Question Performance issue on laptop ?

[Vaidik]

My laptop has an Nvidia GeForce GTX 1660 TI 6GB GPU.

Earlier when I used to play games, I was getting around 100+ FPS but recently when I tried to play the same game it is very choppy and FPS drops to 25 30 or even lower. I tried running Furmark benchmark and in that I got a score of around 1000 and 17 FPS only. The GPU temperature stays around 92 to 97C while playing game and in benchmark test.

Any idea what could be the reason behind this?

 

[John Chesterfield]

You need to give us far more info, such as case, CPU, CPU cooler, how many fans you have, ambient temperature, CPU temperatures, a whole lot more than you've provided basically.

Otherwise, nobody can even start to try and help you.

 

[Eximo]

You need to give us far more info, such as case, CPU, CPU cooler, how many fans you have, ambient temperature, CPU temperatures, a whole lot more than you've provided basically.

Otherwise, nobody can even start to try and help you.

"My laptop has an Nvidia GeForce GTX 1660 TI 6GB GPU"

 

[Eximo]

High temperatures are kind of a known quantity of laptops. What we need is the clock speed at said temperature.

Still, it is likely that the thermal paste for the CPU/GPU needs to be redone. That is where I would start if it isn't a broken fan or a clogged up heatsink. All of those things can be taken care of at the same time anyway.

 

[John Chesterfield]

"My laptop has an Nvidia GeForce GTX 1660 TI 6GB GPU"

Well spotted, I missed that. Maybe this ear infection is affecting my reading!

OP, as stated above, clean out the heatsinks inside the laptop. If that doesn't help, then looking like a repaste is needed.

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

Noctua NT H2 is a good paste for laptops with bare dies. Re-paste CPU while your at it, as they heat pipes will be covering both, so you will have to do the CPU at the same time.

 

[logainofhades]

What driver are you running right now?

 

[Vaidik]

You need to give us far more info, such as case, CPU, CPU cooler, how many fans you have, ambient temperature, CPU temperatures, a whole lot more than you've provided basically.

Otherwise, nobody can even start to try and help you.

It's a laptop with an Intel Core i5-9300H CPU and 16GB of DDR4 RAM. It has two fans that run at around 5000 RPM. The GPU temperature at idle stays around 45–50°C, while the CPU temperature stays around 60–70°C. During gaming, both the GPU and CPU temperatures reach between 92–97°C. During gaming, the GPU usage is around 99%, VRAM usage is around 1400 MB, and CPU usage is around 50%.

Let me know if you need any other info.

 

[Eximo]

Those are quite high idle temps on the CPU, so either the system has heavy background use while 'idle' or the fan profile is quite forgiving. Or a sign the thermal paste has come loose from the CPU.

You missed out on the clock speeds. To know if the system is throttling or not the percent usage doesn't help much.

 

[Vaidik]

Those are quite high idle temps on the CPU, so either the system has heavy background use while 'idle' or the fan profile is quite forgiving. Or a sign the thermal paste has come loose from the CPU.

You missed out on the clock speeds. To know if the system is throttling or not the percent usage doesn't help much.

I checked the clock speed while gaming, for GPU it fluctuates between 350MHz to 450MHz, sometimes reaches 900MHz or sometimes reaches 1100MHz. Talking about CPU, it fluctuates around 2700MHz to 3700MHz. None of them is constant.

 

[Eximo]

I wouldn't expect consistency, but that does tell us there are issues.

350-450 is very low. The base clock is 1140 Mhz, with a max boost of 1300-1500 depending on which model and power budget they put in there. So I am not surprised you are seeing poor performance while the GPU says 100% usage.

Still points to an issue with the cooling. You are going to have to take it apart and reassemble it with new thermal compound, minimum.

If that doesn't solve it, then something more drastic is wrong, and you might have to start shopping for a new laptop.

 

[Vaidik]

I wouldn't expect consistency, but that does tell us there are issues.

350-450 is very low. The base clock is 1140 Mhz, with a max boost of 1300-1500 depending on which model and power budget they put in there. So I am not surprised you are seeing poor performance while the GPU says 100% usage.

Still points to an issue with the cooling. You are going to have to take it apart and reassemble it with new thermal compound, minimum.

If that doesn't solve it, then something more drastic is wrong, and you might have to start shopping for a new laptop.

Okay maybe I can try applying thermal again, although I recently cleaned laptop internally. FYI my laptop model is MSI GF65 thin 9SD. Also 1 thing I noticed is when I minimize the game for few seconds and after reopening game, it gives me some decent to good FPS for few seconds.

 

[Vaidik]

What driver are you running right now?

576.02

 

[logainofhades]

576.02

That driver has known issues. I would run DDU, and go back to 566.36.

Driver Details | NVIDIA

Download the <dd~LanguageName> <dd~Name> for <dd~OSName> systems. Released <dd~ReleaseDateTime>

www.nvidia.com

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrCEPX47vtw&t=492s



There is another driver that supposedly fixes the bugs of 576.02, but with Nvdia's recent track record, I am not so sure that it is much better, with regards to stability.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9ztK2pFe64

 

[Vaidik]

That driver has known issues. I would run DDU, and go back to 566.36.

Driver Details | NVIDIA

Download the <dd~LanguageName> <dd~Name> for <dd~OSName> systems. Released <dd~ReleaseDateTime>

www.nvidia.com

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrCEPX47vtw&t=492s



There is another driver that supposedly fixes the bugs of 576.02, but with Nvdia's recent track record, I am not so sure that it is much better, with regards to stability.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9ztK2pFe64

Alright, I'll try going back to version 566.36.

 

[John Chesterfield]

Alright, I'll try going back to version 566.36.

And I'd also ensure BIOS and chipset drivers are up to date. Seen that with a lot of Intel business laptops, boost and base go screwy without a chipset driver update. And seen many a HP business laptop not boost correctly with an older BIOS.

These might be business devices that I support but the same principles will apply to gaming laptops so definitely worth trying. Try drivers before BIOS as updating BIOS can be a bit nerve wracking, although with a battery on board far less chance of losing power. Just ensure your battery is fully charged before attempting to update BIOS. Laptops tend to need chipset updates fairly often and BIOS updates now and then to keep up with the 'optimised code' of bloat like Windows.

Worth looking at both of those aspects.

 

[Vaidik]

That driver has known issues. I would run DDU, and go back to 566.36.

Driver Details | NVIDIA

Download the <dd~LanguageName> <dd~Name> for <dd~OSName> systems. Released <dd~ReleaseDateTime>

www.nvidia.com

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrCEPX47vtw&t=492s



There is another driver that supposedly fixes the bugs of 576.02, but with Nvdia's recent track record, I am not so sure that it is much better, with regards to stability.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9ztK2pFe64

tried version 566.36 but it didn't work, still getting around 300MHz clock and temperature around 91 to 97 C.

 

[Vaidik]

And I'd also ensure BIOS and chipset drivers are up to date. