Review Nvidia GeForce RTX 5070 Ti review: A proper high-end GPU

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>If the 5070 Ti costs more than $750, that makes it less compelling.

Will it still be compelling at $750 + 10%?

Put another way, how would you as a reviewer reconcile the raised price floor for most every tech product going forward, if you're using past pricing (sans tariff) as a reference?
 
The further down the stack you go, the less likely pricing is to be completely bonkers. RTX 5090? Yeah, it was always going to sell like hotcakes. 5080 is the step down option so it's not too surprising to see it sell out. But the 5070 Ti? I suspect it will be reasonably available at $749.

Yes, there will be $799 to $899 variants, with more bling and a modest overclock. But you don't need to buy those to get a decent card. And we've added the caveat that it's only a good card if you can find it at MSRP.

The same thing basically happened with the 40-series. 4090 and 4080 were mostly sold above MSRP. But 4070 Ti and 4070 were pretty readily available at close to MSRP. The 4070 Ti Super supply is gone now, but it was pretty easy to acquire one at MSRP since it launched a year ago.
I always appreciate your prospective. Hopefully the 9070xt will help keep the 5070 and ti variants in check.
 
The addendum to the above, if you can't tell, is that I don't personally think the 5070 Ti is going to see continually high pricing. There's little reason for it to cost as much as some AIBs and retailers seem to want to charge.

The 5090 will always be expensive. The GB202 is a huge die that probably costs twice as much as the GB203 die per chip, on average. It also has twice as much VRAM, uses twice as much power, and is the fastest non-professional / non-datacenter GPU around. It doesn't seem like anything will surpass it, outside of a potential future RTX 5090 Ti / 5090 Super / Titan Blackwell.

The 5080 is the step down and offers new features, slightly higher performance, and the same base pricing as the previous 4080/4080 Super. It's sold out because it's the second fastest Blackwell GPU and it's brand-new. I don't think it will fall below $1000, just like the 4080 Super mostly didn't fall below $1000, but in a couple of months I think we'll see multiple 5080 models from the various AIBs that will cost $1000.

As the third string Blackwell GPU, the 5070 Ti will see higher production volumes and it also doesn't have the awe factor of the higher tier cards. It doesn't deliver a new performance tier; it's just a decent high-end card. And yes, in my book a 4-star score is "decent." Should it be 3.5-stars? Eh, if I wanted to say it's 3.5, then I need to start retconning a bunch of prior reviews as well. In Jarred's ranking system, it's about an 80%. LOL. Anyway, I really don't see a reason for anyone to want to spend $900 on this GPU, and the internet reactions all indicate that's the case.

Nvidia didn't tell the AIBs to price it at $900, that's the retailers and AIBs. And they did that in part because all the 5080 and 5090 cards immediately sold out and there's pent up demand. In fact, Nvidia required the AIBs to all have at least one base MSRP card. Everything else, the AIBs get to decide. I really don't get why people want to blame Nvidia for the 5070 Ti AIB cards being priced too high at launch. It's literally not Nvidia's decision how high Asus, MSI, etc. want to try to push things. And when the prices end up going too far and no one buys the 5070 Ti cards that cost more than a base price 5080? Then things will get corrected.
 
>If the 5070 Ti costs more than $750, that makes it less compelling.

Will it still be compelling at $750 + 10%?

Put another way, how would you as a reviewer reconcile the raised price floor for most every tech product going forward, if you're using past pricing (sans tariff) as a reference?
Tariffs (IMO) are being used as a bargaining tool and a stick, as it were, by the Trump administration. And I'm not saying that's good or bad or anything else, just that he's done this in the past. There are lots of tariffs imposed on US goods imported into other countries. So slap a tariff — or merely threaten to slap a tariff in some cases — as a bargaining tool.

Last time, there were higher tariffs imposed on China and so production moved to other countries (including Mexico). Now tariffs are being imposed on those other countries in order to get them to do whatever it is that Trump's administration wants. If it works out, the tariffs get exceptions and become a non-factor. If not, the market moves things around, and often you get cards "assembled" in a place where literally it's just the last screws or whatever to finalize a product.

