Official Intel Ivy Bridge Discussion

[EXT64]

Hyper 212+ is a good cooler for the price. There definitely are better ones, but you can often find the 212+ between $15-$25 in the US (not sure about other countries).

 

[g4114rd0]

IB water, my friend…”

 

[gecko97]

Okay, so should I get a different cooler to replace to stock cooler that comes with the Ivy or is it not something to really worry about? Extra heat does worry me a bit.

I wouldn't worry about an aftermarket cooler if you aren't overclocking, I'm not sure where exactly I read it but I am pretty sure that Ivy is actually quite cool when running at stock clock and voltage

 

[licktheenvelope]

I wouldn't worry about an aftermarket cooler if you aren't overclocking, I'm not sure where exactly I read it but I am pretty sure that Ivy is actually quite cool when running at stock clock and voltage

Ya from the info it seems like stock it's not bad and the temps aren't even bad until you get over 1.3... 1.35 volts? Somewhere in there it spikes.

 

[Reynod]

Intel i7 3770K Temperature Measured Without IHS..."

http://www.overclock.net/t/1249419/pcevaluation-intel-i7-3770k-temperature-measured-without-ihs

Cheers !!

Looks like the poor thermal conductivity due to the TIM under the IHS was in fact not the problem at all.

So not much point ripping it off.

Also they seem to be having a good chuckle at the chuckleheads over there who predicted IVB chips would post 5Ghz overclocks easy ... lol ... 5.5 even.

Looking back through our sticky (which has been renamed ( http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/303971-28-haswell-news-rumors-reviews ) there are likely to be a few enthusiastic "Baronesque" posts by Intel fans I'm sure.

I'll see if I can find a few and post em here for a laugh ... baa ... maybe not.

Anyway ... ripping off the IHS seems a bit pointless.

Still ... I can see the mobile version doing very well by the looks of it, and for those of us who don't want to carry around a refrigerator or a 20 Gallon esky full of ice it sure looks fine as it is ... just don't push it too far.

 

[Reynod]

Imagination
Passion
Purpose
Potential

Prepare to get small overclock !!!



thanks for the link Mal !!

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10101273161570850&set=vb.22707976849&type=2&theater

 

[bshth]

Benchmark from Korea community. Out of 30 3570k's 3 of them needed 1.3v to OC to 4.5ghz... and most of them failed to reach 4.8ghz... even if it did, you already can imagine the temperature

Here is the link. http://www.playwares.com/xe/22933569

 

[precursoris]

If I am making a gaming build, but not planning to overclock, which CPU should I go for: i5-2500k or the i5-3450? Or i5-3570k?

 

[precursoris]

The i5-2500k is the same price as the i5-3550. Is the i5-3550 better in terms of performance?

 

[-Fran-]

depends on preference (up or sideways) | motherboard | case and budget.
as mentioned the Hyper 212+ Evo is nice..

The TT Frio (not the OCK) is quite good as well; it's also cheap. The CM V8 (and V6) are also viable options IMO. I would recommend to stay away from Zalman's line though... Their lock mechanism sucks.

And reynod, I really hoped for IB to be a fantastic OC'er... Intel just focused on another thing when developing IB 8(

Cheers!

 

[Cazalan]

Looks like Intel did it on purpose.
Now they can market an "Extreme edition" with solder attached IHS and charge extra.

 

[Reynod]

Thats what I initially thought too but the IHS doesn't seem to be the issue at all.

Seems to be more like the chip area is so small now the heat can't conduct to the cooler base well enough.

 

[Cazalan]

Thats what I initially thought too but the IHS doesn't seem to be the issue at all.

Seems to be more like the chip area is so small now the heat can't conduct to the cooler base well enough.

Solder paste conducts better than the white goop they were using on that test.

 

[precursoris]

What can an Ivy Bridge do that a Sandy Bridge can't?

 

[-Fran-]

Solder paste conducts better than the white goop they were using on that test.

They also have different conductive properties when the heat goes up IIRC. Paste usually gets less conductive when solders loose just a tad of it at high temps.

There were some curves/graphics that show the thermal properties of the materials at certain temp points just like car oil has theirs (though, not the same effect, hahaha).

