Osama Bin Laden is Dead

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One positive to come out of all this intelligence gathered from the raid is how well the increased security measures are working. It seems as if bin Laden was quite desperate for another attack on US soil, yet he either had a hard time getting someone to do it or they simply couldn't do it since it wasn't feasible. I know that we always hear about the security failures, but you have to give Homeland Security some credit.
 
lol those silly French cant tell the difference between Seal Team 6 and Star Trek.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-20061024-71.html

Yep thats a phaser.

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OK I'll say something serious for a change...
As a former New Yorker and also a US-Navy vet, I remember exactly where I was when some of my brethren died 9/11.
I felt a pain probably more than many others out there because of my connections.
Not to belittle others out there because I know other people as well who personally have suffered.
This is about how I feel personally.
I'm glad to see that Obama got Osama, period..
As a multi-racial (African American, Irish Italian, Native American and Scottish - seriously all of them.. :sol: ) a real hybrid;
I feel I can related to incidents on most social and economical levels.
As a New Yorker I was raised with religious influences all around me daily.
My father is Catholic, my mother is AME, I was once Baptized my self.
In my teens in the streets on NY I learned about Islam, Muslims and 5%-ers of Islam.
(mostly a newer kinda Islam, long story if you do not already know, I'll post a Google link)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Nation_of_Gods_and_Earths
http://www.blackapologetics.com/fivepercentfaq.html
The university I mainly studied at had a 'Christian base' environment (tho it didn't mean much.. 😀 )
So basically I have seen, experienced and not to be surprised by all.
I wish I was the one to get Osama and I also believe that Obama isn't doing all that well either with his term in office.
I show NO favoritism.
The US just needs to admit that Bush started this over oil back in his days, both of them.
But the attack on 9/11 was the excuse he needed to go in blazin'..
I'm not mad at him about it just disappointed in the way it went down.
I believe that attempt to bargain or barter for the oil would have been a better start.
(OIL)
Kinda like not being mad about Lebron James leaving Cleveland but HOW he left Cleveland.
(just used that as an example, I do not care about Lebron..)
 

indeed.
a 'mut' or some say a 'V8' like the vegetable drink... LOL
 
I feel W was atoning for daddys missteps, when we had em run all the way to Bagdad, and let them off the hook.
That devestated the hearts of many Iraqis, and has left doubt in America even to this day.
Leaving a conquerer in control of vast wealth and strategic worldwide influence is a bad scenario for the planet, not just the US, so my understanding of Iraq and what happened there allows for alot of bending.
As for bin Laden, I feel it was more his excuse to come after us, and he simply deserves what he got, he started a war with us, and is a casualty of this war.
As for retaliation, he cant become a marter anymore than what he couldve done if still alive, as his followers dont need more escalation of hatred towards us, as seen in the bomb vests they wear already, ready to sacrifice all in their hatred, and bin Ladens death cant increase this hatred 1 iota.
Trying to barter, talk or trade with extreme peoples such as this simply plays out to its own end, where the hatred wins out, and everyone loses, which is a victory seen in their eyes
 



Iraq Resolution

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_Resolution

The resolution cited many factors to justify the use of military force against Iraq:

Iraq's noncompliance with the conditions of the 1991 cease fire, including interference with weapons inspectors.
Iraq's alleged weapons of mass destruction, and programs to develop such weapons, posed a "threat to the national security of the United States and international peace and security in the Persian Gulf region."
Iraq's "brutal repression of its civilian population."
Iraq's "capability and willingness to use weapons of mass destruction against other nations and its own people".
Iraq's hostility towards the United States as demonstrated by the alleged 1993 assassination attempt of former President George H. W. Bush, and firing on coalition aircraft enforcing the no-fly zones following the 1991 Gulf War.
Members of al-Qaeda, an organization bearing responsibility for attacks on the United States, its citizens, and interests, including the attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, are known to be in Iraq.
Iraq's "continu[ing] to aid and harbor other international terrorist organizations," including anti-United States terrorist organizations.
The efforts by the Congress and the President to fight terrorists, including the September 11th, 2001 terrorists and those who aided or harbored them.
The authorization by the Constitution and the Congress for the President to fight anti-United States terrorism.
Citing the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998, the resolution reiterated that it should be the policy of the United States to remove the Saddam Hussein regime and promote a democratic replacement.


This is why we invaded Iraq. Not because Bush lied. This is what history will show, not Bush lied.


The resolution "supported" and "encouraged" diplomatic efforts by President George W. Bush to "strictly enforce through the U.N. Security Council all relevant Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq" and "obtain prompt and decisive action by the Security Council to ensure that Iraq abandons its strategy of delay, evasion, and noncompliance and promptly and strictly complies with all relevant Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq."

The resolution authorized President Bush to use the Armed Forces of the United States "as he determines to be necessary and appropriate" in order to "defend the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq; and enforce all relevant United Nations Security Council Resolutions regarding Iraq."
 

my pleasure on making the comment and next time you will not have to ask... :ange:
and yes, how come we are not awash in oil.?
I wonder if or when the 'administration' will fully succeed for all people.?
I realize you can't please everybody but more than 50% would be a start..
 


Well said mal! I think that if you were alive on that day and knew what was going on, most will always remember where they were and what they were doing. I was 16, so I had a sense of what was going on in the world, no matter how naive and young I was, I got the point. I also sensed the immense suffering and tragedy of that day. None these less, the closer you were to it, there is no doubt that the sense of loss was profound.

In regard to Saddam, I too am of the thinking that Bush went after him to make up for his father's mistake of not finishing the job in 1991. I didn't like how the whole deal went down, i.e. claiming that Saddam had WMD's and such as an excuse to go in- heck they could have lied to us and said they found WMD's or chemical weapons or something and most would have felt better about it. If Bush would have been straightforward and said that his old man screwed up and he was rectifying the situation, I would have at least understood the point of it back then. Did Bush make the correct "moral" decision? He did. Saddam was an evil man on par with Gaddafi, for example who was slaughtering his own people and needed to be dealt with. I didn't care about the trial or how the execution went down- Saddam got what was coming to him. Like Libya though, I at least wish that it would have been a NATO or UN operation of sorts that showed the international community felt the same way about Saddam, i.e. it would have been more justified in my mind.

On a side note, you have to admit that regardless of how you felt about going into Iraq in the first place, that the opening salvo by the military was rather impressive:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R30cbnkMG3s
 
In regard to Saddam, I too am of the thinking that Bush went after him to make up for his father's mistake of not finishing the job in 1991.
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"Young man (Buwish's mother scolding him) I told you you are watching too much MSNBC talking out of your head with that liberal media bias crapola you hold so dearly as fact. If I have to tell you again to turn that CNN rubbish off I'll take away your allowance. No more TV until you get your facts straight. I finished that paper for your political science class. I'll finish fixing your computer later."
 
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