Anyway, if everything costs 10% more? Then it's still the same relative price to performance ratio and so it's fine. Heck, eggs cost a lot more right now than they did two years ago. I still buy and eat eggs, though... Was disappointed when Costco was sold out of eggs the other day! I think it's $20 for five dozen last I went? Now it's "one flat per customer" as well. Dang bird flu! Dang tariffs!
 
I'am have commented that new series will be expansive and not better than the old one, for months... I only waiting for the 5060 a little better than the 4060.
Don't want such high end gpu because today games are a meh. Swapped my 4060 for a rx570 and that card still shining =]
5060 is going to be 8GB, basically guaranteed. It will be the same chip as the mobile 5070, which is already confirmed to be 8GB and 128-bit interface. <Sigh again> If it's $250, I'd be mostly okay with that, but I suspect it will be 10% faster than a 4060 and stick to the $299 price point. So "better" but not "good" — and we'll get 8GB and 16GB 5060 Ti as well it seems.

I really just want an RTX 5060 Ti with 3GB GDDR7 chips (12GB total) rather than two models straddling that point with either too little VRAM, or too high of a price.
 
>Tariffs (IMO) are being used as a bargaining tool and a stick, as it were

Without getting into the specifics (and running afoul of the politics of it), I'm fairly sure the 10% tariff will stick this time, if only because China is not playing ball. It has already gone ahead with counter-tariffs, among other actions.

>Anyway, if everything costs 10% more?

That's my question, because past gens don't cost 10% more--products that are being used to base your (and every other reviewer) $/perf metric.

Secondly, even for current products, some will get the whole 10%, some will get a fraction, and some will get none. Per WSJ, SE Asia is getting a lot of action from manufacturers frantically adjusting their supply line to ABC (Anywhere But China). Some of the increase will be reflected in MSRP, and some will be pushed to street pricing while MSRP stay as-is. Pricing will be complicated.

Actually, I'm not really looking for an answer (because there really isn't one for now, given all the uncertainty). It's more of a nudge for you to be mindful of the complications in determining "value" going forward.
 
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>Tariffs (IMO) are being used as a bargaining tool and a stick, as it were

Without getting into the specifics (and running afoul of the politics of it), I'm fairly sure the 10% tariff will stick this time, if only because China is not playing ball. It has already gone ahead with counter-tariffs, among other actions.

>Anyway, if everything costs 10% more?

That's my question, because past gens don't cost 10% more--products that are being used to base your (and every other reviewer) $/perf metric.

Secondly, even for current products, some will get the whole 10%, some will get a fraction, and some will get none. Per WSJ, SE Asia is getting a lot of action from manufacturers frantically adjusting their supply line to ABC (Anywhere But China). Some of the increase will be reflected in MSRP, and some will be pushed to street pricing while MSRP stay as-is. Pricing will be complicated.

Actually, I'm not really looking for an answer (because there really isn't one for now, given all the uncertainty). It's more of a nudge for you to be mindful of the complications in determining "value" going forward.
might as well throw tax in there too, since my B580 actually cost about $265 ($249 MSRP).
 
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The 5080 is the step down and offers new features, slightly higher performance, and the same base pricing as the previous 4080/4080 Super. It's sold out because it's the second fastest Blackwell GPU and it's brand-new. I don't think it will fall below $1000, just like the 4080 Super mostly didn't fall below $1000, but in a couple of months I think we'll see multiple 5080 models from the various AIBs that will cost $1000.
LOL, it's sold out because there was virtually no stock. The 5090/5080 was a paper launch where Nvidia created massive hype, then deliberately kept stock low to escalate prices to absurd levels for the early adopter fools. Only to then suffer driver and cable issues.
 
5060 is going to be 8GB, basically guaranteed. It will be the same chip as the mobile 5070, which is already confirmed to be 8GB and 128-bit interface. <Sigh again> If it's $250, I'd be mostly okay with that, but I suspect it will be 10% faster than a 4060 and stick to the $299 price point. So "better" but not "good" — and we'll get 8GB and 16GB 5060 Ti as well it seems.

