch00l]

That sounded like the perfection solution and one that i overlooked/forgot about i was very excited logging into my router thinking this was going to be an easy fix, but upon checking QoS it is not even enabled 🙁 so i guess that cant be it, but thank you for your idea and feedback, i was really hoping it was just a setting.

Damn, did you try to set the QoS anyway just to see if it made a difference?

Well to be honest i dont know much about it, however i did enter where you can define/set your download and upload i set both to 950 Mbps. speed test was slower and speed were even cut in half compared to before. this is crazy been trying to figure this out for a week now. i cant tell if its my PC or router that has the issue, however when i direct connect upstairs pc with no router connected i get full bandwidth and correct speed, when i connect the router BOTH pcs get half the speed. 🙁

I was going crazy myself. Note however, that you should set the upload speed to 880mbs, that's what FIOS gigabit is, 940mbs down and 880mbs up. Here's a crazy idea, why don't you try downloading linux on to a USB drive and booting one your machines off of that and run a speedtest. Then you'll know if it's a windows issue or not.

i have never used Linux i have heard good things maybe i should try lol,. Well i can try and set it to those exact figures for download and upload and see if that does anything. I really feel there is some stupid setting somewhere on the router that im just missing or just un-educated about. Im losing my faith in expensive Netgear products lol

Plz read my post.....

Open VPN gigabit is not gonna give you 940 megs on a router, at least no current one which at most have maybe a dual core 1.5 ghz

Either use windows or linux software cline where it will use system CPU or build a gateway cheapo box

 

[Abe_FX35]

Open VPN with 256 AES? Hope you have a 4 ghz quad core router....... CPU power is need for the encryption which is heavy very heavy at that level. I used to run VPN on a cheapo modded tomato WNR3500L, with a 500 mhz cpu it was only capable of 12 megs open vpn

I have to use the windows software client for it, And for a friggen gigabit line your gonna need a KGB mainframe to power that.....
Try building a cheapo quad box see if you can get a used PII or core 2 6600 and OC it, install PFsense on it, make it your gateway firwall, it has integrated OpenVPN< just put nords info and you can leave it 24/7

In any case why u need a gigabit? Thats a T3 line literally, whew I would put that in a office with 500 employees lol, but for a home? I use FIOS too couldnt be happier but Im ok with half a T1 lines equivalent, latency is same no matter what the bandwith, single digit pings all I need 😉

Thanks for the reply, i honestly dont fully understand what the first part meant about VPN encryption ? i do use a VPN but i dont have it running 24/7 , i would like to in the future but right now its only installed and runs on only 1 machine. Well i dont really need a gigabit speed, but always dreamed about having it, they upgraded me for an extra 15 bucks from 150/150 to a gigabit connection so i took it. i do alot of downloading, plex media server,lots of skype calls and many other wifi devices to come, remote server, gaming, like 4 rokus in the house lots of other devices, 3 pcs, +future projects/guests/family etc hosting lan party etc. so i figured why not.

 

[0ldsch00l]

Open VPN with 256 AES? Hope you have a 4 ghz quad core router....... CPU power is need for the encryption which is heavy very heavy at that level. I used to run VPN on a cheapo modded tomato WNR3500L, with a 500 mhz cpu it was only capable of 12 megs open vpn

I have to use the windows software client for it, And for a friggen gigabit line your gonna need a KGB mainframe to power that.....
Try building a cheapo quad box see if you can get a used PII or core 2 6600 and OC it, install PFsense on it, make it your gateway firwall, it has integrated OpenVPN< just put nords info and you can leave it 24/7

In any case why u need a gigabit? Thats a T3 line literally, whew I would put that in a office with 500 employees lol, but for a home? I use FIOS too couldnt be happier but Im ok with half a T1 lines equivalent, latency is same no matter what the bandwith, single digit pings all I need 😉

Thanks for the reply, i honestly dont fully understand what the first part meant about VPN encryption ? i do use a VPN but i dont have it running 24/7 , i would like to in the future but right now its only installed and runs on only 1 machine. Well i dont really need a gigabit speed, but always dreamed about having it, they upgraded me for an extra 15 bucks from 150/150 to a gigabit connection so i took it. i do alot of downloading, plex media server,lots of skype calls and many other wifi devices to come, remote server, gaming, like 4 rokus in the house lots of other devices, 3 pcs, +future projects/guests/family etc hosting lan party etc. so i figured why not.

VPNs main use has always been security not anonimity.... sure you have the shady ones, or little torrenters, but real VPN open vpn high encryption is UNHACKABLE, maybe the NSA has a trick up their sleve, but most of the time its bulletproof. The encryption requieres heavy CPU work a router cant handle let alone they are like CPUs with no advanced features like AVX or MMX and low cache

 

[Abe_FX35]

Plz read my post.....

