Opinion: Can You Blame the PC Crash on the iPad?

[Guest]

what has hurt the PC i sthe smart phone We need a pc to help design a room do work be productive in a meaningful way we can now use a phone to find things and get an instant answer to a small question and update facebook that reduces the PC requirements as the only device to do this an Ipad is a PC with a more playful interaction good for finding things on the net or entertain your self a new device to do things you did on the PC for some of the everyday light duty things but you want to do some work like write a assay for school or develop an app to sell that is not a place to do work of meaning but it is just an underpowered fun device that is good for interactive presentations delivering well defined presentations of an IDea you developed on a PC

 

[deck]

Another terrible article by this Wolfgang fellow. Does Toms actually paid this guy?!?

 

[runswindows95]

[citation][nom]Zanny[/nom]1. The ipad is a pc, just one with a custom OS designed for phones and no input devices besides touch, and its on an ARM chip.[/citation]

Sorry, but the Ipad is not a PC. There is no comparison between the two.

 

[spookyman]

The so called "Personal Computer" has blurred lines.

I can get on the internet with my Computer/Phone/Game Console/TV/Refrigerator and more.

I do not really need a clunky computer at home when a portable tablet does the same thing. Its easier to transport then a laptop, user friendly and simple to use.

 

[rohitbaran]

[citation][nom]christop[/nom]Can You Blame the PC Crash on the iPad? No.. The Ipad is so under powered compared to a nice laptop or a desktop. I like a huge hd in my system a good bit of ram and a killer gpu. The Ipad has none of these.[/citation]
Nailed it!

 

[legacy7955]

What I also see here is the market trying to manipulate the consumers...There is definitely an agenda to kill the PC probably because these greedy manufacturers want more throw away items like tablets and ipads, ect that are almost impossible to upgrade, so you have to spend more to buy new. The greed mongers love Apple because it based on closed OS and huge mark up on iJunk that essentially is the same as other computer products that come from slave wage China.

 

[jecastej]

[citation][nom]runswindows95[/nom]Sorry, but the Ipad is not a PC. There is no comparison between the two.[/citation]

Literally. PC = personal computer. They are.

But I have to agree completely with you they are no comparable to todays most powerful PCs. However If they are not comparable today they may be in the next years.

And I don't know how more "Personal" (the "P") can be a computer today in general than a tablet PC. A wearable one? One that's inside your body?. But yes the tablet is also a computer device.

 

[Guest]

No, I don't blame the iPad. If anything, we should be happy about the iPad and similar devices as they have expanded the gaming market and made gaming more appealing to the public. PC are essentially killing themselves. People who have grown up playing games on PCs for many years know how to overcome the hurdles and frustrations of playing games or installing software on PCs. Newly attracted middle age folks or even young kids born into this console era have learned to expect that when they download an App on a Smartphone or insert a game disc into a console it "Just Works". You cannot say the same about PCs. Consoles and console game developers are also contributing to the decline of PCs, granted there will always be a business market, the games that are being developed focus on console hardware, so why buy a PC. Until we start seeing (BF3,UE3)there's no point to sway developers to move away from consoles. The console market is also on course for a crash. The reason people play on PC is for the visual and performance experience. People play on consoles for social reason and people play on tablets and smart-phones out of convenience. These lines are getting blurred as consoles are not longer bringing anything new to table. Kinect is like a WoW expansion, nothing more. Consoles need to kick it in the butt and get the next generation here so we can remember why we buy consoles rather than iPads. Games such Infinity Blade are pushing smart-phones and tablets closer to consoles and there is no denying their portability.

PCs need games that run without installing and have universal play-ability on low settings, so that enthusiasts are not limited.

 

[humble dexter]

The most power hungry applications I use are games, and almost all of todays PC games are designed to run on old console hardware.

The PC games being designed today could just as well have being released exactly the same way 5 years ago : I'd be lining up for a new PC if PC games had moved on as they used to (meaning the games being released ahead of the optimal PC hardware required to run them), and were now being designed with 8 core CPUs, triple 1920x1080 display at 60 FPS with DirectX 11, Blue Ray, 16+ Go memory and SSDs in mind... but until those new consoles come out, even a 5 year old DVD, Hard Drive, dual core (one for the game, one for the Windows OS) and directX 9 graphics card is all you need to run those overwhelming amount of limited console ports and their 5+ year old hardware requirements.

And if there's nothing to show off with a brand new PC that a 5 year old PC can't do, might as well buy a Tablet instead or whatever.

 

[belardo]

The PC desktop does what it does as it has been for 10 years with XP~Win7. Its generally reliable, small enough to transport and low-cost. As long as it works, why bother? the C=64 8bit computer was manufactures for over 10 years, it did what people wanted for the price it sold.

So, until the computer dies or gets old and slow... people are going to keep their Core2 class or better systems until they die. My Q6600 still fast enough for most of my needs. An iPad gives me more options over that desktop and my notebooks.

With Apple selling has sold just over 30million ipads total... vs about 400+ million PC sales? That is not even a 10% hit.

The PC market, in general is just as boring today as it was 10 years ago. I talked with a guy who designed an AIO PC before the iMac LCD designs ever came out. He had all kinds of cool ideas and accessories to go with it. Nobody in the PC industry was interested. Best to go on back to building black boxes after black boxes. Dell, HP, Acer-etc, Lenovo... they are all black boxes.