I really just want an RTX 5060 Ti with 3GB GDDR7 chips (12GB total) rather than two models straddling that point with either too little VRAM, or too high of a price.
5050 in all but name.
 
Another? The 3000 series was a great improvement over the 2000 and the 4000 high-end cards (4090, 4080 and 4070 Ti) where also significantly more performant than the 3000 (the 4080 beats the 3090 Ti). The 5000 series is an anomaly with cards that barely beat their previous gen equivalent.
Anomaly? What about the awful 4060? 4060ti? 3050, 6 and 8 gig (total jokes without even comparing to the non-existent 2050)? 3070 and 3070 ti were pointless and didn't need to exist as it were. They remade the 3080 to boost it a little to what it should've been. NVIDIA then tried selling us a 4080 12GB with broken knees and no walking cane. But they reverted their decision. Still an anomaly, this generation? Not at all. 4080 super was as lame as refreshes go, as is the 5080. Now, 5070 ti is in the same boat, maybe even worse. Still an anomaly? Main reason 7800XT ended up as weak as it did, is that AMD saw not an anomaly among cards but a clear trend where you can, and should, upsell air. Not an accident.

The 5090 got as much gains as it got increased power usage and price. It's got a 148mm2 larger die size than a 4090. A 4090 Ti could have that too. The 5090 would've been fine as a refresh, maybe even a decent one. There is no anomaly.

The only thing the 5090 got going for it to be anything more than a simple refresh is the memory bandwidth.

You'll be seeing a lot more of these "anomalies".

Also Tomshardware, the lead-in isn't trustworthy in the slightest. Not even NVIDIA claims it to be a high-end card. Hence the name, 5070 Ti. These are modest to OK gains for a refresh, just not when they're this late. As a generational leap? Pathetic, insulting - just two examples of available dictionary entries that'd fit better.
 
Anomaly? What about the awful 4060? 4060ti? 3050, 6 and 8 gig (total jokes without even comparing to the non-existent 2050)? 3070 and 3070 ti were pointless and didn't need to exist as it were. They remade the 3080 to boost it a little to what it should've been. NVIDIA then tried selling us a 4080 12GB with broken knees and no walking cane. But they reverted their decision. Still an anomaly, this generation? Not at all. 4080 super was as lame as refreshes go, as is the 5080. Now, 5070 ti is in the same boat, maybe even worse. Still an anomaly? Main reason 7800XT ended up as weak as it did, is that AMD saw not an anomaly among cards but a clear trend where you can, and should, upsell air. Not an accident.

The 5090 got as much gains as it got increased power usage and price. It's got a 148mm2 larger die size than a 4090. A 4090 Ti could have that too. The 5090 would've been fine as a refresh, maybe even a decent one. There is no anomaly.

The only thing the 5090 got going for it to be anything more than a simple refresh is the memory bandwidth.

You'll be seeing a lot more of these "anomalies".

Also Tomshardware, the lead-in isn't trustworthy in the slightest. Not even NVIDIA claims it to be a high-end card. Hence the name, 5070 Ti. These are modest to OK gains for a refresh, just not when they're this late. As a generational leap? Pathetic, insulting - just two examples of available dictionary entries that'd fit better.
Didn't expect my comment would upset someone that much. Take a deep breath maybe. Every generation had their lame duck cards, but traditionally, Nvidia releases their best cards first and that was no exception for the 4000 series. They were overpriced for sure, but the 4080 and 4090 were (and are still) excellent cards with great improvement over the 3000 series. The fake 4080 12G that was actually the 4070 Ti was indeed an insult, but with the right name it went back in line with cards that got a significant generational leap. The 4080 Super was just an excuse to lower the price of the 4080.

Now, all the 5000 cards are just like a "Super" version of the previous gen, and this is for the cards Nvidia are releasing first, so their best ones. So yes, an anomaly. And I'm afraid that the anomaly will become the new normal from now on. Let's see with the 6000 series in a couple of years but I have very little hope.
 
>might as well throw tax in there too, since my B580 actually cost about $265 ($249 MSRP).

Sales tax & GST/VAT are straightforward, as they aren't included in MSRP. We just exclude them from $/perf calc.

