Not getting expected performance in current games

[Wreckoniing]

i5 4690k @ stock
EVGA SC GTX 980
Ripjaws 1600mhz 2x4GB
Seasonic 650w 80+ gold
250GB SSD Samsung 840 EVO
2 TB seagate Barracuda


In newer titles like GTA V/Witcher 3/Dragon Age Inquisition im getting 10-20FPS lower than others using the same setup as mine, Benched and Stressed with expected results ... what am i doing wrong here? If its just my Gear what do you guys recommend i buy?

 

[Wreckoniing]

It's possible you have a bad GPU, or bad GPU memory.
It looks like you're only using half of the GPUs Vram, and at nowhere near the speed it should be:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487068

Your memory clock should be like 5000-7000mhz, not 1700.

I did just notice that... Msi Afterburner doesnt show correct Vram aswell

 

[mr91]

What are the 3d Mark fire strike scores?

Ill run 3Dmark tonight and post the results, currently at work!

K

 

[James Mason]

It's possible you have a bad GPU, or bad GPU memory.
It looks like you're only using half of the GPUs Vram, and at nowhere near the speed it should be:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487068

Your memory clock should be like 5000-7000mhz, not 1700.

Hmm, actually this is not true:
"The memory type for all current gaming grade video cards is GDDR5, which mostly runs at a real clock frequency of around 1000MHz to around 1400MHz. GDDR5 uses what is called "quad pumped" technology, which within one clock cycle can do four data transfers. Thus the effective memory clock, or data rate, is 1000MHzx4 to 1400MHzx4. This makes comparisons easier."

1700 is what speed it should be running at. (I wish they wouldn't complicate things like this -_-)

 

[mr91]

It's possible you have a bad GPU, or bad GPU memory.
It looks like you're only using half of the GPUs Vram, and at nowhere near the speed it should be:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487068

Your memory clock should be like 5000-7000mhz, not 1700.

Hmm, actually this is not true:
"The memory type for all current gaming grade video cards is GDDR5, which mostly runs at a real clock frequency of around 1000MHz to around 1400MHz. GDDR5 uses what is called "quad pumped" technology, which within one clock cycle can do four data transfers. Thus the effective memory clock, or data rate, is 1000MHzx4 to 1400MHzx4. This makes comparisons easier."

1700 is what speed it should be running at. (I wish they wouldn't complicate things like this -_-)

1750 to be exact...

 

[Vice93]

Hmm, actually this is not true:
"The memory type for all current gaming grade video cards is GDDR5, which mostly runs at a real clock frequency of around 1000MHz to around 1400MHz. GDDR5 uses what is called "quad pumped" technology, which within one clock cycle can do four data transfers. Thus the effective memory clock, or data rate, is 1000MHzx4 to 1400MHzx4. This makes comparisons easier."

1700 is what speed it should be running at. (I wish they wouldn't complicate things like this -_-)

Is that different for each manufacturers card btw? My MSI 970 runs at 3750mhz memory speed (overclocked). However my friends STRIX 970 show the value as close to 8K (cant remember his exact number).

But I didn't know it would ever show up as 1/4th, I have never experienced it myself at least.

EDIT:So does it work like CPU's using multipliers? e.g 1750x4=7K, 3750x2=7.5k.

 

[thewonderspud]

i5 4690k @ stock
EVGA SC GTX 980
Ripjaws 1600mhz 2x4GB
Seasonic 650w 80+ gold
250GB SSD Samsung 840 EVO
2 TB seagate Barracuda


In newer titles like GTA V/Witcher 3/Dragon Age Inquisition im getting 10-20FPS lower than others using the same setup as mine, Benched and Stressed with expected results ... what am i doing wrong here? If its just my Gear what do you guys recommend i buy?

Check if vertical sync (VSync) or anti aliasing (AA) is on. If they are, turn them off. This is one of the most common situations that you should always go over.

 

[Wreckoniing]

What are the 3d Mark fire strike scores?