So yeah, the PC industry should kicked in the balls.

 

[mchuf]

[citation][nom]cTs Corvette[/nom]The lack of growth in the PC sector is due to one simple fact-computers have gotten so powerful, and Windows has gotten so stable, that it's very rare to have any sort of problem with them, and they are fast enough to handle pretty much anything you throw at them, so the average consumer has no reason to go out and buy a new PC every couple of years. That 5 year old Dell is still chugging happily along, and still runs Word and Netflix like a champ. And in actuality, even though I'm a hardcore gamer, the only thing I've replaced in my PC in years is the GPU. Nothing else needs to be upgraded.[/citation]


I feel the same way. While I did build a new Win 7 pc last year (so I could play DX11 games), my 5 year old gaming rig is still chugging along. It has a E6400 C2D with 3 gig of DDR2 ram and a 512mb 9800GT gpu running Win XP Media Center Edition 2005. Still plays most games and can easily run streaming video to a HDTV. If it wasn't for gaming, this would still be the main rig in the house. I run the newest version of FF as the main browser. It's too bad that MS wants people to buy Win 7 otherwise IE9 would be on this machine too.

And let's be honest, any growth in this soft economy can't be classified as a crash.

 

[f-gomes]

Wolfgang, I want to try some of that stuff you smoke before you write bull like this. I do.

 

[bigpoppastuke]

Last I heard growth wasn't catastrophic

 

[southernshark]

The point is that the PC is boring. It needs to be revamped. I know its hard to let go for many of you, but it is time. The day of the big slow boot box is coming to an end. People need these things to be shrunk and to turn on instantly. Power savings would be nice too.

 

[belardo]

Want to grow the PC Market?

Develop real VR technology... something what would require a $2000 computer to plug in a $1000 VR card wired to your brain. That would generate sales... as long as they don't block porn.

 

[kittle]

Its mainly that the current generation of systems, and the previous generation... and in some cases, 2 or more generations older... are running just fine for the web email & flash games that people want to run.

At the start of the PC industry, we had effective cpu speeds doubling every year or even sooner. So when you could spend $1,000 and have things run in 10-15 seconds instead of 30-60, there was a good reason to upgrade. But once things got fast enough, theres no need for the masses to upgrade.

In the end, its the intel vs Amd CPU, multi-core race thats caused this. They only have themselves to blame.

 

[gti88]

I can't blame ipard.
A tablet can't substitute a PC.
I agree with others, who say that 3-4 year old PC's are doing just fine for an average user, it's enough to watch youtube and work with photos and documents.

 

[Da_Man]

I agree with your opinion, ipad do contribute to reduced pc sales but the lack of innovation that make the pc sales stagnant or lower, i also wanna buy ipad because the mobility but for the current price (900$+ for ipad2 no contract here in my country) i prefer to upgrade my pc, as i can get a high spec pc with 900$

 

[gm0n3y]

Apple is outgrowing the market because it is able to design and build desirable PCs for relatively affordable prices.

I'm sorry, but that is a big article fail. Try taking a looks at their prices vs the competition (even without looking at relative performance) and you can see that Apple's PCs are NOT "affordable".

 

[Socialdisorder]

I blame the PC crash on Obama!......

No seriously
The economy is hurting all around. People are cutting back and spending their hard earned money on food and clothes, not the new Ati video cards that have more power and memory than computer of the 2000's.

 

[Guest]

As it always has been: What you need depends on what you do. As an owner of an iPad, iPhone, and a couple of laptops they are all different with different strengths. The rise of the iPad, in my view, is that there are lots of users who do not need the power of a laptop and therefore do not want to carry around the extra bulk. Much of historic laptop demand was generated by this kind of email, web-browsing user who only had the choice initially of a laptop then of a net book. For my part, based on what I do, I would never give up a laptop for an iPad. When I travel, I take both. Each has it's strengths. The iPad is additive not a replacemnt.

 

[warezme]

stupid question... No.

 

[ChromeTusk]

The way you use a PC or tablet is a major factor in how much you are willing to spend on the system or upgrades. Enthusiasts and gamers look for higher performance or bragging rights, but “normal” users just want something the works when they want it to work. How much CPU/GPU power do you really need for social network sites, email, and streamed media? If it runs on 5-year old technology just fine, why would a “normal” user want to upgrade the PC?

 

[geofry]

My upgrades have been getting more spaced out every cycle. I've gotten to the point the only real reason to upgrade is when my hardware is either physically broken or so out of date the generic drivers barely cut it anymore. Speed has not been an issue in a while. The machine I'm repurposing to become the house server is still faster than 80% of what's out there!

The days of me upgrading my machine every 6-9months are long gone. Now It's once every 2-3 years for the video card and every 4-5 years for everything else. Unless they start ramping up the minimum specs for games and software PCs are going the way of the washing machine. You don't replace it till it stops working, but that hardly means they are going away!

Everyone will have at least one, but it will never be the "must have" item for Christmas/Birthdays ever again.

 

[roscolo]

If you don't need power, and only want to do the things Mr. Jobs has decided you should do, the iPad is great. Unfortunately, I need power and I like to use my computer to do demanding tasks I need it to do. The iPad is simply not an option. And to just have a portable device to check the web and email, I can pick up a netbook for $150-$200 as opposed to $500 for the iPad. Doesn't work for me. But get the price down to $100-$150 where it should be, and, sure, I will pick one up!