[SOLVED] Pc Build ~1000 Euro

[Andreas_New]

Hi guys
I need some help to build my first pc
Budget:1000 euro
Pc is for programming and gaming,
AMD BUILD
monitor:Gigabyte Aorus CV27Q Curved Gaming Monitor 27" QHD 2560x1440 165Hz I already have bought it at 300 euro.

pc case: be quiet! Pure Base 500DX midi gaming case

motherboard: MSI MPG B550 Gaming Plus Motherboard ATX

Gpu: I will wait for prices to go down, probably one 3060 later

Cpu: AMD Ryzen 7 5700G 3.8GHz

Ram: Crucial Ballistix 16GB DDR4-3600MHz (BL2K8G36C16U4B)

power supply: Seasonic G12 GC 650W Full Wired 80 Plus Gold

Storage: Samsung MZ-V7S1T0BW SSD 970 EVO Plus 1 TB M.2 Internal NVMe SSD from my old laptop

Cooling: Arctic Liquid Freezer II 240


INTEL BUILD
pc case: 1x be quiet! Pure Base 500DX midi gaming case

motherboard: 1x MSI PRO Z690-A WIFI DDR4

Gpu: I will wait for prices to go down, probably one 3060 later.

Cpu: 1x Intel Core i5 12600K tray

Ram: 1x G.Skill Trident Z 16GB DDR4 16GTZSK K2

power supply: 1x be quiet! System Power 9CM

Storage: Samsung MZ-V7S1T0BW SSD 970 EVO Plus 1 TB M.2 Internal NVMe SSD from my old laptop

Cooling: 1x Arctic Liquid Freezer II 240

This are the 2 builds I thought but probably I will go with Intel because in almost same money I get better performance.

I want your opinion what build is value for money and what should I change in my builds.
Any opinion is appreciated

Thanks in advance!!

 

[Lutfij]

Welcome to the forums, newcomer!

You can ditch the idea of an aftermarket cooler on the AMD build and you actually save a lot more money. Yes you get more out of the i5 but for the sort of titles you're going to be gaming while on the i5's iGPU, you'd wish you got the APU instead. Looking at the ram kit on the Intel side, you're going down a notch with DDR4-3200Mhz rams, if I'm mistaken, it's due to the lack of info parsed above.

In fact,
Pc is for programming and gaming
You didn't mention the titles you plan to game on the system nor the app's you'd be using to do your programming work on said system.

Lastly, which System Power 9CM are you looking at?

 

[Why_Me]

No idea what country you are located so I'll use Computer Universe in Germany for an example.

https://www.computeruniverse.net/en/p/90853369
ASUS TUF GAMING B660M-PLUS D4 €141,18 excl. VAT

https://www.computeruniverse.net/en/p/90853514
Intel Core i7-12700 €320,57 excl. VAT

https://www.computeruniverse.net/en/p/90793878
be quiet! Shadow Rock 3 CPU Cooler €40,25 excl. VAT

https://www.bequiet.com/en/contact/lga1700mounting
be quiet! LGA-1700 Mounting Kit €0,00

https://www.computeruniverse.net/en/p/90792654
Crucial Ballistix DDR4 3200MHz 16GB (2x8GB) CL16 €57,94 excl. VAT

https://www.asus.com/Motherboards-Components/Motherboards/TUF-Gaming/TUF-GAMING-B660M-PLUS-D4/

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/u...12700-processor-25m-cache-up-to-4-90-ghz.html

Review of that cpu with benchmarks.

https://www.techspot.com/review/2391-intel-core-i7-12700/

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydgN4W97Esk&t=708s

 

[helper800]

1x16gb stick of ram is bad its significantly faster to go with 2x8 gb sticks. This is what I would do assuming you have a monitor now to use;

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor (€189.98 @ ARLT)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B660M DS3H AX DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (€140.55 @ Computeruniverse)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (€67.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Crucial P2 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (€78.86 @ Mindfactory)
Video Card: Palit GeForce RTX 3050 8GB 8 GB Dual Video Card (€457.99 @ Mindfactory)
Case: BitFenix Nova Mesh SE ATX Mid Tower Case (€39.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: EVGA G5 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€81.15 @ Computeruniverse)
Total: €1056.33
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-02-03 18:22 CET+0100

 

[Why_Me]

1x16gb stick of ram is bad its significantly faster to go with 2x8 gb sticks. This is what I would do assuming you have a monitor now to use;

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor (€189.98 @ ARLT)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B660M DS3H AX DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (€140.55 @ Computeruniverse)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (€67.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Crucial P2 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (€78.86 @ Mindfactory)
Video Card: Palit GeForce RTX 3050 8GB 8 GB Dual Video Card (€457.99 @ Mindfactory)
Case: BitFenix Nova Mesh SE ATX Mid Tower Case (€39.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: EVGA G5 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€81.15 @ Computeruniverse)
Total: €1056.33
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-02-03 18:22 CET+0100

I'd switch out the board in that build with this one for the better VRM's.

https://www.computeruniverse.net/en/p/90853348
MSI PRO B660M-A DDR4 €130,17 excl. VAT

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-B660M-A-DDR4

 

[helper800]

I'd switch out the board in that build with this one for the better VRM's.

https://www.computeruniverse.net/en/p/90853348
MSI PRO B660M-A DDR4 €130,17 excl. VAT

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-B660M-A-DDR4

The one listed on pc part picker was 176 Euro and i was already out of budget a bit. But yeah completely agreed.