Cheers!

 

[Robi_g]

Wow, just read all 5 pages :O
Everyone's on about high temps but didn't anandteck get the clock up to 4.5ghz on 1.1V stable and the temps didn't look too bad then.

 

[licktheenvelope]

What can an Ivy Bridge do that a Sandy Bridge can't?

Which one?

-Uses less power
-better integrated graphics
-PCI Express 3.0 Support
-Higher max CPU multiplier
-Quick Sync
-5-13% more power stock (depending on application)

 

[precursoris]

Which one?

-Uses less power
-better integrated graphics
-PCI Express 3.0 Support
-Higher max CPU multiplier
-Quick Sync
-5-13% more power stock (depending on application)

So all of these differences apply to say, the i5-3750k vs the i5-2500k?

 

[josejones]

^ You probably mean the i5 3570k I would assume but yes, all those apply to the Ivy Bridge CPU and not Sandy Bridge.

http://www.cpu-world.com/news_2011/2011112702_Ivy_Bridge_desktop_CPU_lineup_details_part_II.html

And to think I was actually considering getting an AMD Bulldozer at Christmas time 2011 - until they came out that is. If I already had a Sandy Bridge set-up I would certainly wait for Haswell and the z87 chipset but, my system is old and the i7 3770 is a 2,000% or 20 times performance increase for me!

 

[licktheenvelope]

^ You probably mean the i5 3570k I would assume but yes, all those apply to the Ivy Bridge CPU and not Sandy Bridge.

http://www.cpu-world.com/news_2011/2011112702_Ivy_Bridge_desktop_CPU_lineup_details_part_II.html

And to think I was actually considering getting an AMD Bulldozer at Christmas time 2011 - until they came out that is. If I already had a Sandy Bridge set-up I would certainly wait for Haswell and the z87 chipset but, my system is old and the i7 3770 is a 2,000% or 20 times performance increase for me!

Ya the general consensus is that if you have SB you're better off waiting for Haswell but if you have older tech (like me) you're better off on IB... UNLESS you really need to OC past 4.5 ghz for some reason.

 

[earl45]

A pretty good deal !!!!!!!!

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0388575

 

[mactronix]

Well I have been fishing around and I plan to do an upgrade on an AMD system and I figure I can save a packet with very minimal performance loss and get better hardware, mainly the quality of the motherboard. by sticking with a Z68 board.

I can get this board http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-342-GI&groupid=701&catid=5&subcat=1990

Which seems to do all I want

With a Z77 it would be this board http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-390-GI&groupid=701&catid=5&subcat=2261

Now personally I don't think the feature set offsets the near £25 jump.

I'm going from a 555BE that unlocks to 3 cores, just in case any one was wondering.

So any thought guys ?

Mactronix

 

[Reynod]

Wow, just read all 5 pages :O
Everyone's on about high temps but didn't anandteck get the clock up to 4.5ghz on 1.1V stable and the temps didn't look too bad then.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5763/undervolting-and-overclocking-on-ivy-bridge


Yes but anything higher becomes a massive heat problem ... so overvolting is dangerous without a great honking cooler I guess.

 

[mactronix]

Z68 Gen3 board is still a quality move, I have a variant of that Gigabyte motherboard myself.
what's your GPU configuration and your going with what, 2500K.?

Well I was waiting for the 660Ti or what ever the 560Ti replacement will be called.
CPU yes looking at a 2500K only chip that makes sense really.
I may well just build it around my 5850 for now and wait for the GPU upgrade latter when it comes.

Mactronix

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

or (and I hate to say this....) get a GTX 570 on sale...
with the way nVidia are releasing (lesser performing) chips as upper level GPU's because of Radeon's lack luster performance,
odds are nVidia will continue to do so and in the end....
GTX 570 or GTX 580 (super sale) will be acceptable.
(for me anyways)..

First of all, you have to be able to even get a 680, which seems almost vaporware as availibility, then you have the big K right around the corner?
Talk as they will, nVidia hasnt shown alot of production or cards, just 1 you may or may not be able to get when you want one.

Im not so sure a killer HS will help IB, not by much