Tariff, while effectively a tax, is tough to remove because most of it will be subsumed in MSRP, and it will be applied unequally to different products, or even the same product at different times.

Example: 5070 Ti's $750 MSRP was set before the tariff was announced. Assuming the most likely case that the $750 cards are sold out, and when it's back in stock, it's now $825 with tariff. Does the "value" calc stay the same, or is it now worse?

Relative to current competition, what if Nvidia cards escaped tariff, and AMD cards can't? Or vice versa? Would it be fair to exclude tariff, even if the extra 10% push the actual $/perf in favor of the other?

BTW, I doubt we'll see another $250 GPU any time soon. The relative fluidity of price levels plus the uncertainty of tariff will be good opportunity for companies to break price expectations. I think the $300 price point for entry-level will be bumped to $350, tariff or no tariff.
 
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I guess I'm just burnt out and cynical. I truly don't believe that anyone involved, from nVidia, to the AIB vendors, to any of the retailers have any reason to lower prices throughout the lifecycle of the cards.

Especially with nVidia removing any other options from retail channels, they are forcing everyone who might need a new card to play this dumb game. On top of that, the aftermarket channels are also reacting to the limited options, making everything ridiculously expensive.

Literally no one in the hardware ecosystem around GPUs has any reason to ever lower prices in the last few years. And that doesn't seem like it's going to change soon with all of the extra excuses they have to drive the prices ever higher.

*Edit: I've been in PC gaming long enough that I remember when cards would launch at MSRP, and go on sale below MSRP afterwards as their value deprecated throughout their lifecycle.
 
I love how the internet is full of people that apparently know the future. If that's true, I hope they're all trillionaires, because I sure don't know what will happen in the coming two weeks, never mind two months.

What we know is that the official base price as defined by Nvidia for the RTX 5070 Ti is $749. Is it going to go for that much when it goes on sale tomorrow? Of course not — except in limited quantities. This is the same thing that happens with every new generation of GPUs, going back well over a decade. There's excitement and price gouging and increased demand at launch, prices spike up, but once the initial surge in upgrades dies off the prices stabilize and tend to fall back closer to MSRP.

Where things get messy is when stuff like cryptocurrency mining and AI enter the picture. Ethereum screwed up GPU prices for several years. First we had all the Ampere and RDNA2 GPUs selling at double or triple MSRP, and then we got sequels that increased generational pricing and still sold. And then along comes AI and helps to support those price decisions. Meanwhile, the cost of creating and manufacturing cutting edge silicon keeps going up. And so we should expect the performance per dollar to not change radically these days.

$750 for what amounts to slightly less than 4080 / 4080 Super performance? Yeah, that looks about right. I can live with that and say it's a reasonable offering. But then we get a bunch of true influencers yelling at the clouds and saying how it's all lies, because anger and resentment drives video views!

The difference between me and an angry YouTuber is that I don't get paid directly by page views. If I had a monetized YouTube channel and I got double the views and double the pay by taking an angry approach and having the right thumbnail, I'm sure I'd be doing the same junk. But as a salaried journalist? I get to sit back, look at the big picture, and say what I think without worrying about whether it will earn me more money or not. Literally, it's the exact opposite of what many contend. YouTubers who get paid directly for views are more beholden to marketing tactics (including the "be angry at everything" approach) than I am.

As stated in the conclusion, this really comes down to the actual street prices, and we won't know what those are for at least a couple of months. Yes, cards go on sale tomorrow. Yes, they're going to sell out. Just like the GTX 970 and GTX 980 sold out at launch in 2014, and every new high-end GPU from Nvidia between then and now. So we can't make a snap judgement about how a GPU ranks based on the first few weeks of its two years shelf life!

The 5070 Ti isn't amazing. It's moderately faster than its predecessor (looking at the 4070 Ti), for ostensibly less money. There are also clearly still some driver issues, probably because the number of INT32 ALUs was doubled and perhaps the AI Management Processor isn't balancing things properly, I don't know. I expect all of the currently negative performance deltas relative to the 4070 Ti Super will get fixed in the next couple of months with driver updates, but Nvidia is still busy trying to roll out more new GPUs and so things get back burnered.

