News Nvidia GeForce RTX 3090 Founders Edition Review: Heir to the Titan Throne

[thepersonwithaface45]

If you were trying to buy a 3080 at $750 or less, you might be waiting until October regardless. Or hoping to get lucky.

Yeah, that's easy to forget too, that they still have to produce these things to sell even though released. Money wise, I'm prepared to spend <$1800 on a 3090 if it's worthwhile.
Now, about those PS5 pre-orders...

 

[TJ Hooker]

I'm kinda torn between the 3080 and 3090. Whichever model I get, it will be the ASUS ROG STRIX AIB.
My plan is to run a 4k main monitor and a 2k secondary. I just want to get the most future proof card to last me through the next generation and then upgrade in the 5000 series, assuming they keep the naming trend.
I want to maintain ATLEAST a consistent >70fps in games like, say, Cyberpunk 2077 in 4k ultra. I believe the 3090 should handle that no problem, but I'm not sure if the 3080 will be as consistent.

Future proofing is questionable at the best of times, and especially so in this case where the performance difference is so little and the price difference is so big. If we assume you're willing to spend up to $1500 over the next ~3 years (before 5000 series comes out), if you were to spend $750 on a 3080 this year and then spend another ~$750 whenever the next gen comes out you'd almost certainly end up with a card that performs better (and draws less power) than a 3090.

And that's not even considering what AMD might bring to the table.

 

[vinay2070]

This is getting pretty off topic, but a question to ask yourself is, how long do you think your buddy is going to be able to (or want to) keep working 6-7 days a week? I could be off base here, but I'm guessing he's still relatively young?

As a software engineer, you will likely be physically able to keep doing that for pretty much as long as you want, and probably keep increasing your income for most of that time (definitely if you move into engineering management). Whereas your buddy's ability to work in his field will almost certainly start to decline as he gets older. Unless he starts his own business (which comes with its own stresses and risks), his income may very well peak less than halfway through his life.

Not trying to knock the trades, but I think people may over-simplify things when they compare their earnings with that of a tradesman early on in both their respective careers, and conclude that trades are a 'better' choice because the tradesman earns more (at the moment) while having spent less time in school.

Think of it. A lot my team members who were in testing lost thier jobs because we automated testing. What used to take 15 daysX2people of manual testing now gets done overnight using selenium in less than 3 hours and it even sends out an email with summary. Now the code gets tested every night. 100s and 1000s of UI pages and the backend gets tested.

Cars are driving themselves, With little support and knowledge a computer literate person can create thier own site or blog. Machines have automated much of the jobs. Heck, Computers can even generate basic code. In about 10+ years time, where will this go? Only the cream of the soup will survive this software engineering industry and one has to really strive for it - especially with ever more engineers being pumped out of the universities who will work for cheap. Where as, will robots be able to build houses fully? Fix taps in your house? plumb all the pipes for new houses or fix leaks? Cut your hairs? Nah. That will take much longer. There will always be + and - for every job.

 

[HC1Gunner]

Not that much faster than the 3080, yet more than double the price, definitely not worth it.

 

[spongiemaster]

Cut your hairs? Nah. That will take much longer. There will always be + and - for every job.

Flobee

 

[hotaru.hino]

I don't know if it's going to tell us anything useful, but one statistic I'm curious about was GPU utilization. GPU-z could grab this easily.

 

[TJ Hooker]

Think of it. A lot my team members who were in testing lost thier jobs because we automated testing. What used to take 15 daysX2people of manual testing now gets done overnight using selenium in less than 3 hours and it even sends out an email with summary. Now the code gets tested every night. 100s and 1000s of UI pages and the backend gets tested.

Cars are driving themselves, With little support and knowledge a computer literate person can create thier own site or blog. Machines have automated much of the jobs. Heck, Computers can even generate basic code. In about 10+ years time, where will this go? Only the cream of the soup will survive this software engineering industry and one has to really strive for it - especially with ever more engineers being pumped out of the universities who will work for cheap.

I think you're overestimating the demise of software engineers.
"Employment of software developers is projected to grow 22 percent from 2019 to 2029, much faster than the average for all occupations. Software developers will be needed to respond to an increased demand for computer software."

Yes, automation may be cutting the number of engineers required for an individual project (of a given size/scope), but it would seem that this is more than compensated for by the increase in the number of projects requiring software engineers.

 

[vinay2070]

I think you're overestimating the demise of software engineers.
"Employment of software developers is projected to grow 22 percent from 2019 to 2029, much faster than the average for all occupations. Software developers will be needed to respond to an increased demand for computer software."

Yes, automation may be cutting the number of engineers required for an individual project (of a given size/scope), but it would seem that this is more than compensated for by the increase in the number of projects requiring software engineers.

Hope it works out well, and AI would enter later than sooner 😉

 

[thepersonwithaface45]

How about, no matter how hard the vast majority of the planet's population work, they will never, ever, EVER!! have the good luck to be in a position to call themselves 'millionaires'. Think of all the jobs / professions where there will be NO POSSIBLE way to to even approach anything above a minimal level of comfort. When they see others commenting about how easy it is for them to purchase luxury what do YOU think will be running through their heads - through no fault of their own??
It's not so much that folk 'care' how affluent others are, it's that never-ending indirect reminder of the blatant fact that they will NEVER be in that position...no matter how hard they work. Take some time and think about this - is it fair that others can afford through nothing more than luck? Given all the jobs in the world that need to be done, how do you resolve this 'little' issue?

Man, have you heard of Marshall Mathers?
There's avenues. Lucks a part of it.
But so is drive, confidence, work ethic- All that plays a factor. Everything is 'fair' when people who start with nothing can rocket to the top through their own decisions.