Nvidia Announces GeForce GTX 1080 Ti; $700, Coming Next Week

[Malik 722]

it seems that vega has already hit a spot.

 

[bak0n]

Anyone else seeing these things being gouged for a minimum of $900 for at least 3 to 6 months?

 

[valeman2012]

The NVIDIA Geforce GTX 1080 Ti, No point of buying that Graphics Card if you own a Geforce GTX 1060, 1070 and 1080 they are powerful enough do what u need to do to run at Max FPS at Max Settings.
1050 Ti too...Wait for the 2080.

 

[mac_angel]

I'm curious about the benchmarks they showed at the event. Was that the 1080ti at boost clock, or the 2GHz overclock that they put on. That could make a huge difference.

 

[DerekA_C]

So, there's this thing called inflation. Ever heard of it?

nah , its not the case here ...Actually Electronics gets cheaper with time ... the PC components are the only goods that go against inflation and gets cheaper and cheaper ...

Intel is for sure guilty of inflation look at their CPU's alone even last gen is so close to current gen CPU prices it's ridiculous and sometimes their CPU's go up in price over time I know happened to me when I was shopping for 4790k not to mention their motherboards are more expensive then AMD counterparts and with Ryzen on the rise you can see same specs for specs except the cpu and the motherboards for AMD are still cheaper now why is this?

 

[bit_user]

... I think we all knew Titan XP buyers were getting ripped off, but I'm a bit surprised by how much.

Titan XP buyers knew full well the nature of what they were buying, the history of the Titan XM and 980 Ti was already established. It was their choice to make a purchase, nobody forced them. Top-end products always carry a premium because there are always those willing to pay the extra, to have the best, to be the first, or simply because they can; whatever. If one doesn't like the price then don't buy the product.

Dude, you missed my point. I wasn't complaining or pitying Titan XP buyers - just expressing surprise at the strength of this launch on both the price and performance fronts.

And if we look back at the 980 Ti, it had fewer CUDA cores enabled than the original Titan X.

And, given the big price increases of the 1080 FE and the Titan XP, relative to the previous generation, did you expect 1080 Ti to launch at only $700? If so, then good for you. But I didn't, nor did I think most people.

 

[bit_user]

Anyone else seeing these things being gouged for a minimum of $900 for at least 3 to 6 months?

Depends on:

■ Supply vs. Demand.
■ When Vega launches (see #1).

That said, one would hope that they've been making GP102's for long enough that the yield is up and they have a decent amount of inventory. Certainly, the OEMs are going to be complaining if they don't get their allocations filled.

 

[mac_angel]

I can't wait for Tom's NDA to be over and read a complete write up about all this new tech on it, and some good benchmarks. Really excited about this card - plan on picking up a pair of them for my bday in May. Be the first time in a long time I'm going for a flagship model, I've always been buying the x70's.

 

[bit_user]

Any estimate of the number of TFLOPS for the 1080ti? I think 11 or 12 is the critical number we need.

Anandtech somehow found out it's 11.3

http://www.anandtech.com/show/11172/nvidia-unveils-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-next-week-699

They have other details, as well, such as whether any GPU compute features of the Titan XP were disabled (they weren't).

 

[TJ Hooker]

Did you expect the 1080 Ti to have more SM's enabled than Titan XP? That's unprecedented.

And, given the big price increases of the 1080 FE and the Titan XP, relative to the previous generation, did you expect 1080 Ti to launch at only $700? If so, then good for you. But I didn't, nor did I think most people.

Unless I'm crazy, the 1080 Ti has the same number of SMs as the Titan XP. And that's not unprecedented. The 780 Ti had a higher SMX count than the original Titan, and the same count as the Titan Black. It also launched at $700. The GTX 1080 FE had the same MSRP as the 980, and a lower MSRP than the 780. Admittedly the Titan XP did have an MSRP $200 higher than previous Titans.

I don't know, I just don't really see anything here that's much out of line with what Nvidia's done in the past with x80 Tis and Titans.

 

[jasonf2]

I appreciate that nvidia continues to release GPU refreshes that don't rest on the fact that they have a solid performance lead. I know that massive parallelism is easier to increase performance with but I wish that the CPU market would follow suit and make a generational product gain compelling enough to actually spend that next 700 bucks.

 

[Kunra Zether]

I just picked up my Asus strixs GTX 1070 OC edition for only $382 on jet.com on the 16th. They were having an awesome sale I think you cold pick up a 1080 zotac I believe for 462 with the right promo. I'm loving the 1070. I'm curious though with them saying they are going to up the 1060 to 9 gb of VRAM I wonder if they will follow suit and up the 1070 to 11 or so. Idk I love mine runs cool and plays everything I've thrown at it on ultra so far couldn't ask for more at that price point.

