Official Benchmarks: Radeon 4850/70 PWNAGE! (Anand does it!)

[chunkymonster]

The 4850 CF benches are very impressive given the price.

This looks very good for the 4870 and the 4870X2. Very good indeed. Looking forward to the benches are further reviews. Methinks a 4870 might be my next gpu.

I laugh at the the fanboy comments about ATI sandwiching two gpu's into one card or needing two cards in CF to meet/match/be slightly ahead of a single GTX280. What's really ironic about it though is it's also fanboys that defend the Intel appraoch of "gluing" two dual cores onto a die to make quad core. Fanboys are sooo fickle! :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[WR2]

4850 on sale and in stock even as we speak (ok type) for $279US (or 1695 Swedish Crowns)

 

[cyph0r]

4850 on sale and in stock even as we speak (ok type) for $279US (or 1695 Swedish Crowns)

Wait for a US Etailer it will be much cheeper

 

[CSA_Myth]

If rumors are true there is one more thing to remember about the new 4780x2's. They are going to be a bit different than the past x2/Gx2's dual GPU cards. Where older generations were pretty much CF/SLI chips on a single card, the 4870x2 is going with out the PCI-E connect board (Kind of like the previously mentioned gluing 2 C2D to get a Quad), in other words they will not need CF support.

They will run games/software as if it is a single chip card, if they can get the shared memory to work as well with DDR 5, we may see the end of monolithic chips. This is all rumored but it is something to think about after seeing the 4850 in CF.

 

[radnor]

4850 on sale and in stock even as we speak (ok type) for $279US (or 1695 Swedish Crowns)

As usual we european eat with the biggest prices. As usual..pfff.

Fack !!!
Asus Radeon HD4850 512 MB GDDR3 PCI-e 163 €
http://www.pccomponentes.com/ASUS_RADEON_HD4850_512_MB_GDDR3_PCI_E.html



For 300€ ill have a similar performance to a:

Asus GeForce GTX 280 1GB GDDR3 PCI-e 525€
http://www.pccomponentes.com/ASUS_GEFORCE_GTX_280_1GB_GDDR3_PCI_E.html
(no stock on this one btw)



Let me think....525€ or 326€ ? For ruffly the same performance ? Really. If this pricing is real, well, 9800GX2 and 9800GTX are no sell able. Lets wait and see what happens to 3870 and 3850 boards.

 

[clay12340]

Am I the only one seeing a review with almost no useful information? I mean why are you running a dual card solution and not testing the AA/AF performance etc. It looks to me like the GTX280 is solidly trouncing the dual 4850s aside from in some synthetics, World in Conflict, and UT3. In the intense synthetics the GTX280 seems to do better anyhow.

No one is going to drop $400 on two cards for a machine that is going to play without AA or in lower resolutions. There are too many good single card solutions for that purpose. The 4850 looks like a nice budget card and it looks promising for the 4870.


If you read 3Ball's link it has a little bit more interesting benchmarks. I don't see that these cards in crossfire are a better price/performance solution in the high end as they don't look to me like they'll be performing very well in the high end. The GTX280 is going to shine more and more as intensity goes up. These cards are going to be amazing in low intensity situations, but that is an area that simply doesn't matter. Crossfire just doesn't make sense in the low-mid range.

 

[Ycon]

Actually I see the 4850 get a healthy beating -.-

nVidia wont even release a dual-GPU card this time but it will still have the fastest setups on the market...

 

[vertigo_2000]

Other than the Tweaktown review, I haven't read any others... do any of them mention the noise factor of ATI's 4800 series?

The 280 has been compared to a small jet engine.

2 4800's must be fairly loud as well... no??

 

[spathotan]

I wouldnt count on that price. With 4870s a few weeks behind the 4850s and with if that type of performance shown by Tweaktown review holds up you'll be lucky to get your hands on any 4850 below $250.

Actually I just bought 2 4850's from FX for $189 each.

 

[dattimr]

http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=579&type=expert&pid=7

New "preview" of the 4850, however, without CrossFire.

 

[3Ball]

Other than the Tweaktown review, I haven't read any others... do any of them mention the noise factor of ATI's 4800 series?

The 280 has been compared to a small jet engine.

2 4800's must be fairly loud as well... no??

My assumption is that they wont be to quiet with those single slot coolers...Im not even considering the 4850, but if I did the single slot cooler would deter me.

Best,

3Ball

 

[50bmg]

Yeah, what about heat, power, noise, etc?

I have a 3870 xfire rig (see sig). I score 18,800 on 3dmark06. The 4850 xfire in the review scored 17,900. Not bad for a mid level card for $200 ea. The 3870 was $250 when it came out.

I personally thinke 2 xfired 4850s for $400 with 50-150FPS on max settings is a better deal than $600 dollars for 10% more FPS.