Open VPN gigabit is not gonna give you 940 megs on a router, at least no current one which at most have maybe a dual core 1.5 ghz

Either use windows or linux software cline where it will use system CPU or build a gateway cheapo box

Im trying to take it all in, im sorry but i dont fully understand what you mean im not ignoring your information. Ii will eventually want to run my VPN service on my network, however right now i just want normal ISP performance no VPN involved. If im understanding you i will need some kind of powerful server to run my VPN at full speed on my internet with encryption ?

Without VPN on, and direct ethernet to FIOS box on the wall i get 840+ download and upload. with router plugged up, still no VPN involved the speed is cut in half.

 

[Abe_FX35]

VPNs main use has always been security not anonimity.... sure you have the shady ones, or little torrenters, but real VPN open vpn high encryption is UNHACKABLE, maybe the NSA has a trick up their sleve, but most of the time its bulletproof. The encryption requieres heavy CPU work a router cant handle let alone they are like CPUs with no advanced features like AVX or MMX and low cache

I see, well that is something i would love to setup and learn in the future when i have the extra cash to buy the hardware for the VPN, here i thought im paying for VPN service and that they server would handle all that.

 

[0ldsch00l]

With VPN off using pure ISP connection you should be getting full speeds

 

[Abe_FX35]

With VPN off using pure ISP connection you should be getting full speeds

yeah i know right ! have no idea what is going on, Verizon wont help me troubleshoot cause im not using their crappy router, then again im starting to think my router is crappy too. (does it matter if i have other devices connected to the router hard wired that do NOT support a gigabit ethernet ? some only register as 10/100Mbps)

 

[0ldsch00l]

If they are using bandwith yes.
But try verizons router out, wont hurt, I have one, dont care only have one pc on this line, its pretty decent for an ISP router its Linux based open source code, should have less backdoors and holes then any comercial router.

PS: Wait a sec, how can u NOT use it? THeres a FIOS to ethernet converter box that goes to their router, what do you have the nighthawk inbetween1!?!!?!!?

 

[Abe_FX35]

If they are using bandwith yes.
But try verizons router out, wont hurt, I have one, dont care only have one pc on this line, its pretty decent for an ISP router its Linux based open source code, should have less backdoors and holes then any comercial router.

they didnt give me one since i told them i had my own, i kinda refuse to use their stuff, its no where near as good as some of the routers you can buy , or atleast what i thought and have been told. i have one of their old routers from like 4 years ago not sure how i still have it (i may have bought it at the time, dont remember), would it be dangerous to use it in place of my current router, would it work if i simply just plug it up or more to it than that ?

 

[Abe_FX35]

If they are using bandwith yes.
But try verizons router out, wont hurt, I have one, dont care only have one pc on this line, its pretty decent for an ISP router its Linux based open source code, should have less backdoors and holes then any comercial router.

PS: Wait a sec, how can u NOT use it? THeres a FIOS to ethernet converter box that goes to their router, what do you have the nighthawk inbetween1!?!!?!!?

I had the tech switch it over form MoCa (the technology their router uses over coaxial) to pure ethernet, there is a brand new fios box the tech installed and threw the old one away ... from the main fios box there is a smaller 3 inch by 3 inch box that some kind of line comes from the FIOS box, and the other side of this small box the tech mounted on wall has a ethernet port, which is where i directly plug a network cable from it, directly into my routers "internet" port.

Then i get the speed cut issue.

If i remove the router, and go directly LAN network cable to that small box i mentioned, boom 100 percent gigabit speed on speed test.

To make things more complicated i only get full speed on upstaira pc with direct connection. Downs stairs pc (6 years old) regardless of setup direct network cable or through router, speed still cut in half.

 

[Abe_FX35]

FIXED IT !!!!!! I solved this problem by turning off the "Internet Traffic Meter" Advanced> Advanced Setup> Traffic Meter SETTINGS on the router. FINALLY ! getting the full internet speed. Thank you all for your help and assistance ! WTH Netgear !?!??! lol

 

[0ldsch00l]

lol so it was the netgear? Dunno I got a newer FIOS gateway and its decent dunno if the hardware is any good havent looked at a detailed specs diagram, but tinkering the menu to see what I can tweak, its linux code which is good.

Ill take a linux based router or better yet flashed WRT or TOmato any day over cisco crap

 

[BlueCat57]

I couldn't read all the replies so I don't know if anyone provided this insight. Always remember that ANY "advertised" speed is the maximum speed you will get. Of course my 60 Mbps Charter Spectrum is returning 65 Mbps speeds but I'm guessing that is because the network is capable of 100 Mbps if I want to pay for it.

I'm not sure if it is still true that everyone in the neighborhood on the same switch shares the bandwidth of that switch but if that is still true then maybe that will cause slower speeds. Also, I'm sure someone can enlighten us, but I'm guessing that the computers on your home network also share the bandwidth. If I'm not mistaken (and I probably am) that is why routers have QoS and all sorts of other settings to prioritize which devices get priority to the bandwidth.

Now, you are saying you are now getting the full gigabit, so maybe none of this applies in your case. Maybe I'll just go back to adjusting my rabbit ears and try to get I Love Lucy to come in clear.