Nvidia is Looking Forward to Fight Intel in Court

[Tamz_msc]

Just why doesn't NVIDIA stop this bs and focus more on the most important thing that they're supposed to do - make proper graphics cards and compensate the six month delay that they have brought upon themselves?

 

[sonofliberty08]

nvidia should make more AMD platform chipset , just like the old days ......

 

[shin0bi272]

I have a question. If amd bought ati and are now making both cpus and gpus why arent intel and nvidia teaming up? I mean the two biggest players in the market teaming up and working together instead of against each other would make for a definite powerhouse of a pc. But we get these cross platform cross vendor dependencies with intel chipsets pushing crossfire and nvidia making chipsets for amd... reminds me of congress when there's a 1 seat majority lol.

 

[babybeluga]

This just in:

AMD still winning in the DX11 market.

 

[victomofreality]

I find all the law suits funny... AMD sues intel, nvidia sues intel, and judging by the physx article from today soon AMD sues nvidia.

 

[number13]

Stupid, one kid doesn't like the other kid

 

[liquidsnake718]

[citation][nom]sakatainx[/nom]I remembered when I made my Socket 939 with Nforce 4... It was so sweet and give me confidence NV + AMD = PerformanceSince AMD+ATI things are changed and NV left alone without solid direction, they made many things such CHIPSET, GPU, RE Labeled GPU, Optimus, Physx, Fermi, 3D Vision... but nothing comes as a killer product. In fact they miss the GPU schedule and try to gain popularity by creating 2D comic against Intel.Fighting Intel in the chipset business is not a solution because every chipset must develop according to the processor and this always lead AMD+ATI or INTEL+INTEL ahead....[/citation]
you forgot ion and ion2

 

[OvrClkr]

I guess im the other way around, i have/had a few boards with NV chipsets (AMD) and never had an issue, IMO the issue really surfaced when XFX started to come out with the quirky/flaky 780/790i's , hot NB's etc..

To this date I still have a 760g/780a (Both Asrock) working perfectly fine with overclocked CPU's 24/7 ...

 

[sakatainx]

Nforce 650,680,780i,790i less than 1 yr to catch up intel fsb
Intel P35,P45,X38,X48 less than 8 months to match processor intel fsb
AMD 690,770,780,790 more than 1 year to catch up with amd processor

Since AMD+ATI looks like NV wants to catch up with Intel to be King of the chipset. But finally doesn't make a good sell cause too high price of 780/790. Nowdays Intel keep debut new chipset like x58,p55,H55 while NV absent the Chipset business for a long time.
AMD still show their 890GX only to provide USB 3 and Sata 3.

NV should learn from AMD+ATI there is no need to be king of the hill because user doesn't always upgrade whenever new chipset comes
AND
not to compete the chipset business with someone who create processor and chipset.... 533,667,800,1066,1333,1600,1800 CMIIW

 

[impreza]

would be great if intel had to stop bundling igp into their chipsets. That would be one huge blow for them and great for everyone else.

 

[impreza]

[citation][nom]number13[/nom]Stupid, one kid doesn't like the other kid[/citation]

I don't see why nvidia wont just let physx run on ati hardware. They have nothing to gain from it only working on nvidia cards. Just wait till havok is accelerated only on ati and physx only on nvidia. Then the devs will be stuck in the middle no knowing which they should use.
Funny thing is physx with cuda works on x360 and wii on ati cards so it should work on ati pc cards

 

[m-manla]

Some one please tell NVidia worry about Fermi instead of spending money that can help put more of the GF100 series out. Ok, Intel is a control hog. We get it. But in the Pro A/V World, NVidia chipsets are buggy on our equipment. Intel is the best thing to use.

 

[Reynod]

NVidia will lose as they don't have a leg to stand on ... which is sad because Intel are essentially taking the entire chipset portion of the market for themselves as a result ...

Intel licensed them for a particular line of CPU's ... Nehalem is architecturally different (their assertion) than the previous line, as it has an IMC.

Ars has a useful roundup on this.

