OH YEAH! Placing order for new machine now!

[proof]

Wimp.

I hope he will post a video of him benchmarking his system so when he runs 3DMark and AquakMark we can watch his system crash. And please mosey on over to this thred and tell these people I am right.

http://forumz.tomshardware.com/hardware/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=1578046#1578046

 

[billystringer]

Hey I know I'm late to this party but what's with all the thumping of Rosewill? I've used them many times (psu, usb, sata) and not had one problem. Please don't flame me, just looking for info, thanks.

-The String

 

[NamelessMC]

You know what, I'm going to go out on a limb and side with the original poster on this one.

What the hell's the matter with you guys?

You assume everyone has the patience to over-clock their hardware.

Take it with a grain of salt, every over-clocking guide has this stamped in fine print. "You are lowering the life time of your hardware, most likely voiding the warranty, and risking burning out your components when you over-clock. Do it with caution, because your mileage will vary."

As soon as he said, "I am not planning on over-clocking", you should've just laid off him. An X2 5200+ beats anything from Intel in the price range. It beats the 6400 and 6300 and handily hands the 4300 a beating. Sure, the Conroe's and Allendales easily over-clock to QX speeds, but does that change the fact that stock for stock the AMD out performs them?

He wanted the best CPU chip for $205 and he didn't want to over-clock to take advantage of it. It was his choice and you guys bagged on him for it.

I'll agree though, the Rosewill was a poor choice of a power supply with the 8800GTX, but it's still a quality PSU. Jonnyguru gave it a good rating. Are any of you going to have the tenacity to say you know more about a PSU's quality over Jonnyguru? I don't think any of you do, and I think Mpilchfamily would agree with that.

The Rosewill will comfortably power an X2 and an 8800GTX at stock speeds just fine. Should he upgrade to a better PSU? Yes, definitely. Will the Rosewill last until then? Yes, definitely. The only reason the Rosewill PSU was a mistake, is because it's quite frankly a $50 PSU being thrown in a $1500 system. In my opinion, that's a bad way to have done it, but since he said he's going to upgrade to a better one, why the hell did you guys single him out and flame him like that?

Seriously grow up guys. His insults to you might've been harsh and rash, but they were far from unwarranted.

 

[Emtiph]

Seriously grow up guys.

Grow up? People who tell others to "Grow up" are just being hypocritical. Telling people to simply "Grow up" doesn't solve anything... you're just attempting to imply that you're mentally more sophisticated, which is usually not the case... seeing as you have just told them to "Grow up".

Make your point, but don't attempt to imply that you're superior to everyone else.

 

[Sheepish]

Just to complete the thread - like Proof already said....

 

[yakyb]

okay guys just to stop this bitching i quickly headed over to the CPU charts. what he has there is the equvilant of a 6400 (according to Fear and UT4 benches) (on stock) which according to uk prices is £5 cheaper (not taking into account the MOBO) guys this is an okay build

well apart from the PSU!

 

[lx_flier]

This thread has cause a lot of flaming :lol:.

 

[Emtiph]

guys this is an okay build

well apart from the PSU!

yeah, we establishd this in like the first few posts.

 

[yakyb]

S**T didn't realise this was a 7 page thread only read the first page oh well

 

[proof]

We got another flamer!

Just kidding. What kind of info you looking for?

 

[pseudopeon]

Flame-Fest! :roll:
"...rock your face off..." - Well done Sir! :lol:

 

[proof]

There are quite a few of us here that "really know our stuff". If you would like to start a thread for a debate with whomever you choose to challenge us RobsX2 and I would be happy to stomp them. I have many times the hardware and software experience that you do. I think the same goes for RobsX2. As evidenced further by our rigs we are not n00bs. Albeit we have expensive rigs that could be confused for a n00b buying the most expensive stuff on newegg, if you look closer you will see that every part has a purpose and nothing is just randomly picked out. I may not know as much about PSUs as whoeverthefuckyoumentioned but I am pretty sure that I could stomp you, the OP, and most other people you will come in contact with here. (MOST, someone always knows more than you no matter how smart you are. And no offeesnse to anyone here.) So yes, start a thread and lets debate.

 

[proof]

My retarded uncle's inbread parapalegic daughters' inbread infant daughter could have that debate.

 

[pseudopeon]

Ouch :roll:
That's a little low.

 

[jeff_2087]

What are you his boyfriend now or something? :roll: There is nothing wrong with us. When the OP was given advice unless it was something he wanted to hear he would act like a complete **** about it. :roll:

It doesn't help when one is a complete **** about giving it. Perhaps you do not understand the line between "providing advice" and "imposing our beliefs upon others". One is good, the other is very bad. We can give polite advice, but that's all. If he chooses not to agree with the advice, we have no right to continue attempting to impose it where it is not wanted. It's his question, it's his choice. Not yours.