If the 5070 Ti costs more than $750, that makes it less compelling. Don't buy it if it costs too much for what you get! Certainly don't buy the $1,000+ models that are being hawked at launch, because that's not where this GPU belongs. It's a good card with 16GB of VRAM at what should be a reasonable price. Just like removing 4GB of the memory would change the picture, so does increasing the price by $250. But I'm not going to base my review of the hardware on what may very well be — what should be — short-term price gouging.

Fundamentally, RTX 5070 Ti is slower than the RTX 4080 and 4080 Super in most benchmarks. That's fine, and it's why it's supposed to cost less. 4080 and 4080 Super cards were available for under $1,000 much of last year, and there's no good reason for the 5070 Ti to cost more than that. The reason it will, in the short term, is due to the supply chain.

Nvidia stopped RTX 40-series production too early, Blackwell got delayed, inventory dried up, prices went up, and we're still living in that state. It will take months for things to get smoothed out, but eventually it will happen. Just like eventually all the cryptocurrency GPU mining died out. On paper, 10~15 percent more performance, plus new features, for 7% less money is a reasonable offer. If retail outlets try to increase the price by 20%? Yeah, that's stupid and you shouldn't buy it at those prices. That is all.

Nvidia doesn't pay me one red cent to say anything. I get a card for review, yes, which belongs to my employer. If my article gets a ton of traffic? Future earns more advertising money and potentially more ecommerce money. If it does terrible? Future earns less money. Either way, I get paid exactly the same amount. I have no reason to push a false narrative. I get to write what I think, and the chips fall where they will. Yes, higher traffic and engagement makes me happy on some level, because it means people are reading the content I produced, but my salary stays the same.

Am I wrong about the MSRP? No. It is what it is. Will cards actually get down to the MSRP sooner than later? I don't know, and the review text is very clear that if prices are higher, that makes this card less interesting. That's why it's listed as a con. The 4-star score is basically just a subjective value that can't possibly hope to encapsulate the nearly 10,000 words of text and hundreds of hours of benchmarking. Just as the pros and cons are just a few key highlights and can't possibly convey everything you need to know.

TLDR: Please don't try to pigeonhole reviewers just because they put up a number that you don't like, or because you think the unknown future will be bad. Value is intrinsically linked to price, and in the coming weeks I'm sure we'll have dozens more articles talking about GPU prices and relative values. And at some point I'll get the time to actually properly update the best graphics cards list and GPU hierarchy, as things will calm down a bit once the 9060 and 5060 cards are out the door. Which is probably several months away. Sigh.
But to be frank, I know they are slightly faster and supposed to be cheaper than the last gen, but last gen is also the first ever official scalping pricing structure by the vendor, slapping a 70%+ profit margin per SKU, so marginally cheaper but not return to 3070 MSRP is still a rip off from Nvidia, just a smaller rip off.

And for review rating and title, I am aware that review sites normally won't be too harsh to the biggest players, and that they have to be consistent throughout. But personally, I think that when trying to get a rating, despite comparing numerically to the preceeding generation, maybe go a bit on how easy/difficult you are to find real valid points to praise/hate the product could be factored in. when say on this review, essentially you cannot find something shiny to praise on, for that alone I would be more inclined to give a 3 star if not less. It's not (too) broken in stability, a "super"ish perf increase and a less crazy price don't really count as "proper"
 
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There are MSRP cards listed at retailers. So the prediction that no FE model meant there weren't going to be MSRP options has already proven false. Scalpers sucking them all up is not the fault of the product.

You know that these are at msrp because nvidia gives those chips at discount at the release. After nvidia stop those discounts… no more msrp GPUs. So it is temporary release discount. Ofcourse it is possible that nvidia in the future reduce the memory and chip bundle to AIBs close or to sameaa they now sell to msrp versions. But there is no quarantee for it to hapen.
 
