No difference between 970 and 1070

wiseEthan

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I had my 970 for about 3 years now. I have never been more satisfied with such a great card. I just recently upgraded to a 1070 considering they say there's a 2x performance boost. I've installed the card correctly and installed both the MSI Drivers and updated the NVIDIA drivers. I've seen no difference in performance. Same graphics settings, same frames. Now i'm not a computer person but when I spend $650 on a card, I expect a change in performance, especially when they advertise it. I was told that I should also get a good CPU, that is what I'm heading for next. I don't know if i'm doing something wrong, if someone could fill me in that would be stellar.
 
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which CPU? which games?
I run doom2016 with a stock 1070FE at 1080p@144hz everything max most time at 200fps - in a big arena with about 20 enemys it drops to 170fps and I've never hit below 150fps - not to mention it runs extremely smooth
 


I have an i5-4690k CPU @ 3.50GHz. I've tried running Arma 3, no difference. My friend that owns a 960 gets the same frames as me...
 


did you ever try to overclock the cpu?

I also tested the 1060 FE once and I came to the conclusion this gpu needs an i7 (preferable highly clocked) to use its full potential - it is a great 1080p@144hz gpu
> so I say your i5 (even overclocked) is just too weak for 1070 let alone a 1080(ti)
 
I've heard that from a number of people who went to a 1070 from even older cards when playing Arma 3, some folks swear that the answer is SLI and some just say that it is not a well optimized game.

Also, Arma 3 seems to be CPU limited as as indicated by these benchmarks HERE showing the linear improvement with clock speed when run on a Titan GPU. And if you paid $650, you overpaid by around $200 (at least if you are in the US where there is no VAT).
 
As I stated, I'm not a computer person. The thought of overclocking something makes me believe i'll break something. I was told to not overclock my GPU at all. How to OC my CPU? I have no clue. Never knew you could...
Also doesn't the PSU have something connected with OC?
 
I have upgraded from GTX 970 to 1070 too. After benchmark sites, it is said to be 60% performance increase. My own tests showed that it is true. And I even didn't reinstall drivers. So, there must be another problem, because it is definitely and increase in performance. I never needed to overclock GPU and the overclocking difference between default settings is not that great in gain with 1070. So don't do it, unless you have a really good reason for. And i really don't recommend you to overclocking the cpu, as this always reduce lifetime of your cpu (and whole system) and risks stability and if you really get unlucky, it can harm the cpu itself or the whole system. The gain in fps is not too big, so I don't recommend that risky thing if you are new and don't need it.
 


Ive been overclocking for over a decade now and as long as you dont chase the white rabbit, every cpu survives (and in the long run).
dice, ln2, helium overclocking needs a decent PSU.

you better try and test some other games - worst case you just return the 1070 and save the money
 


run benchmarks

you should have easily seen a very noticeable improvement going from a 970 to a 1070


start with valley, 3dmark, and heaven

make sure to run valley and heaven at extreme HD preset

post your scores

 



I wasn't able to run 3dmark but I got the scores for Heaven and Valley.
https://gyazo.com/70a43e0bed1a15ae12bbf70b6a7b26b3
https://gyazo.com/d4801313f087e8aefb817dcbeb6b7de0
 


your scores are good


are you turning on vsync in the games? this would lock your fps to your monitors refresh rate



arma 3 is a very crappy running game, cpu matters most there
 


Alright, well I'll go ahead and buy myself a better CPU. Off topic, do you think I should get a better PSU other than 500W? I'm pretty sure considering 500W is recommended for 1070 I should upgrade if I want to OC.
 




you need to overclock in arma, your current cpu is fine

get yourself a good 550w psu, that would be plenty

tier 1 or 2:

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html


 
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