Question PC Build Feedback Please

[spartacusroo]

Hi all,

I'm building my own PC for first time and have the below concept/ideas. Never built one and been a long time since I've got into the stats so thought I'd share with some smarter people than me to get any tips/feedback on my suggested epic build.

Budget $5,000 AUD. Hoping to take advantage of Black Friday Sales.

Future Proof and use for: General use, VMware for 2-3 VMs, building AI projects, gaming.
Additional ports needed: Have Samsung Oddesey G9 so need about 5 mini display ports, 4 USB 3.0, HDMI, Display port and 3 USB-C (so can power things like razer soundbar). Need Wifi and bluetooth.

**What additional things do I need to buy to get these installed?

If you recommend something different due to my requirements please let me know, it would be greatly appreciated. I’m going to build it myself and won’t need monitor, mouse, keyboard or speakers as I already have them.

OS: Windows 11 Pro
CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5900X
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550M DS3H Gaming (*better brand or model?)
RAM:128GB DDR4 RAM (*Best brand - king hyper fury?)
HDD: (best brand?) 1TB NVMe M.2 SSD + 2 TB NVMe M.2 SSD
GPU: Nvidia RTX 3090Ti 24GB
Tower: Optional but maybe MSI MAG Forge? (*I like business sleek and black.)
Cooling: Master 240mm Liquid Cooling
Power Supply: Corsair 850w 80+ Gold Fully Modular (*is it enough?)
PC rack holder to sit below desk: Unknown.

Thank you.

 

[Why_Me]

RTX 4080, 4080 Super or 4090 gpu.

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The 120mm fan goes inside the back of that case for a rear exhaust fan.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i7-13700 2.1 GHz 16-Core Processor ($619.00 @ Centre Com)
CPU Cooler: *Deepcool AK620 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler ($79.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Motherboard: *MSI B760 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($306.00 @ Skycomp Technology)
Memory: *Corsair Vengeance RGB 96 GB (2 x 48 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($610.19 @ Amazon Australia)
Storage: *Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($194.62 @ Amazon Australia)
Storage: *Samsung 870 Evo 2 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($205.15 @ Amazon Australia)
Case: *Fractal Design Focus 2 ATX Mid Tower Case ($129.00 @ Centre Com)
Power Supply: *Corsair RM1000e (2023) 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($235.00 @ JW Computers)
Case Fan: *ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan ($7.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Total: $2384.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-11-20 11:26 AEDT+1100

A better look at those components.

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B760-GAMING-PLUS-WIFI

Intel® Core™ i7-13700 Processor (30M Cache, up to 5.20 GHz) - Product Specifications | Intel

Intel® Core™ i7-13700 Processor (30M Cache, up to 5.20 GHz) quick reference with specifications, features, and technologies.

www.intel.com

AK620 - DeepCool

Achieve dominant cooling and silent efficiency with the DeepCool AK620 High Performance CPU Cooler equipped with six copper heat pipes stacked with a dense dual-tower fin array and two 120 FDB fans. - DeepCool was founded with the mission of providing professional, innovative, high-performance...

www.deepcool.com

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/p/mem...mt-s-cl30-memory-kit-black-cmk96gx5m2b6000c30

https://semiconductor.samsung.com/us/consumer-storage/internal-ssd/970evoplus/

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/p/psu...ular-low-noise-atx-power-supply-cp-9020264-na

https://www.fractal-design.com/products/cases/focus/focus-2/black-solid/

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIG4vFQbDn4

 

[Zerk2012]

Future Proof and use for: General use, VMware for 2-3 VMs, building AI projects, gaming.
Additional ports needed: Have Samsung Oddesey G9 so need about 5 mini display port

Future Proof is a myth no such thing.
5mini DP ports for what?
That motherboard is a POS for that processor it a very low end board.

 

[spartacusroo]

Thanks mate,

You saved me hours of researching it all in detail.

Would this case also work with that set?

Fractal Design North Charcoal Black TG Dark ATX Case, NO PSU | Cases | Scorptec Computers

Fractal Design North Charcoal Black TG Dark ATX Case, Tempered Glass Window, No PSU, 1x USB 3.1 Gen2 (Type-C), 2x USB 3.0, HD Audio, 2x Aspect 140mm PWM Included, Sophisticated Design Accented With Real Walnut Front Panel at Scorptec.com.au, the online Gaming PC, server computer and technology...

www.scorptec.com.au

Many thanks.

RTX 4080, 4080 Super or 4090 gpu.

