Nvidia Quadro FX 4800: Workstation Graphics At Its Finest?

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I would like to see the reverse charts - how Workstation Gfx Cards perform on Games (e.g. How the Nvidia Quadro FX 4800 performs on Crysis, CS:S, Doom, Etc.)
 
couldn't you buy one fx4800 for the massive driver support...

and then just buy gtx 280's for the rest and then soft mod them into fx4800's?

that way you save thousands of dollars and get support
 
thogrom, you can't softmod cards after 6800 series. You might get it to identify as a Quadro to Windows, but it will be in name only. The pro features are not available, and you cannot install Quadro drivers. Things have changed. guru3d.com Rivatuner forums go into this.
 
Yes u can (softmod cards after 6800 series) I turned a gf 8600 gt and a gf 8800 gts into quadros, fx 1700 & fx 5600 accordingly. The difference in speed is like dividing by zero. Before I couldn't work medium assemblies-now it works beautifully even in big assemblies in SolidWorks. They are even faster than the 'real' low end quadros my coworkers use.
 
Download quadro drivers (nvidia.com)
download Rivatuner
Rivatuner, customize, low level system settings, nvstrap driver, Graphics adapter id: custom, Use Rom straps...: tick, Allow...: tick, Unlock...: tick, (choose a card)
Restart
Install quadro drivers
 
Won't work for the GT200s though, at least not from what I've read. I was interested in getting a 260 for a softmod but I haven't found an conclusive evidence that it will work.
 
nonameno12, I would love to believe what you say is true, but can you post a screenshot of the "unified back/depth buffer" turned on in your card properties under windows, and can you use realview in SolidWorks? It is possible to change the identity of the card, without actually unlocking it.
 
I would like to see the performance of the workstation card in some games. Some of my apps would benefit from workstation cards on my main pc but I don't want to give up much gaming performance to do so.
 
You might have included the Quadro CX in your closing summary of Nvidia's related offerings: basically an FX 4800 optimized for CS4
 
[citation][nom]yuri22[/nom]nonameno12, I would love to believe what you say is true, but can you post a screenshot of the "unified back/depth buffer" turned on in your card properties under windows, and can you use realview in SolidWorks? It is possible to change the identity of the card, without actually unlocking it.[/citation]
This is what I was hoping Tom's would do an article on. Digging in on some research.
 
[citation][nom]Anonymous[/nom]why do i feel like when everyone compares workstation cards to gaming ones they get it wrong. a 4800 Fx will performs 99% like a 260GTX and if you softmod it to a Quadro than you have the same effect the other way around. really you are paying for driver support. i much rather just pay for the card.[/citation]

Actually you are incorrect. Those of us that are involved in production and uses of professional cards and are also system builders understand the value of a Quadro. The firmware is different and so is the operation of the card. Try a soft-modded GTX 260 against a Quadro FX 4800. I guarantee it won't be the same.

Seriously, do any of you guys research what you're saying, or do you jump on a forum and read some garbage that you take as fact without researching it first? It's ridiculous and an insult to those of us who actually know what we're talking about. I'm in the business as a hardware specialist and a production guy. I've researched it enough, so I suggest you do the same.
 
[citation][nom]h45[/nom]You might have included the Quadro CX in your closing summary of Nvidia's related offerings: basically an FX 4800 optimized for CS4[/citation]

So that they can use up text? The CX is an FX 4800 with additional drivers, which will soon be released for the FX 4800 and 5800 models. I talked to the PNY rep at PSW. Give it six months tops. That's why I went with the 4800 for the workstation I built about a month ago; why should I pay an additional $200+ for drivers that they're going to release soon anyways?
 
[citation][nom]marraco[/nom]I would love to see the performance numbers of the card modded as a geforce, and overclocked.I had utilized some geforces modded as Quadro in Autocad. Nvidia should include good opengl/Quadro drivers in his geforce drivers, and charge an optional premium for support. But there is no reason to buy an really expensive geforce, and have it deeply underutilized with the excuse of giving a "driver support" wich I never utilized.the real reason of the Quadro premium price, is that ATI and Nvidia have a oligopoly.If they have more competence, they would charge an unique price. And the 280 is already expensive as a Geforce.[/citation]

You're a real genius aren't you? Have you lost your mind? The firmware is different. If your card is told to execute the render of each frame completely, it's not going to work as well for gaming! You know what the real problem is? You have no idea what you're talking about. It has nothing to do with price fixing.

Also, anybody who actually has reason to buy these cards can easily afford them. I just built a system with an FX 4800 what cost $3750 in parts, and it's making over $75,000 a month (gross, not net, mind you). I think that's worth the cost.

[citation][nom]scoob[/nom]I wish the Quadro cx would have been included in the tests, Im more into Video editing but there is alot one can do with 3D programs to make your projects even better and im gonna build a new workstation and im a little confused lol, the Quadro Cx is fantastic with Adobe Premier but does it also kickass with other editing software (Avid,,,).[/citation]

The CX includes the most current CS4 drivers, and in a few months it won't make a difference. Can any of you read? Can any of you use google, or pick up a phone and call a rep? You guys are unbelievable! I thought Tom's was having trouble, and look at you guys. Just plain awful.
 
[citation][nom]resonance451[/nom]Try a soft-modded GTX 260 against a Quadro FX 4800. I guarantee it won't be the same.Seriously, do any of you guys research what you're saying, or do you jump on a forum and read some garbage that you take as fact without researching it first?[/citation]
Well DUR!

The GT200 don't softmod like any other cards (if at all).
 
Why not manufacture a single card that automatically optimizes itself to suit the software that the client wishes to utilize within that specific moment.

Enough with this BS specialization, that we see is the problem within all of the other industries: where the foot doctor doesn't have any idea in what fashion the brain is affecting the patients' foot...requiring the patient to purchase the more expensive specialty of the head-doctor.
 
My Idea is, enough of the over expensive "professional open GL"
Quadro's and Firepro's
They are less capable from the games ones and overpriced cause of some driver that's qualified for the professional market.
We need the fastest Card to work on our 3d software and at the same time play some games.
At the pace we need to change cards the 2k ones is crap except if someone else pay for it.
I am not fan of anyone but Ati prices was always more friendly on the professional area so i wish they rethink the idea and deliver one card for both worlds.
That's how they will overtake Nvidia, the market for Pro cards that can play games is HUGE.
 
[citation][nom]yuri22[/nom]nonameno12, I'm still waiting for the screen shots...[/citation]
I don't believe he ever agreed to give any screenshots. Since he hasn't replied since you asked, he may not have seen your request.
 
Tindytim, it is my assertion that it is not possible anyway. Here is a quote from Unwinder on guru3d

Quote:
Originally Posted by makabress
no news about G92 nvstrap???? or script patch

"No news and no plans to create add G9x+ support to driver, sorry. The first task in after releaseing v2.20 in my "to do" list is a major update of statistics server. NVSrtap is useless with modern chips anyway and doesn't give anything but PCI DeviceID changing to new chips so the task doesn't worth the efforts. "

Unwinder as you probably know is the author of Rivatuner, which is coming up on 10,000,000 downloads. He knows what he's talking about.
 
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