Ok so I found my Thief II cdr's now what with Win2k Pro?

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On 20 Mar 2005 08:00:29 -0800, Geneve <a@n.com> wrote:

>This is a top reply to leave spoiler at the
>bottom....
>
>....
>
>I went in through the bell tower.
>
>Found my way to the bottom.
>
>Got out the two doors then into the hammer church thing/area.
>
>
>WHat got me though. How is it when I picked off one hammer
>at the far end of the room did they know to come across
>the room to start wailing on me all the while in easy mode ?
>
>Has it been that long since I was in a T2 environment?
>
>Are they this quick to pounce without looking around more
>till garret was closer?

Um, they seemed to react pretty much normally when I played. Maybe you
made some noise earlier so they were already alerted? I always like
playing on Expert mode though. Too many times finding out there was more
to a mission on the higher difficulty levels taught me that lesson.

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On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:58:46 -0600 Michael Cecil said :
>
>>Are they this quick to pounce without looking around more
>>till garret was closer?
>
>made some noise earlier so they were already alerted? I always like

I dunno. When got to the bottom of the long ladder it seemed they heard me right
away even though I was behind two doors.

I wish crouching and slow stepping woulf be stealthy but its not in this
level.

Guess I am a fan of a ton of supplies to get through versus getting frustrated
just to end up deleting a level out of spite.

>playing on Expert mode though. Too many times finding out there was more
>to a mission on the higher difficulty levels taught me that lesson.


I never see any one talking about what's hidden or exposed in the
various levels. Whats so different than limitations and being forced
to obtain extra things?

Any new doors available that open up or extras that are locked out
if you are in one mode or the other ?

Thats how I look at the questions..............


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>
> It was odd. On T😀S I have that game on a P4/3.4ghz/ATI AIW Radeon
> and the machine has 1 gig of ram in win2kpro and after I did a
> few defrags eventually I started losing sound effects.
>
> Also it seems to do premature exits to desktop. Swap file is
> set for 512-1024 for that one machine.
>
>
> I should mention the machine has on board sound though.

That does sound odd, but there are so many possibilities. Maybe it is the
onboard sound. Maybe it was file permissions that have messed up/were not
set correctly, who knows.

You seem to be a big ATI fan, well at least you have ATI AIW in both
machines you wrote about. I'm not buying NVidia any more since they
destroyed 3dfx. So there's only one choice really.

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On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 23:12:05 GMT Barnaby said :
>
>
>You seem to be a big ATI fan, well at least you have ATI AIW in both
>machines you wrote about. I'm not buying NVidia any more since they
>destroyed 3dfx. So there's only one choice really.
>
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Hello Barnaby,

Yes the switch to ATI AIW came when Thief 1 was out. Back then I had
a Monster 3DFX (8 meg) card and some other card that was from the
same company that was compatable.

I could not handle how extermely dark Thief was and I needed more gamma.

One of my friends that had a ATI AIW (16 meg 4x agp) at the time. He also
had the game and we would problem solve on the telephone.

We went in to some building and he said to go here and there but dont
step on this or that.

All I could tell him was that I saw nothing at all. It was all black
once inside the door.

Back then even down loading programs to artifically boost the gamma
lets call it was pretty nasty...

When I got back out of the game I always had to reset the colors and
brightness to normal levels.

So got tired of messing with redoing the screen just because the gamma
option in thief was not working on the card I had.

Again it was the Monster 3DFX (8 meg) with the loop cable.

Now when I am using these ATI AIW cards. The gamme options work.

WHich is a good thing because at times when the work lamps in the
room are turned on. There is soo much back light on the pc
monitor I need to be able to fiddle with the game video...

Geneve


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>
> So got tired of messing with redoing the screen just because the gamma
> option in thief was not working on the card I had.
>
> Again it was the Monster 3DFX (8 meg) with the loop cable.
>
> Now when I am using these ATI AIW cards. The gamme options work.
>
> WHich is a good thing because at times when the work lamps in the
> room are turned on. There is soo much back light on the pc
> monitor I need to be able to fiddle with the game video...
>
> Geneve
>
>
> --
> "If confused why this or that is going on."
> "I suggest you go to http://www.timdoc.com"

Yes, being able to adjust in the game definitely helps, I don't think it
would be comfortable to play without the + - key option. And the Monster was
a bit old then, I never had it but from what I heard it was more built for
speed than displaying pretty architecture.

Still waiting for T2X, not so long to go now...


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Whose defragger were you using?

I have a AMD XP 2500+/ 1 Gig Ram/ ATI Radeon 9000 pro/ Turtle Beach -
Santa Cruz sound card. My sound went out just in the game. It
was fine for the menus and the intro but almost no sound was happening
within the game. Also, in Half-Life 2 the sound was very subdued.

I ended up going trying to reinstall the sound card - unsuccessfully and
then rebuilt my system disk. For many years I had used nortons with
no ill effects; but immediately before my problem I had been trying
to use system mechanic "serious" defragmenter.