THG unfortunately has glossed over the details.


http://arstechnica.com/hardware/news/2009/03/nvidia-countersues-intelright-on-schedule.ars

 

[DjEaZy]

... at the one hand... what goes around, comes around... intel depends on nVidia's GPU patents but forbids ION... on the other hand... don't know... it seams now everybody try to milk intel for money... i agree, that intel waz a bully all previous years and they need to pay, BUT for the things they deserve, like in AMD vs. intel case... but instead to make intel dependent from nVidia, they sue them... not a wise move in long term... [S.F.T.B.E.]

 

[rdagevos]

So this war has begun... imho it's just plain stoopid, why don't they spend their money into more research and get the best out of everything instead of blowing it away in a war... allthough I can understand this whole war, I still think it's stupid

 

[dragunover]

Intel has the right to do whatever they want with their CPU's. It's only a natural progression to have more and more components integrated into a single Chip. Is anyone complaining that the Math Co-processor has been part of the CPU since the 386? Did anyone complain when first AMD and then Intel integrated the Memory controller into the same Chip? You shouldn't hold progress back just because nVidia doesn't like it.

This, Sir, makes no damn sense at all.

 

[-Fran-]

Intel is afraid, period.

GPGPU and ARM/RISC/non-x86 are coming hard today and they don't have a strong way to punch back (Larafail, anyone?). Their fat cow (x86 license BS) is in danger and they'll turn to their lawyers to keep it that way.

I hope nVidia wins this one, even though, they're not the "good" ones either, but at least I see a better consumer-friendly result from nVidia making Intel eat their lawsuit.

Cheers!

 

[Ciuy]

AMD won over INTEL and now nVidia wants a piece of the pie )

 

[rhino13]

Seems like nVidia should be willing to settle out of court and let the market improve; you know, like AMD did.

 

[Guest]

Sounds like most people here are missing the point and beating on the "Rich company". The point is that Intel is closing it's platform to other vendors. They (Nvidia) had a license to produce chipsets for the Core & previous architecture but Intel refused to grant them permission to create chipsets for the i-series chips that include onboard graphics. This is a tech site no a playground for class envy, if you need to vent go to a political site to do so. This is a technical issue not a political one. If they get away with this then we might see them try this with the other vendors who supply chips for their boards. You think Intel boards are expensive now? Wait until they have iron fisted control over it and demand much more for much less.

 

[danielmastia]

[citation][nom]frozenlead[/nom]Nvidia's chipsets were good for their time, but they never really responded to Intel's products. The 680i was good, but Intel responded with the X38/X48 and later the X58, which the 790i never matched.I didn't say Nvidia shouldn't develop chipsets...I just don't think they should be complaining if their product doesn't compete well with the competitions'.[/citation]

You dont seem to comprehend that the issue here is not about performance or if their chipset were better or if it sold well; its about intel not allowing nvidia to develop chipsets for certain platforms.

 

[korel31]

I hope Nvidia wins and gets some of that sweet, sweet Intel IP we need more x86 chipmakers.......

 

[blarger]

[citation][nom]Victomofreality[/nom]I find all the law suits funny... AMD sues intel, nvidia sues intel, and judging by the physx article from today soon AMD sues nvidia.[/citation]
News Update: DX 11 still irrelevant.

 

[hixbot]

[citation][nom]Shin0bi272[/nom]I have a question. If amd bought ati and are now making both cpus and gpus why arent intel and nvidia teaming up? I mean the two biggest players in the market teaming up and working together instead of against each other would make for a definite powerhouse of a pc. But we get these cross platform cross vendor dependencies with intel chipsets pushing crossfire and nvidia making chipsets for amd... reminds me of congress when there's a 1 seat majority lol.[/citation]

You're nuts, the only thing that drives innovation is competition. If Nvidia and Intel teamed up (would never happen), it would hurt the PC in the long run.

 

[knowom]

[citation][nom]hixbot[/nom]You're nuts, the only thing that drives innovation is competition. If Nvidia and Intel teamed up (would never happen), it would hurt the PC in the long run.[/citation]

To be perfectly fair it wouldn't hurt the PC anymore than the AMD/ATI merger which probably should have been rejected because that seems like a huge monopoly it would be like if Nvidia and Activision/Blizzard or EA were to merge.