Firestrike Scores as requested http://imgur.com/Ev76D7m

 

[Wreckoniing]

Hmm, actually this is not true:
"The memory type for all current gaming grade video cards is GDDR5, which mostly runs at a real clock frequency of around 1000MHz to around 1400MHz. GDDR5 uses what is called "quad pumped" technology, which within one clock cycle can do four data transfers. Thus the effective memory clock, or data rate, is 1000MHzx4 to 1400MHzx4. This makes comparisons easier."

1700 is what speed it should be running at. (I wish they wouldn't complicate things like this -_-)

Is that different for each manufacturers card btw? My MSI 970 runs at 3750mhz memory speed (overclocked). However my friends STRIX 970 show the value as close to 8K (cant remember his exact number).

But I didn't know it would ever show up as 1/4th, I have never experienced it myself at least.

EDIT:So does it work like CPU's using multipliers? e.g 1750x4=7K, 3750x2=7.5k.

i dont know mate, thats why i am asking

 

[Wreckoniing]

i5 4690k @ stock
EVGA SC GTX 980
Ripjaws 1600mhz 2x4GB
Seasonic 650w 80+ gold
250GB SSD Samsung 840 EVO
2 TB seagate Barracuda


In newer titles like GTA V/Witcher 3/Dragon Age Inquisition im getting 10-20FPS lower than others using the same setup as mine, Benched and Stressed with expected results ... what am i doing wrong here? If its just my Gear what do you guys recommend i buy?

Check if vertical sync (VSync) or anti aliasing (AA) is on. If they are, turn them off. This is one of the most common situations that you should always go over.

on and off doesnt change my frames 🙁

 

[thewonderspud]

i5 4690k @ stock
EVGA SC GTX 980
Ripjaws 1600mhz 2x4GB
Seasonic 650w 80+ gold
250GB SSD Samsung 840 EVO
2 TB seagate Barracuda


In newer titles like GTA V/Witcher 3/Dragon Age Inquisition im getting 10-20FPS lower than others using the same setup as mine, Benched and Stressed with expected results ... what am i doing wrong here? If its just my Gear what do you guys recommend i buy?

Check if vertical sync (VSync) or anti aliasing (AA) is on. If they are, turn them off. This is one of the most common situations that you should always go over.

on and off doesnt change my frames 🙁

That makes zero sense.
AA and VSync along with Anisotropic Filtering are the most FPS changing settings.

 

[Vice93]

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That makes zero sense.
AA and VSync along with Anisotropic Filtering are the most FPS changing settings.

Thing is he should be getting 60fps regardless if AA is on or off.

 

[thewonderspud]

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That makes zero sense.
AA and VSync along with Anisotropic Filtering are the most FPS changing settings.

Thing is he should be getting 60fps regardless if AA is on or off.

Erm... No. A 980 and an i5 cannot pull together GTA V at ultra with AA and VSync on at 60fps.

 

[Vice93]

Erm... No. A 980 and an i5 cannot pull together GTA V at ultra with AA and VSync on at 60fps.

And why is that? I haven't played GTA V myself so I can't vouch for that games performance.

But with my 970 (overclocked) I get 60fps in the witcher 3 with pretty much identical settings as OP (some even higher), yes with AA and Vsync on.

 

[thewonderspud]

Erm... No. A 980 and an i5 cannot pull together GTA V at ultra with AA and VSync on at 60fps.

And why is that? I haven't played GTA V myself so I can't vouch for that games performance.

But with my 970 (overclocked) I get 60fps in the witcher 3 with pretty much identical settings as OP (some even higher), yes with AA and Vsync on.

The Witcher 3 has pretty poor AA imo. GTA's AA and VSync are harder to pull of than The Witcher 3's.

 

[Vice93]

The Witcher 3 has pretty poor AA imo. GTA's AA and VSync are harder to pull of than The Witcher 3's.

That might be true, but it still doesn't change the fact that OP should get 60FPS in The Witcher 3 with his current settings when a 970's does. He also got better firestrike graphics scores than me so there doesn't seem to be any issues there.


