Question PC experiencing major slowdowns

Sep 5, 2022
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My pc has suddenly slowed down, and I have experienced frame rate drops in games, slow opening times and browser lag, and applications generally working much slower than they used to. I have tried to reinstall Windows 10 twice now but to no help. Also, my pc has been working significantly louder in idle mode and upon starting then it has in the past. I have more than enough storage available and have checked numerous times for viruses. I'm thinking it may be a fan issue due to it working louder, but I am not sure.

My specs are: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X, AMD Radeon 5700XT, B450 Tomahawk MAX, 1tb m.2 SSD Corsair Vengeance 32gb ram.
 
Have you taken a look at what the CPU, motherboard and graphics card temperatures are doing?

What model of CPU cooler are you running?

What case are you using?

What is your exact power supply model number and how long has it been in service?

How many case fans are installed, WHERE are they installed and in EXACTLY what orientation, intake or exhaust are each and every case fan configured as?

After doing the clean install of Windows 10, did you THEN go to the motherboard product page and download the latest chipset (.inf), audio, network adapter and any other relevant drivers and install them or did you rely on the native Windows drivers hoping that would be sufficient?

Do you have the MOST recent stable motherboard BIOS version installed?
 
Welcome to the forums, newcomer!

I have tried to reinstall Windows 10 twice now but to no help.
Did you recreate your installer to rule out a corrupt installer?

Make and model of your PSU and it's age? BIOS version for your motherboard?
 
Have you taken a look at what the CPU, motherboard and graphics card temperatures are doing?

What model of CPU cooler are you running?

What case are you using?

What is your exact power supply model number and how long has it been in service?

How many case fans are installed, WHERE are they installed and in EXACTLY what orientation, intake or exhaust are each and every case fan configured as?

After doing the clean install of Windows 10, did you THEN go to the motherboard product page and download the latest chipset (.inf), audio, network adapter and any other relevant drivers and install them or did you rely on the native Windows drivers hoping that would be sufficient?

Do you have the MOST recent stable motherboard BIOS version installed?

My CPU idle temperature is at around 50c. According to AMD Ryzen master the voltage is quite high (1.4 on idle) and frequency rates are high on idle, this is likely why my fans are running louder. GPU temperatures are 50-60c.

As for my CPU cooler, I am using the one that came with the CPU itself (Wraith Prism LED).

My case: Corsair Carbide Series SPEC-DELTA RGB

My power supply is about 2 years old (Seasonic SSR-650GB3, 650W 80+ Bronze)

I have 4 case fans not including the CPU cooler. These case fans are the ones that came with my case and I have not moved their original position (I believe they are intake fans.)

I have installed the latest chipset drivers for my motherboard and the BIOS is up-to-date.
 
And I will add the suggestion to use Task Manager and Resource Monitor to observe system performance.

Use both tools but only one tool at a time.

Determine what resources are being used, to what extent (%), and what is using any given resource.

Observe immediately after booting and then, keeping the window open, continue observing while doing light work, on-line browsing, then gaming.

Look for what changes when slow downs/ frame rate drops occur.

Another tool that may help is Process Explorer (Microsoft, free).

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/process-explorer
 
And I will add the suggestion to use Task Manager and Resource Monitor to observe system performance.

Use both tools but only one tool at a time.

Determine what resources are being used, to what extent (%), and what is using any given resource.

Observe immediately after booting and then, keeping the window open, continue observing while doing light work, on-line browsing, then gaming.

Look for what changes when slow downs/ frame rate drops occur.

Another tool that may help is Process Explorer (Microsoft, free).

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/process-explorer

While doing normal browsing work, Resource Monitor shows my CPU sparking up to 40% usage. When I start playing a non demanding game, it reaches 60% and I experience a large frame rate drop and a loud PC. Process Explorer also notes that when I open any game, my CPU experiences these spikes which I have not had before. Downloading any game via clients also severely impacts these usages, making my PC unusable during downloads.
 
What games and sources?

Check Task Manager and Task Schedule. Do you see anything unexpected being launched via the Startup tab or some trigger?

Steam and Origin are the culprits I'm aware of that take up a large chunk of my usage on Task manager. Other than that, nothing unusual is running in Startup.
 
So, there are so many actual issues here I'm not even sure where to start. No offense to anybody, this is just my take on things, especially you Ralson. We seemingly have some differences of opinion on some things and that's ok, but here's mine.

One, it's a pretty poor quality power supply. Jon Gerow (Jonny Guru) said it was absolutely one of the worst power supplies he'd seen come out the year that Seasonic started using RSY, or something to that effect. I believe there WAS towards the end of the Jonnyguru website a review of it, which was horrible, or at least an in depth discussion regarding the teardown, and the consensus also was that it was extremely poor quality. Maybe the worst thing Seasonic has ever sold with it's name on the label. Worse even than some of their "OEM" style power supplies. Definitely not a "Seasonic" quality level unit like you'd see on their in house designs. Definitely not a unit I'd ever recommend anybody using with any discrete graphics card.

Second, unlike Ralston, I would not recommend using System resource monitor for anything requiring accuracy. System resource monitor has long been flawed and from what I've seen it's gotten no better recently. Task monitor, somewhat better, but overall not the best choice for what you want to target and be looking at. In a pinch it could work, but truthfully your Ryzen master is probably already the much better choice for monitoring anything related to the CPU, but for an overall easily digested hardware monitoring utility I'd highly recommend using HWinfo. Just download and install it, then run it and choose "Sensors only" and uncheck the box next to "Summary", which is basically useless. And don't confuse it with HWmonitor or Open hardware monitor, which have historically not been as accurate as HWinfo and have in fact had some serious issues with misreporting of specific sensors at times. The rest of his advice is pretty spot on though, particularly using Task manager to determine exactly what is using the available resources.

If you've installed ANY of the commonly problematic motherboard utilities/software available on the motherboard manufacturer websites, like Command center or MSI gaming app, after doing a clean install of Windows, and have the same problems, there's a good chance one of those or something similar could be to blame.

MORE importantly, idle temperatures are basically irrelevant in most cases ALTHOUGH, yours is unusually high. My guess is you have a stock CPU cooler that is either not installed properly, has come loose in some way including potentially one of the two plastic brackets that pinches the motherboard in between themselves and the backplate, not to mention a case with extremely limited airflow. The first thing I'd recommend you do is take off the side panel and see if your temperatures drop and if there is any change in performance after doing so. I'm betting there will be.

Take a look in the BIOS and tell us what the ACTUAL installed BIOS version currently is. Often people think they have the latest version, and don't. In some cases, they aren't even close. Furthermore, if you've updated the BIOS at some point it's very possible that you've lost many or all of your custom settings. Your memory might no longer actually be running at it's XMP/AMP/A-XMP profile configuration. Seems every time I update a BIOS, and it's been this way forever, even recently (Despite many motherboard manufacturers claiming "this setting will survive BIOS updating", which it doesn't) I have to reconfigure CPU cooler and case fan curves, XMP profiles and other critical BIOS settings. I'd double check this and also use HWinfo or CPU-Z to see what the memory is actually running at. Simply dropping off from a fast XMP profile speed down to the default 2133mhz can have a drastic effect on system performance.

Additionally, if you have PBO enabled in the BIOS with nothing more than the stock cooler installed, that's often been a prescription for trouble as well. It would be a really good idea to get a better cooler no matter what else you do or what the problem turns out to be. And we can offer you specific recommendations on what models out there are actually "better", because there are a bucket load of them that are not.

First though, take off the side panel and run it that way to see if it makes any difference in temps and performance. First.
 
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