Big RTX 40 SUPER leak reveals specifications, price, and performance of RTX 4080 SUPER, RTX 4070 Ti SUPER, and RTX 4070 SUPER

The NVIDIA GeForce RTX 40 SUPER cards are expected to be announced at CES 2024 with a Q1 launch. The boards which could include the RTX 4080 SUPER, RTX 4070 Ti SUPER, and RTX 4070 SUPER reportedly pack improved performance and better pricing than vanilla Ada offerings. Moore’s Law Is Dead has...

www.notebookcheck.net

NVIDIA Halts Production of RTX 4070 Ti and RTX 4080 to Make Room for SUPER

NVIDIA has reportedly halted production of GeForce RTX 4070 Ti and RTX 4080 graphics cards, allowing the market to digest existing inventories of the two products, so it could create room in the channel for its upcoming GeForce RTX 40-series SUPER graphics cards. The company is expected to...

www.techpowerup.com

The 120mm fan goes inside the back of that case for a rear exhaust fan.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i7-13700 2.1 GHz 16-Core Processor ($619.00 @ Centre Com)
CPU Cooler: *Deepcool AK620 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler ($79.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Motherboard: *MSI B760 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($306.00 @ Skycomp Technology)
Memory: *Corsair Vengeance RGB 96 GB (2 x 48 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($610.19 @ Amazon Australia)
Storage: *Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($194.62 @ Amazon Australia)
Storage: *Samsung 870 Evo 2 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($205.15 @ Amazon Australia)
Case: *Fractal Design Focus 2 ATX Mid Tower Case ($129.00 @ Centre Com)
Power Supply: *Corsair RM1000e (2023) 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($235.00 @ JW Computers)
Case Fan: *ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan ($7.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Total: $2384.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-11-20 11:26 AEDT+1100

A better look at those components.

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B760-GAMING-PLUS-WIFI

Intel® Core™ i7-13700 Processor (30M Cache, up to 5.20 GHz) - Product Specifications | Intel

Intel® Core™ i7-13700 Processor (30M Cache, up to 5.20 GHz) quick reference with specifications, features, and technologies.

www.intel.com

AK620 - DeepCool

Achieve dominant cooling and silent efficiency with the DeepCool AK620 High Performance CPU Cooler equipped with six copper heat pipes stacked with a dense dual-tower fin array and two 120 FDB fans. - DeepCool was founded with the mission of providing professional, innovative, high-performance...

www.deepcool.com

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/p/mem...mt-s-cl30-memory-kit-black-cmk96gx5m2b6000c30

https://semiconductor.samsung.com/us/consumer-storage/internal-ssd/970evoplus/

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/p/psu...ular-low-noise-atx-power-supply-cp-9020264-na

https://www.fractal-design.com/products/cases/focus/focus-2/black-solid/

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIG4vFQbDn4

 

[spartacusroo]

RTX 4080, 4080 Super or 4090 gpu.

Big RTX 40 SUPER leak reveals specifications, price, and performance of RTX 4080 SUPER, RTX 4070 Ti SUPER, and RTX 4070 SUPER

The NVIDIA GeForce RTX 40 SUPER cards are expected to be announced at CES 2024 with a Q1 launch. The boards which could include the RTX 4080 SUPER, RTX 4070 Ti SUPER, and RTX 4070 SUPER reportedly pack improved performance and better pricing than vanilla Ada offerings. Moore’s Law Is Dead has...

www.notebookcheck.net

NVIDIA Halts Production of RTX 4070 Ti and RTX 4080 to Make Room for SUPER

NVIDIA has reportedly halted production of GeForce RTX 4070 Ti and RTX 4080 graphics cards, allowing the market to digest existing inventories of the two products, so it could create room in the channel for its upcoming GeForce RTX 40-series SUPER graphics cards. The company is expected to...

www.techpowerup.com

The 120mm fan goes inside the back of that case for a rear exhaust fan.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i7-13700 2.1 GHz 16-Core Processor ($619.00 @ Centre Com)
CPU Cooler: *Deepcool AK620 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler ($79.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Motherboard: *MSI B760 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($306.00 @ Skycomp Technology)
Memory: *Corsair Vengeance RGB 96 GB (2 x 48 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($610.19 @ Amazon Australia)
Storage: *Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($194.62 @ Amazon Australia)
Storage: *Samsung 870 Evo 2 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($205.15 @ Amazon Australia)
Case: *Fractal Design Focus 2 ATX Mid Tower Case ($129.00 @ Centre Com)
Power Supply: *Corsair RM1000e (2023) 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($235.00 @ JW Computers)
Case Fan: *ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan ($7.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Total: $2384.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-11-20 11:26 AEDT+1100

A better look at those components.