In any case, have you ever come across a GPU showing 1/4th the total memory clock speed?

 

[mr91]

Hmm, actually this is not true:
"The memory type for all current gaming grade video cards is GDDR5, which mostly runs at a real clock frequency of around 1000MHz to around 1400MHz. GDDR5 uses what is called "quad pumped" technology, which within one clock cycle can do four data transfers. Thus the effective memory clock, or data rate, is 1000MHzx4 to 1400MHzx4. This makes comparisons easier."

1700 is what speed it should be running at. (I wish they wouldn't complicate things like this -_-)

Is that different for each manufacturers card btw? My MSI 970 runs at 3750mhz memory speed (overclocked). However my friends STRIX 970 show the value as close to 8K (cant remember his exact number).

But I didn't know it would ever show up as 1/4th, I have never experienced it myself at least.

EDIT:So does it work like CPU's using multipliers? e.g 1750x4=7K, 3750x2=7.5k.

False the reference speeds for the gtx 970 is 7 ghz 1750 *4 & all non reference MSI cards that I know of use reference memory speeds...

7 GHZ is the effective memory speed...

1750 mhz quad pumped

 

[mr91]

What are the 3d Mark fire strike scores?

Firestrike Scores as requested http://imgur.com/Ev76D7m

The score is normal for your hardware.

Can you list your components and your bothers components side by side?

 

[Vice93]

False the reference speeds for the gtx 970 is 7 ghz 1750 *4 & all non reference MSI cards that I know of use reference memory speeds...

7 GHZ is the effective memory speed...

1750 mhz quad pumped

I'm talking about overclock values here. http://puu.sh/i3KhB/742ba877a3.jpg
In any case if what you say is true then his memory seems to be just fine and there must be some other issue.

 

[mr91]

This guys OC & gpu voltage is ridiculous... 1556? I couldn't get that with my 980 and I have friends with 980's around 1500 is the max however around 1450 is the average... Maybe if you buy the new Asus gold card and get a high asic the 1556 is possible however i heard most classifieds don't hit 1556...


My friend had 2x 970 gold cards that couldn't get there...
I have other friends that have eVGA and Asus strix 970's that can't get to 1562. The op should set his gpu to stock and see what happens

 

[Vice93]

Those are my values btw. I've never had any issues really. Tried going higher on the clock to about 1580~but there I started having crashes.

Memory I can't push higher than ~3840 before having problems as well.

At the current clock & memory I've been able to play all my current games + no problems in the witcher 3 so far, except the now fixed UI crash.

There are quite a few OC'ers that have been able to push the 970 even further than me, mainly the Gigabyte G1 gaming one, seen quite a few people on 1600clock, 4000memory on overclock.net

 

[mr91]

Those are my values btw. I've never had any issues really. Tried going higher on the clock to about 1580~but there I started having crashes.

Memory I can't push higher than ~3840 before having problems as well.

At the current clock & memory I've been able to play all my current games + no problems in the witcher 3 so far, except the now fixed UI crash.

There are quite a few OC'ers that have been able to push the 970 even further than me, mainly the Gigabyte G1 gaming one, seen quite a few people on 1600clock, 4000memory on overclock.net

What is your ASIC Score? You can get that by righ clicking on GPU Z and selecting read asic score...

 

[mr91]

My guess is you're using a 1080 monitor because @ 1440p you might run into some trouble...

 

[Vice93]

Here you go http://puu.sh/i3N56/bdadb0a202.png

Yeah it's on a 1080p monitor.

My friend is overclocking in SLI with a 1440p monitor, little less clock but more memory on both cards, no issues either.

But let's not derail OP's thread further, just wanted to give some sort of comparison. OP definitely shouldn't have fps drops like hes experiencing.

 

[Wreckoniing]

any suggestions from here?

 

[mr91]

I could be wrong however I think it's a software issue because 3D Mark & Valley are normal...