There are quite a few of us here that "really know our stuff". If you would like to start a thread for a debate with whomever you choose to challenge us RobsX2 and I would be happy to stomp them. I have many times the hardware and software experience that you do. I think the same goes for RobsX2. As evidenced further by our rigs we are not n00bs. Albeit we have expensive rigs that could be confused for a n00b buying the most expensive stuff on newegg, if you look closer you will see that every part has a purpose and nothing is just randomly picked out. I may not know as much about PSUs as whoeverthefuckyoumentioned but I am pretty sure that I could stomp you, the OP, and most other people you will come in contact with here. (MOST, someone always knows more than you no matter how smart you are. And no offeesnse to anyone here.) So yes, start a thread and lets debate.

This is unbelievably arrogant. You're claiming your opinion is law because you think you know everything better than everyone else. You don't. And if you did, it wouldn't matter anyway because that still doesn't give you the right to tell others what to do. I wouldn't care if you're Gordon Moore or the Pope himself, once you start telling people what to do you're ALWAYS WRONG.

 

[rochin]

WOW! 7 pages! That is much more than I ever thought this thread would go. Not that the OP really took any of the advice, but each to his own. If he was wanting to save money waiting of the price drops would have been the way to go. I still stand behind my idea that the e4300 is almost effortless to overclock. If it did shorten the life of the CPU i do not think the OP would have the computer long enough to find out. Also a point was made that people always say the will not over clock and then you see them a few months later asking if the OC they just did is any good. So after april 22 the e4300 will be vastly cheaper than the AMD chip he is getting so he could have saved alot by A. waiting and B getting an intel CPU.

As always this is my opnion, if you do not like it, i do not care.

 

[PCAnalyst]

 

[proof]

(MOST, someone always knows more than you no matter how smart you are. And no offesnse to anyone here.)

This was aimed at ME.

 

[Curmudgeon5462]

RobsX2, to this point, you have proven to the entire forum that you are a prick, yes please do read from page 1, you will see that people were calling my build a POS, but never said why until later on, aside from jeff_2087, who actually made a decent recomendation.

"Looks like it worked to me, just look at this big dramatic response I got out of you from it "

Wow Rob, you responded with all the finesse of a mentally handycapped 12 year old with that. You might as well have copied and pasted what I posted about you, dumbass.

Not to say your not smart, its just that Ive taken wittier shits than you.

"I will be more than glad to stomp your ass for real. "

Wow RobsX2, I hope to grow up to be just like you one day, Quite manly to threaten people over a forum, douchebag. When I dont drive all the way to Charlotte I'll bet you'll take that as an ego boost and say to yourself "that pussy didnt come because hes scared of me". Sure jackass.

Oh, and calling people who dont side with you my boyfriend is out on a limb for you, why thats 8th grade caliber humor. Damn, whats next? "It takes one to know one"?

You might really want to consider retiring from, well life, because lets face it, you suck major donkey balls at it. Well you can build a computer, but your still a cocky bitch about it, which means you more than likely are not that great at it. Not to imply I think myself better, but Im better at life in general than you so I dont mind. (Not the boardgame Life, although Im probably better at that too).

Get a life jackass, nobody cares. What does your wife think about you spending all day on a forum spreading shit?

Moving on, thanks agin those of you who provided actual advice, without being a cock bite about it. PSU will definately be switched out.

 

[rochin]

I still stand behind my idea that the e4300 is almost effortless to overclock. If it did shorten the life of the CPU i do not think the OP would have the computer long enough to find out.

Agreed.

So after april 22 the e4300 will be vastly cheaper than the AMD chip he is getting so he could have saved alot by A. waiting and B getting an intel CPU.

Yes and he could have used the money he saved to purchase a decent psu :roll:


Point exactly. If had the money for a 1500 dollar build(sadly mine will be 800 or so) I would invest in a better PSU. As it stands in my current build the PSU is 4th in price after CPU, MB, RAM. I will not have a new GPU for a while so a cheaper PSU is ok for now. The price drops on the 22nd of April will also help in the cost of my system That 3.0 ghz 6850(is that the one?) CPU for 283 sounds damn fantastic.

Edit: I need to change my sig, Intel is cool now lol.

 

[jeff_2087]

Do not confuse opinions with facts buddy, its not a damn opinion that the rosewill psu the OP listed is not a good choice for his system, its a damn FACT!

Everything you say is your opinion. And if you take your own advice and 'go back to page fuking 1', you'll notice that where the PSU is concerned my opinion agrees with yours. Congratulations.