 

[TJ Hooker]

I'm curious though with them saying they are going to up the 1060 to 9 gb of VRAM I wonder if they will follow suit and up the 1070 to 11 or so.

They're not increasing amount of VRAM, they're increasing VRAM speed. If they increase the speed for the 1070, I would assume they would up it to 9 Gbps like they're going to do for the 1060, as both the 1060 and 1070 currently use 8 Gbps GDDR5.

 

[bit_user]

Unless I'm crazy, the 1080 Ti has the same number of SMs as the Titan XP.

My bad. I was comparing to the wrong Titan X. Stupid naming...

I don't know, I just don't really see anything here that's much out of line with what Nvidia's done in the past with x80 Tis and Titans.

But past Titans didn't cost $1200 (not counting the dual-GPU Titan Z). And the x80 never had the same launch price as the x80 Ti. And if you extrapolate their pricing trends, you'd probably conclude that it should've launched at like $750 or $800.

 

[bit_user]

they're increasing VRAM speed. If they increase the speed for the 1070, I would assume they would up it to 9 Gbps like they're going to do for the 1060, as both the 1060 and 1070 currently use 8 Gbps GDDR5.

Yeah, I think they're sticking with GDDR5, right? 11 would presumably require GDDR5X.

 

[Arch_Angelos]

WOOOOOOOOO

 

[Arch_Angelos]

Ive basically already bought this card, price is on point for the specs.

 

[anthony8989]

nVidia is basically pre-release countering VEGA and forcing it to sub $499 price with the release of 1080Ti at $699, effectively blowing a big hole in AMD wallet before VEGA even hit the market. I would have payed money to see AMDs face when reality hit them, the ultimate punishment for dragging out the VEGA release like forever. Genius move by nVidia and cheaper gfx card for us, win for all except AMD.

And that's not all, you can buy 1080Ti next week, where is VEGA or even a simple thing as a release date for AMDs elusive power card. VEGA release is at least 2-3 months away during that time nVidia will eat up the market with 1080 $499 and 1080Ti $699 so when VEGA comes there will be only crumbs left.

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You make this sound as though Nvidia is intentionally trying to force Vega to be a lower price and that AMD is holding out on purpose instead of launching it....

1. We dont know what how well vega would really preform.

2. If you paid attention to Nvidia history, they've done this exact pricing scheme before with the 900 series.

GTX 980 was $550 when launched. Then the GTX 980 ti launched at $650. Sometime after the 980 ti launch, the GTX 980 price was lowered to the $450~500 range.

3. If vega perform well, it'll be priced where it needs to be (which could be $650 just like the Fury X).

Now sadly i didn't pay attention to prices for 780 and 780 ti and how prices shuffled around (im guessing they did) but any limited history lookup would of told you that Nvidia is just currently doing what they've done in the past.

Now if you'll excuse me, I need to tell my GTX 980ti that it isn't the "ti" flag bearer anymore and a new kid on the block will be taking its place.

EDIT: Changed the quote to match the mods changes to fynxer post.

You're right - it did happen with the 700 series as well. The 780 launched at around $700 ish, which was a big deal because it offered something like 85% of the performance of the Kepler Titan at around 65% of the price. Don't quote me on those numbers they're rough recollections, but in the ballpark (I'm too lazy to check).

Subsequently, when the 780 Ti launched it assumed that price point - more or less - and pushed the GTX 780 down to around $500 MSRP, which in turn pushed the GTX 770 down to $300/350.

It's a trend that follows the launch of each Ti card it would seem. So anyone looking to purchase a 1060 or 1070 soon may want to wait a few weeks until the pricing settles.

 

[anbello262]

Vega vs 1080ti, Ryzen vs Kaby Lake (no matter what most people think, I believe it was a very good launch, who doesn't love free OC headroom?), this is turning out to be a really interesting time for new system makers. A great year to make my new PC indeed.
Although Pascal launch last year was really interesting as well.

 

[nikoli707]

What this really does for AMD in reality is gives them room to adjust and tweak their current Vega Product which is why today was not an AMD Vega launch just showing off some of its new features and Tech, now we will likely see 16gb hbm2 with the full 1gbs memory cache instead of the 8gb with 512mbs. I say bring on the competition, problem with going first is your showing all your cards first second player can fold or up the stakes. Lets also mention Nvidia is on 16nm and AMD is already going for 7nm but this release will be between 10 and 14nm this could prove to be a devastating blow for Nvidia as we already know AMD with launch it cheaper then Nvidia. Also next gen rx580 will be 7nm that's right around the corner of Vega. Then there is the whole Ryzen+ coming to 7nm next year me thinks AMD having an engineer as CEO was the smartest thing AMD has done in the last 10 years.

the titanxp has been out for almost 7 months. the cards were laid out on the table a long time ago. that said, we already know amd wont beat the 1080ti in raw gaming performance, but they stand to beat them on price to performance.