>
>
> It was odd. On T😀S I have that game on a P4/3.4ghz/ATI AIW Radeon
> and the machine has 1 gig of ram in win2kpro and after I did a
> few defrags eventually I started losing sound effects.
>
> Also it seems to do premature exits to desktop. Swap file is
> set for 512-1024 for that one machine.
>
>
> I should mention the machine has on board sound though. I can not
> afford a creative labs audigy 2 card right now. I saw the value
> version but not sure about if I want to use a pci slot to add
> to a extra shared slot. (currently just a ati aiw radeon 9600 is
> in there.
>
>
>

 

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On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 08:33:05 -0500 tacitus said :
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>Whose defragger were you using?
>
>I have a AMD XP 2500+/ 1 Gig Ram/ ATI Radeon 9000 pro/ Turtle Beach -
>Santa Cruz sound card. My sound went out just in the game. It

I used to use nortons but there were problems. Nortons would say things
were fine and windows would say there were problems after nortons got
done fixing thing. real annoying....

I think Thief 3 wants a SB Audigy for best results.

All I can afford though for now is the on board sound.

I find I have to fiddle with the cards cound effect to get good game sound
all the time though.

If I forget then once I saw a gaurd on the left and heard the sound
on the right. ugh...

No EAX with the onboard stuff here....

I dont remember offhand what the name is ........

Yeah I heard the turle beach was supposed to be a real nice card just
not good for thief tds.


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On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 10:02:01 GMT, "Barnaby" <nospam@please.no> wrote:

First you explain why FMs can be more resource-hogging than OMs with:

>The size is not really the issue but textures,
>custom made objects etc.

...which is somewhat limited, byt by and large well and good. Then you
write:

>The original game was designed for minimum spec. of "Video Accelerator with
>4MB memory" and a "Pentium 233". I think you should be alright with your
>machine.

You already know that visually superior FMs *can and will* be more
resource-hogging than the rather bland looking (by comparison) OMs,
yet you come to the conclusion that he'll "be alright" based on the
system demands for the OMs! When you're in a public forum, can't you
at least try to do a better job at reading your own messages and think
just a little about how much sense they actually make, before you post
them? Pretty please?
Hint no. 1: Take a look at the system demands Purah estimated for
Calendra's Legacy.
Hint no. 2: Picture a screenshot from any T2 OM. Any screenshot will
do. Then picture a screenshot from CoSAS. Unless you're wedged in a
corner looking down, any screenshot will do.

>I've played the above cited heavier fm's like CoSaS & 7th Crystal with a
>Voodoo 3000 16MB and absolutely no problem whatsoever, admittedly on a 1.4
>Ghz machine, but they're not THAT heavy, we're not talking about Thief 3
>here.

Yeah, I bet you had absolutely no problem whatsoever. If you're
content with a 640x480 resolution and 5FPS.

>Don't let people spoil your gaming who won't even try play anything unless
>they got a 5 Gig machine and 2 Gigs ram.

Since no one else here has spoken up about which FMs will run smoothly
and which won't, I guess it must be me you're talking about. How
enlightening! It seems I learn new and profound things about me,
myself, my personality and my character every time I bother to post
anything these days. And here I was thinking I was actually helping
that dumb bastard who I (crazy as I am) thought was actually asking
for advice on FMs and hardware. Ah well, I've been wrong before.

>Just remenber to turn off all the stuff you don't need when playing, like
>software firewall, virusscanner, any real time and quicktime players in the
>system tray and all that stuff that likes to put itself there which you
>never need, and disconnect from the internet if you're on Cable / ADSL.

Yeah, those Internet connections are massive resource hogs, 'aight.
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"Greger Hoel" <gregerh@spammersgetbent.net> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 10:02:01 GMT, "Barnaby" <nospam@please.no> wrote:

> >I've played the above cited heavier fm's like CoSaS & 7th Crystal with a
> >Voodoo 3000 16MB and absolutely no problem whatsoever, admittedly on a
1.4
> >Ghz machine, but they're not THAT heavy, we're not talking about Thief 3
> >here.
>
> Yeah, I bet you had absolutely no problem whatsoever. If you're
> content with a 640x480 resolution and 5FPS.


Greger, not at all. I'm always playing in at least 1024x786 or higher, and I
already said it was running smoothly. There is absolutely no problem with a
16MB card which is already 4 times more memory than the original game
needed. I might not sound very professional here, but from that I deduce
that 32MB ram should be alright too.
You can also overclock cards but that wasn't necessary for Thief. I had the
Voodoo oc'd for RTCW though and it just did the trick (in single player).
I just think you shouldn't always believe the specs too much, you can try
what you get with a few teaks if necessary on your machine.
If it doesn't work you can still resign yourself to not being able to play
it.

>
> >Just remenber to turn off all the stuff you don't need when playing, like
> >software firewall, virusscanner, any real time and quicktime players in
the
> >system tray and all that stuff that likes to put itself there which you
> >never need, and disconnect from the internet if you're on Cable / ADSL.
>
> Yeah, those Internet connections are massive resource hogs, 'aight.


I was stating that for security reasons, as he has disabled his firewall and
Vscan before.


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"Greger Hoel" <gregerh@spammersgetbent.net> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 10:02:01 GMT, "Barnaby" <nospam@please.no> wrote:


Btw there are also several settings in BIOS which can help performance, like
enable Fast-write etc. which I had tweaked.
All together it ran like a charm.


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