Performance difference between Skylake, Coffee Lake and Ryzen

[Costello_]

Hi all.

I currently have a i6500 and I was hoping some of you could tell me is it worth upgrading my cpu to either of these latest models? I’m of course will be gaming but I will be getting into photography soon and would like to be able to run programs and such as fast as possible and also will need a good cpu for Processing the photos and other tasks at the same time. Is my i6500 still worth having? I’m also upgrading my HDDs to SSD so that should help as well. If you would recommend me upgrading my cpu should I pick? Looking forward to hearing your thoughts on this.

Many thanks

 

[feelinfroggy777]

You still have a really good CPU. Most games like good single threaded performance, which the 6500 still has. The single threaded performance from the 6500 and Kaby lake and Coffee lake are near identical. They are the same architecture.

Where coffee lake move ahead of the pack is multi threaded applications. Where it has more cores and threads that it can throw at a task. But most games, dont take advantage of the extra cores. Some games will see a bump, but most wont. Quad core CPUs have been mainstream for a decade and games are only now beginning to take advantage of them. 6 core and higher CPUs have only been mainstream for a year and it takes years to make AAA games. So it will be some time until games start to see good scaling for more cores.

If it were me, I would wait till the next generation comes out.

 

[Costello_]

You still have a really good CPU. Most games like good single threaded performance, which the 6500 still has. The single threaded performance from the 6500 and Kaby lake and Coffee lake are near identical. They are the same architecture.

Where coffee lake move ahead of the pack is multi threaded applications. Where it has more cores and threads that it can throw at a task. But most games, dont take advantage of the extra cores. Some games will see a bump, but most wont. Quad core CPUs have been mainstream for a decade and games are only now beginning to take advantage of them. 6 core and higher CPUs have only been mainstream for a year and it takes years to make AAA games. So it will be some time until games start to see good scaling for more cores.

If it were me, I would wait till the next generation comes out.

Thanks froggy for the reply. Let’s say we put gaming to one side for a moment ,would it still not be worth upgrading for post processing photos and using software such as DSS and photoshop will my original cpu still be capable? I also have 16gb ddr 4 installed if that helps.

Many thanks for the help

 

[nobspls]

Tom's just did a great article on this with all the detailed benchies see:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/game-performance-bottleneck-cpu-gpu,5503.html

 

[feelinfroggy777]

You still have a really good CPU. Most games like good single threaded performance, which the 6500 still has. The single threaded performance from the 6500 and Kaby lake and Coffee lake are near identical. They are the same architecture.

Where coffee lake move ahead of the pack is multi threaded applications. Where it has more cores and threads that it can throw at a task. But most games, dont take advantage of the extra cores. Some games will see a bump, but most wont. Quad core CPUs have been mainstream for a decade and games are only now beginning to take advantage of them. 6 core and higher CPUs have only been mainstream for a year and it takes years to make AAA games. So it will be some time until games start to see good scaling for more cores.

If it were me, I would wait till the next generation comes out.

Thanks froggy for the reply. Let’s say we put gaming to one side for a moment ,would it still not be worth upgrading for post processing photos and using software such as DSS and photoshop will my original cpu still be capable? I also have 16gb ddr 4 installed if that helps.

Many thanks for the help

I must admit, that I personally dont use my system for photography. For video editing, you will see a nice performance boost with more cores. But I dont think photoshop is the same.

Below is an article from Puget Systems covering coffee lake CPUs for photoshop performance. While the 8700k is the leader, they say that core count does not scale to performance with photoshop. The 8350k was included and it will be fairly close to the same performance as your 6500. It was only 9% behind the 7700k and performed better than Ryzen 1700x and 1800x.

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Photoshop-CC-2017-1-1-CPU-Performance-Core-i7-8700K-i5-8600K-i3-8350K-1057/#Conclusion

If it were me, I would hold on to what you have.

 

[Costello_]

Tom's just did a great article on this with all the detailed benchies see:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/game-performance-bottleneck-cpu-gpu,5503.html

Thanks was a good article

 

[Costello_]

You still have a really good CPU. Most games like good single threaded performance, which the 6500 still has. The single threaded performance from the 6500 and Kaby lake and Coffee lake are near identical. They are the same architecture.

Where coffee lake move ahead of the pack is multi threaded applications. Where it has more cores and threads that it can throw at a task. But most games, dont take advantage of the extra cores. Some games will see a bump, but most wont. Quad core CPUs have been mainstream for a decade and games are only now beginning to take advantage of them. 6 core and higher CPUs have only been mainstream for a year and it takes years to make AAA games. So it will be some time until games start to see good scaling for more cores.

If it were me, I would wait till the next generation comes out.

Thanks froggy for the reply. Let’s say we put gaming to one side for a moment ,would it still not be worth upgrading for post processing photos and using software such as DSS and photoshop will my original cpu still be capable? I also have 16gb ddr 4 installed if that helps.

Many thanks for the help

I must admit, that I personally dont use my system for photography. For video editing, you will see a nice performance boost with more cores. But I dont think photoshop is the same.

Below is an article from Puget Systems covering coffee lake CPUs for photoshop performance. While the 8700k is the leader, they say that core count does not scale to performance with photoshop. The 8350k was included and it will be fairly close to the same performance as your 6500. It was only 9% behind the 7700k and performed better than Ryzen 1700x and 1800x.

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Photoshop-CC-2017-1-1-CPU-Performance-Core-i7-8700K-i5-8600K-i3-8350K-1057/#Conclusion

If it were me, I would hold on to what you have.

Thank you for the help appreciate it. I guess I’ll hold on. bit of a nice feeling my cpu is capable enough and can save that money to upgrade the other parts of my pc.