 

[Kunra Zether]

I'm curious though with them saying they are going to up the 1060 to 9 gb of VRAM I wonder if they will follow suit and up the 1070 to 11 or so.

They're not increasing amount of VRAM, they're increasing VRAM speed. If they increase the speed for the 1070, I would assume they would up it to 9 Gbps like they're going to do for the 1060, as both the 1060 and 1070 currently use 8 Gbps GDDR5.

So this is a hardware based improvement then and not like a software or driver based that would be retroactive for current owners of 1060s and possibly 1070s. If that's the case then they would have to release two different sets of drivers for each card right?

 

[kinggremlin]

AMD is going to have hell of work to do. 699 is good price.

IMO a Gaming card should never reach $699 ... there was a time when the flagship was always $500 ... until nvidia suddenly decided their new flagship will be $650 instead of replacing the $500 older card ...

the Last time was GTX 680 .. $500 remember ? and the better one was really a DUAL GPU GTX 690 for $999 , not a stupid "Ti"

Then they came with the "Ti" trick .. meh ...

After that Nvidia went crazy .. the Ti should be also $500 .... the flag ship should always be $500 and replaces the older flag ship , instead of fooling us with a naming trick "Ti"

I wish AMD comes in and crush the prices again like they did to intel ...

If you were older than 15, you would remember the 8800 Ultra which was released almost exactly 10 years ago (May 2, 2007) for $830. Adjusted for inflation, that's $972 today. Ati and Nvidia were both selling a $600 card back in 2004. That's $772 today. There has never been a $500 ceiling on single GPU graphics cards.

 

[ttt_2017]

The NVIDIA Geforce GTX 1080 Ti, No point of buying that Graphics Card if you own a Geforce GTX 1060, 1070 and 1080 they are powerful enough do what u need to do to run at Max FPS at Max Settings.
1050 Ti too...Wait for the 2080.

people with GTX 1080 got it because it was the highest available but it still does not play good at 4K resolution.

More over , many people want to use 3 screens as well at 1600P resolution , and for such high end setups the GTX 1080 ti is the only way to go.

 

[ttt_2017]

AMD is going to have hell of work to do. 699 is good price.

IMO a Gaming card should never reach $699 ... there was a time when the flagship was always $500 ... until nvidia suddenly decided their new flagship will be $650 instead of replacing the $500 older card ...

the Last time was GTX 680 .. $500 remember ? and the better one was really a DUAL GPU GTX 690 for $999 , not a stupid "Ti"

Then they came with the "Ti" trick .. meh ...

After that Nvidia went crazy .. the Ti should be also $500 .... the flag ship should always be $500 and replaces the older flag ship , instead of fooling us with a naming trick "Ti"

I wish AMD comes in and crush the prices again like they did to intel ...

If you were older than 15, you would remember the 8800 Ultra which was released almost exactly 10 years ago (May 2, 2007) for $830. Adjusted for inflation, that's $972 today. Ati and Nvidia were both selling a $600 card back in 2004. That's $772 today. There has never been a $500 ceiling on single GPU graphics cards.

sorry does not fit again , as I said in the second reply , Electronic prices go down with time not up ...

nvidia made them go up again ...

Actually I was expecting Flagships to be $250 with time , like with PC components prices going down with time ...

has nothing to do with inflation .

Look at other products for example like RAM , SSD , Harddisks , notebooks , screens , and what so ever ... they give you better performance and become cheaper over time ...

in the past it was a DREAM to have a PC for $500 , most of the people paid from $2000-$3000 for a PC without even a 3D card years ago , and I remember reading an Article in PC magazine saying after 20 years , PCs will be $500 and performs 100 times faster...

look at the SSD market for example , did inflation hit it to the point of making it more expensive ? no ... we are paying for an M2 SSD with 3000MB/s speed CHEAPER than 60GB SSD SATA2 300 old SSD !!!

They have better SSD CPU inside , more Capacity , and 10 times faster , and CHEAPER ...

we are paying $100 for 250GB SSD that saturates the SATA port today ... 60GB SSD were $100 few years earlier

I can go on and on and on about other products as well that are living in the same time line and becoming cheaper..

Why is Nvidia so special huh ? they are tricking you and this has nothing to do with inflation.

Electronics GET cheaper over time TONS cheaper.

 

[CalifLove]

Well, what sucks for me is I just bought a 1080 in Jan and I can't return it to b&H now...but it appears I can get return reimbursed on my CC so bring on the TI!