Well, i like the Intel chipset line anyways, so i am going single big card or xfire anyways. It makes sense for me to go ATI with Intel chipsets supporting Xfire. I am one of the users the reviews conclusion was speaking of.

 

[dattimr]

My assumption is that they wont be to quiet with those single slot coolers...Im not even considering the 4850, but if I did the single slot cooler would deter me.

Best,

3Ball

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Powercolor/HD_4850/22.html

They're still posting the scores, however, the "conclusion" and the noise sections are already finished. The card is damn quiet.

 

[pcgamer12]

PcPer says the card idles at 76c, it may be quiet, but it gets real hot, it idles at 14% fan speed on auto, that's why its quiet. Hopefully driver revisions will up it to about 30% or higher to keep temps down.

 

[bydesign]

It only wins one or two real benchmarks? The OP should be banned for the title or apply for a job at MSNBC or CNN. While in crossfire it is impressive at the price point it's nothing to get excited about.

I mean will it get 60FPS in AoC at 1900x1200? That's the magic number and until there is a single card solution that can run min FPS of 60 in high-end titles I'm not going to be impressed or satisfied.

 

[draxssab]

http://www.hardware.fr/articles/724-1/preview-ati-radeon-hd-4850.html

This review is based on the Europe pre-launch of the 4850. It's in french if you can read it like me, if not, numbers speeks by themselves! It beats the 260GTX in some games, even with AA filter! impressive. I can't wait to see the tests of the HD4870! I think it could beats the 280GTX in some place, and i'm not speaking of the 4870X2!!

Good job ATI!!

 

[dattimr]

It only wins one or two real benchmarks? The OP should be banned for the title or apply for a job at MSNBC or CNN. While in crossfire it is impressive at the price point it's nothing to get excited about.

I mean will it get 60FPS in AoC at 1900x1200? That's the magic number and until there is a single card solution that can run min FPS of 60 in high-end titles I'm not going to be impressed or satisfied.

Sorry, but are we looking at the same card? Well, it's not the best solution performance-wise, but I'm looking at the performance-per-buck ratio. 2 sub-200$ cards performing *CLOSE* to a 650$ one in most benchmarks? It's "bang-for-the-buck pwnage" for me. Perhaps I should chance the title.

 

[mihirkula]

Hmmmnnn i'm not very impressed ... for Crysis 8800GT SLI gives 34 FPS at 1280 and 25 FPS at 1920....compared to 32 and 22 FPS respectively for 4850 CF .... .... and 8800GT SLI costs a good $90 less.

G92 8800GTS SLI gives 38-40 FPS at 1440 too. Thats still $50 cheaper than 4850 CF

 

[pcgamer12]

I'm surprised.

I'm glad I didn't wait for new cards to be released, my 8800GT 512mb can hold its own for years to come. I don't plan to buy Crysis so I'm good, nor World In Conflict.

Orange Box FTW!! 5 games for $40! HAHAHAHAH

 

[dattimr]

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Powercolor/HD_4850/7.html

Company of Heroes, Far Cry and FEAR scores have been updated.

 

[3Ball]

http://www.hardware.fr/articles/724-1/preview-ati-radeon-hd-4850.html

This review is based on the Europe pre-launch of the 4850. It's in french if you can read it like me, if not, numbers speeks by themselves! It beats the 260GTX in some games, even with AA filter! impressive. I can't wait to see the tests of the HD4870! I think it could beats the 280GTX in some place, and i'm not speaking of the 4870X2!!

Good job ATI!!

This is a very good review (showed the single cards that I wanted to see)...I wander what they plan on furthering in their "full" review that they said they will be releasing in the future? Hopefully some 1680x1050 benchies with a few more games. My prefered game setting is 1680x1050 with 4x AA. I have a 20" monitor so with that res and level of AA the picture is very good. I picked that monitor becaue of the high level of pixels per square inch, so that even without AA games look very good, but I still like it! lol

Best,

3Ball

 

[SpinachEater]

As usual we european eat with the biggest prices. As usual..pfff.

Yeah sorry Europe. The pricing hurts.

 

[Reynod]

Despite the NV cards being faster for a single card the real issue is the cost of production and the yields.

The new NV dies are massive ... and will cost a fortune to produce ... which must be passed on to the consumer.

The new AMD dies are much smaller, cooler and cheaper to produce.

ATI will kill NV on cost.

To produce cards as X2 or in pairs to compete at a lower cost point will be a deliberate strategy to target NV.

Volumes for AMD will be high so expect the prices to drop.

I'll take 5 thanks ... the kids don't need CF ...

 

[crimsonfilms]

Sucks to be ATI
http://www.pcper.com/comments.php?nid=5814

 

[San Pedro]

Sucks to be ATI
http://www.pcper.com/comments.php?nid=5814

Yeah when their mid-range cards matches the performance of a card that's more expensive. The 8800GT in the review was also an OC'd one meaning that it's in the same price range as the 4850. The 9800GTX is not viable option any longer once compared to the 4850.