Again noob, go back to page 1 and read from there.

As was so aptly put earlier, there's no point arguing with an idiot. Clearly the basis of most of your posts is "I know more than you, youre a noob". You are an impudent fool and a disgrace to the many helpful people in this forum.

Anyway, this thread no longer interests me, so you can continue your juvenile whining and name-calling if you wish, but I won't read it. Maybe it'll make you feel good. Then, when you graduate from kindergarten, you can move on to another thread and post something useful.

PS. If you're so smart, learn how to quote correctly. It makes posts easier to read.

 

[Emtiph]

It doesn't help when one is a complete **** about giving it. Perhaps you do not understand the line between "providing advice" and "imposing our beliefs upon others". One is good, the other is very bad. We can give polite advice, but that's all. If he chooses not to agree with the advice, we have no right to continue attempting to impose it where it is not wanted. It's his question, it's his choice. Not yours.

Look, for Christ sake they were trying to bloody help him and advise him not to go with a low-end PSU for his high-end components. Sure it's his decicion, but if I knew someone was making a bad mistake I would try and explain to them that they're doing just that and try and steer them in another direction, so to speak.

Now will you stop bloody making it seem like the OP is being F'ing victimized here, cause that's totally not the case.

 

[Curmudgeon5462]

Look back Epitaph, I accepted and considered any advice given to me that wasn't attached to an insult or smartass remark, If you cant see that you just dont want to. Nobodys making you guys read this thread, and I think Ive gotten all the real advice Im gonna get out of this thread. They tried to help me my ass, about 4 people tried to actually help me, the rest were just flaming and trying to boost their egos.

 

[Criminal89]

I went back and read your original post and some replies you made. You were purposely trying to start a flame/name calling war. I mean for Pete’s sake you said and I quote, " (pentium fanboys be quiet)". I mean that statement alone warrants the insults you started getting from everyone. For one, by saying that, you tried calling out all the fanboys that visit this forum. The second thing about that statement that warrants the insults you starting getting is the fact that you automatically think saying Pentium fanboy = Intel fanboy. Wow... that shows what a giant tard you are when you can't even call a fanboy out by the correct name. Also, the poll you had about your machine shows that you were trying to get negative comments from people because you gave 2 choices and they both claim in one way or another your system is the end all be all system to have. Yes, I can see that you were trying to be Ironic with this thread, but come on, what did you expect the forum faithful to do. You actually think they are going to sit around and let you trash on people for trying to give advice. :roll:

I will agree though that this thread is officially dead. If you decided to go with another PSU based off the advice of anyone in this forum, then mission accomplished. I have no problem with you getting an AMD, but you should have waited 2 weeks for the price drop. 8O

Peace
crim

 

[NamelessMC]

Your so full of sh1t :roll: You acted like a little c0ck every time someone tried to help you.

You've been on this forum since August 2006 and you have 1800 posts. If there's any advice that should be imposed on anyone, it should be that you're entirely out of shape and you need to get a girlfriend.

That's not an opinion, that's a fact. Anyone that finds enough time to sit at a forum for 6 months racking up 1,800 posts, has a serious social problem.

Oh that's not my opinion, because I've taken a year and a half of social behavioral disorder classes and mental attachments, and since that means I know more than you, that means my opinion can be established as fact against your opinion.

Also, I just wanted to let you know that I make it a point to gamble at least $200 in Texas Holdem games at any given Las Vegas casino. Because I, and 15,000 other people do it, you should do. I mean, I can pull $150 over my original buy in any night, so you should do. And before you say, "I don't like to be stupid and gamble my money", I'm sorry, but my friend said the same thing 6 months ago, but now he buys in just as much as I do.

If you can't understand the double meaning of my post, go back to high school and try not to fail miserably this time.

PS: Most real enthusiasts sites think of Tomshardware as the joke of forums. Anandtech, overclock.net, hardforum.com and xtremesystems.org are much much more knowledge driven and community supported. The only reason I come here is to check on General Homebuilt and Graphics Cards every now and then to give people suggestions. The fact that a complete jackass like you would get banned out of at least 3 of the forums I listed, gives me all the facts I need to know about how much you "know" about power supplies.

I don't care if your grandmother said she was never going to over-clock but eventually did. I don't care if the damn Pope bought a PC from you and actually over-clocked it even though it's a sin. As far as this thread goes, the OP said he's not over-clocking, and until he comes back and says, "Okay guys I lied I want to over-clock", you can get the hell out of here with your pretentious self-righteous "I know everything about the internet even though I'm a loser in real life" attitude.

The only reason you're even still here is because Tomshardware moderators are... *cough* non existent.