 

[Andreas_New]

Welcome to the forums, newcomer!

You can ditch the idea of an aftermarket cooler on the AMD build and you actually save a lot more money. Yes you get more out of the i5 but for the sort of titles you're going to be gaming while on the i5's iGPU, you'd wish you got the APU instead. Looking at the ram kit on the Intel side, you're going down a notch with DDR4-3200Mhz rams, if I'm mistaken, it's due to the lack of info parsed above.

In fact,
Pc is for programming and gaming
You didn't mention the titles you plan to game on the system nor the app's you'd be using to do your programming work on said system.

Lastly, which System Power 9CM are you looking at?

Thanks for the welcome,
Yes Lutfij that was my first thought I will buy the ryzen 7 5700g with the aftermarket cooler but if you have a good cooler you have better performance from integrated graphics
Yes I am goind down to DDR4-3200Mhz on intel because I saw in their site this Up to DDR4 3200 MT/s, Up to DDR5 4800 MT/s and I thought is irrelevant to buy more than 3200 maybe I am mistaken

Ok you are right the pc is for programming

1. Visual Studio
2. Android Studio
3. 1-2 VMs
4. Install Oracle
5. And probably more in the future

Now Games that I play currently because I dont have a good laptop is Leauge of Legends that it dont need high performance graphic card to play
after I will install the graphic card Pubg,Call of Duty, God Of war etc

be quiet! System Power 9CM 700 watts

 

[Andreas_New]

No idea what country you are located so I'll use Computer Universe in Germany for an example.

https://www.computeruniverse.net/en/p/90853369
ASUS TUF GAMING B660M-PLUS D4 €141,18 excl. VAT

https://www.computeruniverse.net/en/p/90853514
Intel Core i7-12700 €320,57 excl. VAT

https://www.computeruniverse.net/en/p/90793878
be quiet! Shadow Rock 3 CPU Cooler €40,25 excl. VAT

https://www.bequiet.com/en/contact/lga1700mounting
be quiet! LGA-1700 Mounting Kit €0,00

https://www.computeruniverse.net/en/p/90792654
Crucial Ballistix DDR4 3200MHz 16GB (2x8GB) CL16 €57,94 excl. VAT

https://www.asus.com/Motherboards-Components/Motherboards/TUF-Gaming/TUF-GAMING-B660M-PLUS-D4/

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/u...12700-processor-25m-cache-up-to-4-90-ghz.html

Review of that cpu with benchmarks.

https://www.techspot.com/review/2391-intel-core-i7-12700/

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydgN4W97Esk&t=708s

I am from Cyprus and yes I will buy all the parts from Computer Universe Germany,

OK I like this build but is not better to buy z690 motherboard for future upgrades on DDR5 or I wiil be ok?

Also I dont know if i7-12700 is overkill for me and be ok with 12600k with ~100 euro different

I dont know about this cooler will be compatible and I have to order from be quiet a mounting Kit?

And I wanted to bought a motherboard with wifi and Bluetooth or is better to just install after ?

Thanks for your time to help

 

[Andreas_New]

1x16gb stick of ram is bad its significantly faster to go with 2x8 gb sticks. This is what I would do assuming you have a monitor now to use;

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor (€189.98 @ ARLT)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B660M DS3H AX DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (€140.55 @ Computeruniverse)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (€67.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Crucial P2 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (€78.86 @ Mindfactory)
Video Card: Palit GeForce RTX 3050 8GB 8 GB Dual Video Card (€457.99 @ Mindfactory)
Case: BitFenix Nova Mesh SE ATX Mid Tower Case (€39.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: EVGA G5 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€81.15 @ Computeruniverse)
Total: €1056.33
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-02-03 18:22 CET+0100

First of all thanks for your time to help,
I dont want to waste my money on a 3050 is not a good option I think, If the price of Gpu's drop is better to go for a 3060 at ~650 euro

And with that money now I can get a 12600k better performance and better case for air flow and berformance after all.

Also you didnt add a cpu cooler is that by mistake or intentional.

About motherboard as I said to my friend above is not better to go for a z690 motherboard for future upgrades on DDR5.

And finally I can't order parts out of Europe and better to order from 1 site so the shipping will not cost much.

Thanks again

 

[Why_Me]

I am from Cyprus and yes I will buy all the parts from Computer Universe Germany,

OK I like this build but is not better to buy z690 motherboard for future upgrades on DDR5 or I wiil be ok?

