Review Nvidia GeForce RTX 5070 Ti review: A proper high-end GPU

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The 5070 ti should have been the 5070 ... but when there is no competition alot of $$$$ happens

nah they want to sell a 5070 ti super i set your house on fire card and duck taped i mean thermal padded to hell. and back.

dont also delude yourself even with competition amd would just sell a inflated card next to it.

until intel gets more serious i would expect the 6000 series to be the same affair. which i hope they do get serious as NVidia needs a dethroning and I don't expect amd to do it anytime soon.

intel and amd just need to be feature rich to stay completive.

i can see a battle in the 100-600 range. but i wouldn't hold my breath at the high end.
 
You have basically every proper review of this card literally SHOWING YOU how ludicrously worthless this card is, and lo' here comes TOMS HARDWARE!

This single article shows just how out of touch this site has become. I can't believe you would suggest that it's even remotely worth anything. Absolutely clueless.
 
I'm not even clicking the article based on that title. You got some of the "bad stuff" author. The 5070 is a decent performance upgrade depending where you come from but also terrible value no matter where you come from.
 
Do people not realize the kind of gold rush that is happening right now with AI? Anything you think you know, the reality is so much worse. Our guys are being pressured to include "AI" in our products and we're a fricking nonprofit finance cooperative in the energy sector that doesn't have to worry about shareholders. If we're being pressured this much, I can't imagine how bad it must be for the for-profit companies who rely on quarterly reports to hold up stock prices.
I work for a company that makes jigs for spot welding/arc welding and end-of-arm robot grippers, that last year went from private ownership to being owned by an investment firm.

Management made everyone's end of year bonuses and the next round of raises dependent on everyone finding ways to integrate AI into their area.

I wish this was a joke.
 
I work for a company that makes jigs for spot welding/arc welding and end-of-arm robot grippers, that last year went from private ownership to being owned by an investment firm.

Management made everyone's end of year bonuses and the next round of raises dependent on everyone finding ways to integrate AI into their area.

I wish this was a joke.
This is all proof that AI is a solution looking for a problem (at least in these fields, I understand it has great success in other applications like weather modelling etc). We were previously banned from using ANY AI products but recently got greenlit to use ChatGPT for Business with the catch that all usage must be monitored and vetted by a person. In that case, I may as well do it myself, it'll be quicker with less effort. Pointless exercise.

On NVIDIA and the 50 series, specifically DLSS 4. The transformer model so far is...meh to full nope, depending. Some things are better, some things are so, so much worse. It was supposed to fix ghosting, I'm finding It much worse and far more visible. It was supposed have a bit higher overhead, how about 30% more, that's what I'm seeing. I'm only getting a few more FPS than native or DLAA. This stuff just doesn't seem to work as well as they say it does, the results are always so inconsistent across games too. Frame gen has always been janky with the exception of a few games I have where it works pretty OK. Others there are literally frames placed out of order, giving a weird jump pause every few seconds. Or insane, seizure inducing strobing, massive stuttering all while the base frame rate is well inside the "good for Frame Gen window. I think they need to bake these features in the oven a bit more, and it is certainly NOT a selling point due to the inconsistencies. I can only care about raster, because I know that's going to work a certain way, consistently. The 5070 Ti is probably a good card, excluding the AI features, but for anyone actually considering it, wait. Wait for the price to drop, or wait for the Super refresh, if the 9070 bombs, or is scalped, or.... you get the point.

(Edit:clarity) All subjective and opinion based testing (by this I mean I was gaming, just, gaming) done on the two 40 series GPU's in my sig. Results are just my observations on two different systems but that does not exclude the possibility of my misconfiguring something as I often carry settings from one to the other. I am also satisfied with both GPU's, and am pleased with DLSS and frame gen when they work. My disappointment only stems from the inconsistencies I stated perviously.
 
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>There's always a personal choice when information is presented at you. Some do this conciously, others unconciously: filter what you consider noise.

It's not the personal but the interpersonal that drives group dynamic. It is not a "personal choice" when somebody else is manipulated by whatever tactic used and is venting/ranting/raging in your face. You may not be so manipulated, but many people are.

The manipulation doesn't even have to be intentional. As you said, the situation sucks for gamers. Many feel aggrieved. There is latent if not outright overt anger (FAKE PRICES FOR FAKE FRAMES!). Angry people tend to look for things to blame--Nvidia for being greedy, AMD for being incompetent and not taking advantage, reviewers (who deviates from the group consensus) for being shills, etc.

There is real pressure to conform to the group consensus, because the risk is being ostracized. For YT channels, that means direct loss of income. People like and highly value what confirms their existing belief, and ignore anything that contradicts. So even if they think otherwise, you see the verdicts in YT reviews. They're largely the same: Nvidia is to blame.

Reality is more prosaic. There is no evil villain with a master plan to exploit the vulnerable. Much of the time, things just happen, and there are winners and losers. AI happens, and companies are acting in their best interest, just as consumers are acting in their self-interest. As Palladin pointed out, AI is huge. Microsoft is spending 80bil, Google 75bil, Meta 60-65bil. For this year alone. Is it any wonder that gaming GPU is left in the dust? Why do we feel that Nvidia/AMD have to cater to our needs first?

When facing a mob of angry, aggrieved people, rationality is the first thing to die.


>Also, you should learn how to quote in-line with the post (use the BB code, in short). Please do take this in a positive way, as it's easier to spot when you reply to someone.

You'll have to excuse. My posting/quoting habits were formed since the 12/2400 modem days, and in all likelihood they'll stay that way. Consider it a quirk.
 
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