You know that these are at msrp because nvidia gives those chips at discount at the release. After nvidia stop those discounts… no more msrp GPUs. So it is temporary release discount. Ofcourse it is possible that nvidia in the future reduce the memory and chip bundle to AIBs close or to sameaa they now sell to msrp versions. But there is no quarantee for it to hapen.
As Jarred stated in one of his posts here. You're trying to predict the future, when you have no innate ability to do so. You can only review based on the data on hand not on what you think the future will be.
 
From what I'm seeing, it looks like 5070Ti stocks are even worse than the 5080 or 5090.
Can we just call it a paper launch at this point?

It also makes me wonder why nvidia is so eager to shove the 50 series out the door, when they know AMD will drop the ball.
 
From what I'm seeing, it looks like 5070Ti stocks are even worse than the 5080 or 5090.
Can we just call it a paper launch at this point?

It also makes me wonder why nvidia is so eager to shove the 50 series out the door, when they know AMD will drop the ball.
I don't think those are paper launch, but more a strategy where you made buyers think the product is in low stock and you should buy it now when you can, in reality you can sell it very well and it can be in more quantities than a normal launch.
On UserBenchmark you already have more than 590000 RTX 5080 tested, it's a big amount and seems like a success launch.
 
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Something that is hard to reconcile is the fact that Newegg as of this morning (the 20th), lists multiple models at MSRP.

However, their only tweet about receiving 5070 Ti's for sale shows the MSI model that Microcenter is listing for $1000+. So listing MSRP models, but only showing you have overpriced models in stock doesn't give me much faith. I guess I'll wait and see what happens in 2 hours though.
 
Excuse me? 5080 has exactly the same. Either 5070 has too much (nope) or 5080 too little.
5080 is a $1000 graphics card and I would have preferred it to get 24GB (8 x 3GB chips) rather than 16GB. For $250 less and at a $750 price point, 16GB seems generally fine. Last generation, the 4070 Ti launched with 12GB, and that was a problem.
Something that is hard to reconcile is the fact that Newegg as of this morning (the 20th), lists multiple models at MSRP.

However, their only tweet about receiving 5070 Ti's for sale shows the MSI model that Microcenter is listing for $1000+. So listing MSRP models, but only showing you have overpriced models in stock doesn't give me much faith. I guess I'll wait and see what happens in 2 hours though.
This is why I said yesterday that trying to predict the situation for today, and the coming week, and then next few months is impossible. Someone put together data from Micro Center for the 5090 and 5080 at launch and came up with 233 total 5090 cards sold across all MC locations on launch day, compared to 10X that many 5080 cards. But you know what? We have zero insight into most retailers.

How many cards were sold by Newegg, Amazon, Best Buy, B&H, etc? Because it definitely wasn't zero. Nvidia didn't create hundreds of thousands of 5090 cards for launch, I'm sure we can agree on that. But were there only a few thousand, per perhaps 10~20 thousand, or what? The only people who know for certain aren't going to talk. And if 5080 was 10X that number, and 5070 Ti is 2X to 3X more than the 5080?

I believe Nvidia wants the cards to sell out at launch, rather than have a bunch of extras. But it also wants to sell a lot of cards, and it also has to look forward to the next two years. A business like Nvidia's needs constant sales rather than trying to have everything that will be needed for a product launch all at once. The demand for high-end and extreme GPUs right now is very inflated, due to delays with Blackwell (just a couple of months, but that was enough), and those delays were during the holiday shopping spree.

How long will it take for supply to catch up to demand? For the 5090, perhaps it never does. For the 5080, probably a few more months. For the 5070 Ti? Hopefully less than two months. And for the 5070, maybe only a month or so by the time that comes out. Speaking of...

Nvidia will likely have 2X to 3X more 5070 cards at launch compared to 5070 Ti, which means it could easily be into the 50~100K cards range. The reason being that this is where AMD will primarily compete, and Nvidia wants to dominate AMD still. (5070 Ti is also in the "we must dominate our competitor" category, which is why I anticipate a lot more stock today than the 5080.) I still don't think there will be "enough" cards today or for the 5070 so that things don't sell out, but it's conceivable that it might take an hour or two before the cards are all gone (e.g. at Newegg).

And by the time the 5060 Ti and 5060 roll out, those will be low enough on the performance ladder that they probably won't sell out.