News Nvidia's RTX 4070 Reportedly Launching in April

600 or 700 dollars for the 70 while the 60 ti is going to be either 4xx or 5xx dollars... With the same price increase trends we can expect to buy something called an 8080 with a 128-bit bus for 999 in 6-8 years.
 
Just in time for all the April Fools...smh @ 4000 series pricing.
RTX 3080 Ti MSRP: $1200
RTX 3090 MSRP: $1500
RTX 3090 Ti MSRP: $2000
RTX 4070 Ti MSRP: $800
RTX 4080 MSRP: $1200
RTX 4090 MSRP: $1600

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RTX 3080 Ti MSRP: $1200
RTX 3090 MSRP: $1500
RTX 3090 Ti MSRP: $2000
RTX 4070 Ti MSRP: $800
RTX 4080 MSRP: $1200
RTX 4090 MSRP: $1600

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The GeForce 256 cost $249 at launch, and the RTX 4070 is going to be at least 1000x more powerful. So, when you factor in inflation, the RTX4070 would be an extremely great value at a meager $$236,000.

Because, in today's monopoly healthy competitive market, technology performance is expected to increase linearly with pricing, regardless of product age or obsceneness.
 
600 or 700 dollars for the 70 while the 60 ti is going to be either 4xx or 5xx dollars... With the same price increase trends we can expect to buy something called an 8080 with a 128-bit bus for 999 in 6-8 years.
I would expect the 4070 MSRP to be more in the $600-$650 range. If these specs are accurate, then performance may be cut by up to 25% compared to the Ti, arguably making a close-to-25% lower price most fitting. $700 is probably too close to the price of the Ti given what will probably be a relatively large performance deficit.

RTX 3080 Ti MSRP: $1200
RTX 3090 MSRP: $1500
RTX 3090 Ti MSRP: $2000
RTX 4070 Ti MSRP: $800
RTX 4080 MSRP: $1200
RTX 4090 MSRP: $1600
Not an ideal comparison when you leave out the 3080, that launched at a $700 MSRP. The 4070 Ti can perform over 20% faster, but it has a 14% higher MSRP, which is not exactly great gains considering that card came out nearly 2.5 years ago. Comparing it to some cards that launched with grossly inflated prices at the peak of the mining rush isn't exactly relevant now. And the 3090 was always intended to be more of a semi-professional card, or for those willing to pay a large premium for a little more performance.
 
I would expect the 4070 MSRP to be more in the $600-$650 range. If these specs are accurate, then performance may be cut by up to 25% compared to the Ti, arguably making a close-to-25% lower price most fitting. $700 is probably too close to the price of the Ti given what will probably be a relatively large performance deficit.


Not an ideal comparison when you leave out the 3080, that launched at a $700 MSRP. The 4070 Ti can perform over 20% faster, but it has a 14% higher MSRP, which is not exactly great gains considering that card came out nearly 2.5 years ago. Comparing it to some cards that launched with grossly inflated prices at the peak of the mining rush isn't exactly relevant now. And the 3090 was always intended to be more of a semi-professional card, or for those willing to pay a large premium for a little more performance.
Not only does the $800 4070 Ti 12GB use less power while outperforming the 3080 10GB, but it also supports DLSS3. I'm guessing most peeps would spend the extra $100 for the 4070 Ti if given the choice.
 
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Not an ideal comparison when you leave out the 3080, that launched at a $700 MSRP. The 4070 Ti can perform over 20% faster, but it has a 14% higher MSRP, which is not exactly great gains considering that card came out nearly 2.5 years ago. Comparing it to some cards that launched with grossly inflated prices at the peak of the mining rush isn't exactly relevant now. And the 3090 was always intended to be more of a semi-professional card, or for those willing to pay a large premium for a little more performance.

This nails it on the head exactly. I imagine a large chunk of the sales of those overpriced cards were to miners and mining companies. Nvidia realized they should have priced their products much higher, why do you think they made a 3080 12GB and Ti that sold for much higher and it became increasingly harder to find the 3080 10GB (original)? They wanted that profit for themselves. Now that mining is dead they still want to sell at these overinflated prices and the market is telling them NO. Only the 4090 is selling well and that's because it, sadly, has the best price to performance ratio compared to last gens models.

Not only does the $800 4070 Ti 12GB use less power while outperforming the 3080 10GB, but it also supports DLSS3. I'm guessing most peeps would spend the extra $100 for the 4070 Ti if given the choice.

This is a terrible sell. I no of know one from my circle that would do this. In fact, everyone I know is holding onto their existing cards until this pricing madness stops.
 
This nails it on the head exactly. I imagine a large chunk of the sales of those overpriced cards were to miners and mining companies. Nvidia realized they should have priced their products much higher, why do you think they made a 3080 12GB and Ti that sold for much higher and it became increasingly harder to find the 3080 10GB (original)? They wanted that profit for themselves. Now that mining is dead they still want to sell at these overinflated prices and the market is telling them NO. Only the 4090 is selling well and that's because it, sadly, has the best price to performance ratio compared to last gens models.

This is a terrible sell. I no of know one from my circle that would do this. In fact, everyone I know is holding onto their existing cards until this pricing madness stops.
I take it your friends are using older gpu's. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that the $800 RTX 4070 Ti 12GB outperforms the $1000 RTX 2080 Ti 11GB.