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B760-GAMING-PLUS-WIFI

Intel® Core™ i7-13700 Processor (30M Cache, up to 5.20 GHz) - Product Specifications | Intel

Intel® Core™ i7-13700 Processor (30M Cache, up to 5.20 GHz) quick reference with specifications, features, and technologies.

www.intel.com

AK620 - DeepCool

Achieve dominant cooling and silent efficiency with the DeepCool AK620 High Performance CPU Cooler equipped with six copper heat pipes stacked with a dense dual-tower fin array and two 120 FDB fans. - DeepCool was founded with the mission of providing professional, innovative, high-performance...

www.deepcool.com

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/p/mem...mt-s-cl30-memory-kit-black-cmk96gx5m2b6000c30

https://semiconductor.samsung.com/us/consumer-storage/internal-ssd/970evoplus/

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/p/psu...ular-low-noise-atx-power-supply-cp-9020264-na

https://www.fractal-design.com/products/cases/focus/focus-2/black-solid/

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIG4vFQbDn4

Would this one work?

MSI GeForce RTX 4080 Suprim X 16GB GDDR6X

Ascend to a superior experience with SUPRIM. See, hear, and feel a profoundly elevated graphics card built with high-quality materials and assembled with enthusiast features.<br/>

www.ple.com.au

 

[kira-faye]

No idea why you're building last gen AMD from scratch with that budget. I'm assuming you just followed an old guide?

7950X3D / AM5 is the way to go if you're concerned at all about future upgrades as the current Intel socket is dead end with no options past this latest generation of chips, which were themselves a minor refresh. The 7950X3D will give you plenty of cores for VM stuff and the benefit of AMD's extra fast cache for gaming. If gaming is your primary focus and you want to save on the CPU the 7800X3D is also a great option.

Most people will be fine with a B650 board as long as it has enough USB and M.2 slots for whatever storage you need, but with your budget you could easily fit one of the higher end X670 or even X670E boards. I typically recommend Gigabyte; anything in their current Aorus line that looks like it fits your needs should be fine.

Why do you think you need so many DisplayPort connections?

Very few boards are going to have that many native USB-C ports, but you can use an A to C converter or cable in most cases. This won't work for devices that use USB-C power delivery, of course.

Are you planning to game at all, or is this purely a productivity machine?

Yes, the Fractal North will work great, just make sure whatever GPU you end up with fits length-wise. Most should without issue, including the one you linked above.

Don't know why you are being recommended a Samsung 970, I'd either get the 990 Pro or the Western Digital SN850X. Spring for the 4TB while it's on sale, two if you think you'll need more space. Most quality full size ATX boards will have at least two M.2 slots, leaving you with plenty of options for future expansion. Also, given most people only really use a graphics card now, you can always add more drives via cheap but effective PCIe to M.2 adapters if needed.

 

[Why_Me]

Thanks mate,

You saved me hours of researching it all in detail.

Would this case also work with that set?

Fractal Design North Charcoal Black TG Dark ATX Case, NO PSU | Cases | Scorptec Computers

Fractal Design North Charcoal Black TG Dark ATX Case, Tempered Glass Window, No PSU, 1x USB 3.1 Gen2 (Type-C), 2x USB 3.0, HD Audio, 2x Aspect 140mm PWM Included, Sophisticated Design Accented With Real Walnut Front Panel at Scorptec.com.au, the online Gaming PC, server computer and technology...

www.scorptec.com.au

Many thanks.

Great case .., make sure to get a rear exhaust fan for that case. Look at the Arctic brand fans to save a few dollars.

 

[Why_Me]

Would this one work?

MSI GeForce RTX 4080 Suprim X 16GB GDDR6X

Ascend to a superior experience with SUPRIM. See, hear, and feel a profoundly elevated graphics card built with high-quality materials and assembled with enthusiast features.<br/>

www.ple.com.au

That's a solid card for sure ^^

 

[Lucky_SLS]

the resolution of the G9 is double 2k. 16gb might not be sufficient if you play modded games.

the 4090 would be better. especially for your AI projects, if they are cuda accelerated.

a 7900X and 4090 build with 128gb ram for a little over 5k AUD:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7900X 4.7 GHz 12-Core Processor ($649.00 @ Computer Alliance)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK620 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler ($79.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650 AORUS ELITE AX ATX AM5 Motherboard ($379.00 @ JW Computers)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory ($329.00 @ Scorptec)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory ($329.00 @ Scorptec)
Storage: ADATA Legend 800 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($75.00 @ MSY Technology)
Storage: Sabrent Rocket Q4 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($159.99 @ Amazon Australia)
Video Card: PNY XLR8 Gaming VERTO EPIC-X RGB OC GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card ($2999.00 @ JW Computers)
Case: Silverstone FARA 512Z ATX Mid Tower Case ($97.00 @ MSY Technology)
Power Supply: Super Flower LEADEX VII XG 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($229.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Total: $5324.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-11-22 00:51 AEDT+1100

 

[spartacusroo]

No idea why you're building last gen AMD from scratch with that budget. I'm assuming you just followed an old guide?