Also I dont know if i7-12700 is overkill for me and be ok with 12600k with ~100 euro different

I dont know about this cooler will be compatible and I have to order from be quiet a mounting Kit?

And I wanted to bought a motherboard with wifi and Bluetooth or is better to just install after ?

Thanks for your time to help

The 12600K is an excellent cpu. It's going to be a few years from now before DDR5 goes mainstream. The prices and availability are horrible as is the latency.

I'm going to throw this out here just so you have more options. The 12500 has the better integrated graphics (UHD 770) vs the 12400 (UHD 730).

https://www.computeruniverse.net/en/p/90853512
Intel Core i5-12500 €188,99

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/u...12500-processor-18m-cache-up-to-4-60-ghz.html

https://www.computeruniverse.net/en/p/90853378
MSI PRO B660M-A WIFI DDR4 €138,34

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-B660M-A-WIFI-DDR4

https://www.computeruniverse.net/en/p/90853363
ASUS TUF GAMING B660M-PLUS WIFI D4 €154,29

TUF GAMING B660M-PLUS WIFI D4｜Motherboards｜ASUS Global

TUF Gaming series distills essential elements of the latest AMD and Intel® platforms, and combines them with game-ready features and proven durability. Engineered with military-grade components, an upgraded power solution and a comprehensive set of cooling options, this motherboard delivers...

www.asus.com

 

[Andreas_New]

The 12600K is an excellent cpu. It's going to be a few years from now before DDR5 goes mainstream. The prices and availability are horrible as is the latency.

I'm going to throw this out here just so you have more options. The 12500 has the better integrated graphics (UHD 770) vs the 12400 (UHD 730).

https://www.computeruniverse.net/en/p/90853512
Intel Core i5-12500 €188,99

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/u...12500-processor-18m-cache-up-to-4-60-ghz.html

https://www.computeruniverse.net/en/p/90853378
MSI PRO B660M-A WIFI DDR4 €138,34

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-B660M-A-WIFI-DDR4

https://www.computeruniverse.net/en/p/90853363
ASUS TUF GAMING B660M-PLUS WIFI D4 €154,29

TUF GAMING B660M-PLUS WIFI D4｜Motherboards｜ASUS Global

TUF Gaming series distills essential elements of the latest AMD and Intel® platforms, and combines them with game-ready features and proven durability. Engineered with military-grade components, an upgraded power solution and a comprehensive set of cooling options, this motherboard delivers...

www.asus.com

I don't know I think 12600k is the best now for money and value that provide so probably the cpu will be 12600k

Now about motherboard at computer universe
ASUS TUF GAMING B660M-PLUS WIFI D4 is 183 https://www.computeruniverse.net/en/p/90853363 and

MSI PRO Z690-A WIFI DDR4 is 219 https://www.computeruniverse.net/en/p/90848751 or

ASUS PRIME Z690-P WiFi D4 is 241,98 https://www.computeruniverse.net/en/p/90849130

is it worth the ~60 euro different to not go Z690

 

[Why_Me]

I don't know I think 12600k is the best now for money and value that provide so probably the cpu will be 12600k

Now about motherboard at computer universe
ASUS TUF GAMING B660M-PLUS WIFI D4 is 183 https://www.computeruniverse.net/en/p/90853363 and

MSI PRO Z690-A WIFI DDR4 is 219 https://www.computeruniverse.net/en/p/90848751 or

ASUS PRIME Z690-P WiFi D4 is 241,98 https://www.computeruniverse.net/en/p/90849130

is it worth the ~60 euro different to not go Z690

You want a Z690 DDR4 board for that cpu.

https://www.computeruniverse.net/en/p/90848751
MSI PRO Z690-A WIFI DDR4 €184,03

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-Z690-A-WIFI-DDR4

 

[Why_Me]

You want a Z690 DDR4 board for that cpu.

https://www.computeruniverse.net/en/p/90848751
MSI PRO Z690-A WIFI DDR4 €184,03

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-Z690-A-WIFI-DDR4

https://www.computeruniverse.net/en/p/90724396
be Quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 €62,94

 

[Bob.B]

I don't know I think 12600k is the best now for money and value that provide so probably the cpu will be 12600k

Now about motherboard at computer universe
ASUS TUF GAMING B660M-PLUS WIFI D4 is 183 https://www.computeruniverse.net/en/p/90853363 and

MSI PRO Z690-A WIFI DDR4 is 219 https://www.computeruniverse.net/en/p/90848751 or

ASUS PRIME Z690-P WiFi D4 is 241,98 https://www.computeruniverse.net/en/p/90849130

is it worth the ~60 euro different to not go Z690

There is more than a few combo's you can put together.

Folks have their opinion about the best combo.
The first item is budget.

Here's my opinion.
If you want to game with the igp go with the 5700g.

I would look at the 12500/600 with the stock cooler.
I don't want the K model/125 watt space heater and then need an aftermarket cooler.

2x ram for dual channel.

A B660 mobo the size and features I want.