RTX 2080 Ti MSRP: $1000
RTX 3080 Ti MSRP: $1200
RTX 3090 MSRP: $1500
RTX 3090 Ti MSRP: $2000
RTX 4070 Ti MSRP: $800
RTX 4080 MSRP: $1200
RTX 4090 MSRP: $1600
 
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I'm guessing this will be $700, massively overpriced if it's a little faster than the 3070. The price to performance increase over the 30 series will be woeful.
 
Not only does the $800 4070 Ti 12GB use less power while outperforming the 3080 10GB, but it also supports DLSS3. I'm guessing most peeps would spend the extra $100 for the 4070 Ti if given the choice.
DLSS3 is just DLSS2 with the option for generating fake frames in-between real ones. Which might be a decent way to improve smoothness a bit for some slower-paced titles, but due to the way it works, input latency is actually increased compared to the original frame rate, and in many cases there's potential for noticeable visual artifacts. So it's not like doubling FPS, so much as it is delaying the newest frame so that an interpolated frame of variable quality can be inserted between it and the last one. That could be useful for some titles, but isn't as useful as Nvidia 's market slides might have you believe.

I take it your friends are using older gpu's. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that the $800 RTX 4070 Ti 12GB outperforms the $1000 RTX 2080 Ti 11GB.

RTX 2080 Ti MSRP: $1000
RTX 3080 Ti MSRP: $1200
RTX 3090 MSRP: $1500
RTX 3090 Ti MSRP: $2000
RTX 4070 Ti MSRP: $800
RTX 4080 MSRP: $1200
RTX 4090 MSRP: $1600
But now you're comparing it to a card that came out around 4.5 years ago. Obviously the performance at a given price level is expected to improve each generation. With the previous generation, the 3070 brought 2080 Ti level gaming performance down to $500, or at least was intended to until crypto miners disrupted the market. It was to offer around 50% higher frame rates at the same price point as the 2070. Those are the kinds of performance gains that get people excited for new hardware. The 4070 Ti similarly offers around 50% more performance than a 3070, but its MSRP is 60% higher. So, the price to performance ratio is roughly the same after 2.5 years.
 
If I’m not mistaken the 6700xt and rtx 3070 are the same performance as the 2080ti.

I fully expect the 4070 to be overpriced at 700. Maybe 750. 4060ti at 600-650, then 4060 probably 500. So that should put your 4050ti if there is that model at 400-450. I mean was it that long ago that a 1050ti was 150-200?

Personally I’m holding onto my 3080 10gb for another year or two. For 1440p that should be just fine. DLSS is a nice to have but imo DLSS is just fake performance. Hopefully amd fsr keeps catching up. Who knows next card I might shop for an Intel card. The prices nvidia and even amd are wanting are getting ridiculous and need to come WAY down.
 

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RTX 3080 Ti MSRP: $1200
RTX 3090 MSRP: $1500
RTX 3090 Ti MSRP: $2000
RTX 4070 Ti MSRP: $800
RTX 4080 MSRP: $1200
RTX 4090 MSRP: $1600

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The 90 series on sure...only up 100 dollars. BUT the 4080 series now cost 3080Ti tier sku, the 4070 Ti costs 3080 tier sku and it looks like lower down the stack is just as bad. Everything going up in cost one sku. As stated SMH...for april's fools and no not the 1st.
 
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The 90 series on sure...only up 100 dollars. BUT the 4080 series now cost 3080Ti tier sku, the 4070 Ti costs 3080 tier sku and it looks like lower down the stack is just as bad. Everything going up in cost one sku. As stated SMH...for april's fools and no not the 1st.
The 4070 Ti mops the floor with the 3080 and uses less power doing it.
 

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The 4070 Ti mops the floor with the 3080 and uses less power doing it.

It does and always should have (generationally speaking) BUT it doesn't make the pricing right...or even justifible. That is my point. They've increased every sub 90 by one pricing sku gen on gen. That is a huge mark up, the largest jump in recent history if not ever.
 
It does and always should have (generationally speaking) BUT it doesn't make the pricing right...or even justifible. That is my point. They've increased every sub 90 by one pricing sku gen on gen. That is a huge mark up, the largest jump in recent history if not ever.
I just go by the benchmarks tbh. Take the GTX 1080 Ti for example. That card had an MSRP of $700 and it runs head to head with an RTX 3060.
 

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I just go by the benchmarks tbh. Take the GTX 1080 Ti for example. That card had an MSRP of $700 and it runs head to head with an RTX 3060.
I can understand paying attention to benchies but price is paramount too. You can't decide unilatterally to increase costs on nearly every sku by a full sku and not piss off consumers. To be clear AMD is nearly as bad as Nvidia when it comes to pricing greed this gen. They are both charging far more per mm² of silicon than ever before...
 

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Not only does the $800 4070 Ti 12GB use less power while outperforming the 3080 10GB, but it also supports DLSS3. I'm guessing most peeps would spend the extra $100 for the 4070 Ti if given the choice.
That'd be me. I've wanted to buy a 3080 since launch, but could never find one (new) close to MSRP - including right now. I can find tons of 4070 Ti cards that are $100 cheaper than the cheapest 3080 I've seen lately. I could buy a used 3080 on eBay for maybe $650, but I'd rather spend the extra $150-200 for something new with AV1 encoding, better power efficiency, and DLSS3.

It may not be the 50% performance bump at the same price point that most of us hoped for. But since I was planning to buy a 3080 anyway, it's fine with me.

Praying to god "intel save us" Faith in raja koduri release The krakennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn... (Another vega)
I remember everyone expecting AMD to save us just 2-3 months ago. : P
 
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