7950X3D / AM5 is the way to go if you're concerned at all about future upgrades as the current Intel socket is dead end with no options past this latest generation of chips, which were themselves a minor refresh. The 7950X3D will give you plenty of cores for VM stuff and the benefit of AMD's extra fast cache for gaming. If gaming is your primary focus and you want to save on the CPU the 7800X3D is also a great option.

Most people will be fine with a B650 board as long as it has enough USB and M.2 slots for whatever storage you need, but with your budget you could easily fit one of the higher end X670 or even X670E boards. I typically recommend Gigabyte; anything in their current Aorus line that looks like it fits your needs should be fine.

Why do you think you need so many DisplayPort connections?

Very few boards are going to have that many native USB-C ports, but you can use an A to C converter or cable in most cases. This won't work for devices that use USB-C power delivery, of course.

Are you planning to game at all, or is this purely a productivity machine?

Yes, the Fractal North will work great, just make sure whatever GPU you end up with fits length-wise. Most should without issue, including the one you linked above.

Don't know why you are being recommended a Samsung 970, I'd either get the 990 Pro or the Western Digital SN850X. Spring for the 4TB while it's on sale, two if you think you'll need more space. Most quality full size ATX boards will have at least two M.2 slots, leaving you with plenty of options for future expansion. Also, given most people only really use a graphics card now, you can always add more drives via cheap but effective PCIe to M.2 adapters if needed.

Thank you for your advice

I won't be doing a lot of gaming on it but when I do I want to be able to play whatever I want. I'll be using it for productivity, AI dev and testing, video editing, gaming.

I should note WIFI is good to have but really only going to be used as a backup since I"ll have local ethernet cable plugged in and likely disable wifi for security.

So going off your advice if I have the below build does this all work? Do I need to up the PSU due to the increases? (*changes in bold and underline)

CPU: * AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D Desktop Processor
CPU Cooler: *Deepcool AK620 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler
Motherboard: *MSI MAG X670E TOMAHAWK WIFI Motherboard)
GPU:* ASUS GeForce RTX 4080 16GB GDDR6X Noctua OC Edition
Memory: *Corsair Vengeance RGB 96 GB (2 x 48 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($610.19 @ Amazon Australia)
Storage: *Samsung 990 PRO 2TB M.2 2280 NVMe PCIe 4.0 SSD v(**used as my primary)
Storage: *Samsung 970 EVO Plus 2TB M.2 NVMe SSD (**I use a lot of cloud so storage isn't a major one for me, not sure if 870 is fine or 970 is overkill for secondary access)
Case: *Fractal Design North Charcoal Black TG Dark ATX Case, NO PSU (*does the no PSU mean it doesn't have a PSU slot or?..)
Power Supply: *Corsair RM1000e (2023) 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($235.00 @ JW Computers)
Case Fan: *ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan ($7.00 @ PCCaseGear)

Thanks again. Really its just my work horse. I game a lot on PS5 so not a major point but do want the ability or probably more GPU for AI but one I found looks good going off above advice.

 

[kira-faye]

Again recommending you go with a single 4TB vs 2 2TB, but that's up to you. What you selected is fine if you really want two physical drives for some reason.
Everything else looks good as well.

You may want to go with a 360mm AIO instead of the Deepcool - Thermalright is a good, relatively inexpensive option - but you need to be careful of clearances between the AIO and GPU if you go that route.

 

[spartacusroo]

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Again recommending you go with a single 4TB vs 2 2TB, but that's up to you. What you selected is fine if you really want two physical drives for some reason.
Everything else looks good as well.

You may want to go with a 360mm AIO instead of the Deepcool - Thermalright is a good, relatively inexpensive option - but you need to be careful of clearances between the AIO and GPU if you go that route.

Thanks

Just clarifying you mean something like this '

Thermalright Frozen Edge 360 Black AIO CPU Cooler'​

Or pretty much any of them on scorptec that say 360MM AIO?

As if clearance do you mean be careful as in unsure it would fit with selected GPU or just when I'm mounting/sizing it up during build?

Thanks

 

[kira-faye]

Yes, that's what I mean.

The AIO has to be mounted in the front of the North so if the GPU is too long or the AIO is too thick they will not fit.