Pentium® D vs Pentium® 4 w/ HT- which is better for me

[tupu23]

Here is some proof to my apparent bold claim.

http://store.adobe.com/products/dvcoll/systemreqs.html;storesessionid=L50UNOWEXS4MVQFI0IKRCZGAVDJBIIV1

And as far as the HDTV Wonder, research it yourself and you will find that everyone using an AMD had terrible problems installing it. Anything that that includes a reformat of my hard drive during installation isn’t compensated by the gain that an AMD offers.
Sure I only have 1 post. I didn't realize that some people had no life and could afford to spend enough time writing 40000 posts.

Tough crowd!

 

[Crashman]

AMD also had a 40MHz 386 and a 133MHz 486.

 

[fishmahn]

Tupu23, I looked at your link to Adobe's video collection, and I see nothing that says an AMD is incompatible. Am I missing something? As for ME doing research to prove YOUR point? Hahahahahahaha!

Mike.

 

[fishmahn]

Got a 386/40 in my Novell server in the basement, and I had (might still have it) one of the AMD 486/80's. Skipped the 100+mhz 486s to get a P120 (that I promptly OC'd to 166...).

Mike.

 

[Crashman]

Hey, I read that page, you're using someone else's laziness to prove your falicies! Great job! But I have bad news, we have very many Adobe users here, spanning the entire array of Adobe programs, most using AMD processors. You should do Adobe a favor and inform them of their oversight.

I've heard of ATI's TV-Wonder problems with non-Intel i8xx chipsets. You should be warning people with P4's to stay away from nVidia's nForce4 SLI Intel Edition chipsets, as well as Serverworks.

 

[margag_]

Well ok you have an emotive approch to posting...

Millions of people can be 'diffrent' but i d'ont think 'idiot' is the appropriate term for intel owners.

i'll keep on cooking then. :roll:

 

[margag_]

Interesting points

Does somebody knows why are so many people going with intel then?
:twisted: is intel an evil empire :twisted:

note :i am not an anti amd nor a intel only kind of guy i had a amd486dx4
was an excellent computer for the time...

 

[fishmahn]

Does somebody knows why are so many people going with intel then?

Multitude of reasons, including: Good marketing dept. at Intel. Poor marketing dept. at AMD. 'Intel Inside' campaign. K6-2 not running as fast as equal clock PII. Bad chipsets for early Athlons. "XP2200 doesn't run at 2.2ghz? I'm buying a real CPU that runs at 2.2ghz thankyouverymuch..." etc.

:twisted: is intel an evil empire :twisted:

Some people think so... :twisted:

Mike.

 

[Crashman]

Marketing and past problems. Intel had thermal protection before AMD, some builders wouldn't use AMD because of that. I actually had the honor of servicing a system where the cooler came loose and the CPU blew chunks. The sad part is, I only got to see it once.

The K6-2 had a horrible FPU and was terrible in some games in spite of AMD's 3D-Now initiative. Its introduction was followed by two years of VIA chipset dominance where VIA was the source of many AMD system problems.

Probably AMD's biggest problem the entire time was VIA.

 

[margag_]

Thank you for shedding some light on the subject.

I will consider AMD seriously now when my p4 530 will be out of the game...

for now it warms up the house...

It is cold here in Canada, very cold......

 

[Crashman]

That's what I use my 530 for, it sits in a test system keeping me warm while I do my work on something else.

 

[Era]

I just had this idea. An Intel-Prescott stove!
Intel Inside and all. You can't overcook your eggs and bacon anymore because it shuts itself down when it's overheating!
This could be a great business opportunity, I say.

 

[pat]

Tupu23, I looked at your link to Adobe's video collection, and I see nothing that says an AMD is incompatible. Am I missing something? As for ME doing research to prove YOUR point? Hahahahahahaha!

Mike.

He's right.. AMD cpu were incompatible with some Adobe product. I ran into problem trying to install I don't remember which Adobe program on an old Athlon T-Bird 900 chip. Those CPU were missing SSE instruction set ...

From AthlonXP and up, They now have all the SSE instruction set to run Adobe product.

Did I mention that it was back in 2000 ..or 2001 .. I did have that problem...

 

[pat]

Thank you for shedding some light on the subject.

I will consider AMD seriously now when my p4 530 will be out of the game...

for now it warms up the house...

It is cold here in Canada, very cold......

Yep.. same boat budd..

I even tried to OC my AMD 3000+ in order to get more heat, but that never brought me even near to what a Prescott can do..

 

[margag_]

Ok...
Watch out everybody...
Quebecers have the strenght of two now .... :twisted:


well is 50deg c full load that hot ?

My 530 is oc 3.3 and never get hotter than that
i use stock intel fan and 1 3inch case fan.

 

[pat]

I don't know.. My Winchester could not go further that 40 some degrees OCed at 2.35 ...

To be honest, I think I have yet to see it even go at 40.. Well, I just sold that cpu to a friend so I doubt I will ever see it now ..

 

[apache_lives]

And as far as the HDTV Wonder, research it yourself and you will find that everyone using an AMD had terrible problems installing it. Anything that that includes a reformat of my hard drive during installation isn’t compensated by the gain that an AMD offers.
Sure I only have 1 post. I didn't realize that some people had no life and could afford to spend enough time writing 40000 posts.

Its because of idiots like you AMD gets a bad name, if you dont like AMD go back to the cave you came from and stick to your prescott fire, you dont even know what your talking about, and as for that list of system requirements, they prolly do that cause AMD numbering schemes used to match Intels so instead of writing a whole lot more they write P3 800 and P4 3.06 so its equal to AMD@800 or 3000.

(BTW my main system is a P4c (quicker cause of no A64s at the time) so i dont say that cause im a fanboy, i do own many AMD systems and they have proven to be both quicker and cheaper but not incompatible)

Anything that that includes a reformat of my hard drive during installation isn’t compensated by the gain that an AMD offers.

Sounds like your system is damaged (or you didnt build it correctly) either way you didnt diagnose the issue correctly, have you ever thought about asking on the forums about how to go about finding the issue? That problem could be anything "in an AMD system", but not the AMD's fault, sounds like faulty HDD, bad ram, Damaged board, Crap PSU or poorly cooled CPU.

Even the old K6-3 400mhz i own works 100% and iv seen it in Windows XP (slow but works), its my classic games pc - cosmo, jill of the jungle, megarace2 anyone? good fun.

I know AMD has had its own issues in the past like crap chipsets, no thermal control, and so on, but has there ever been an issue with the actual processing power and performance - NO! ITS BEEN CONSISTANTLY BETTER THEN INTEL. When the northwoods came out i remember the older wilamette celeron 1800 was $4 more then an Athlon XP 1800+ here - i know what i would prefer to spend my hard earnd cash on.

Sure I only have 1 post. I didn't realize that some people had no life and could afford to spend enough time writing 40000 posts.

People have alot of posts cause they have alot of good advise and interesting input, not crap. Geez thats your secont post here and you didnt even prove anything, nor give advice or help, unless it was to prove your an Intel Idiot Fanboy.

THEY HAVE YOU, THEY OWN YOU.

 

[Crashman]

Calm down Apache, let's keep it peaceful before the flames begin.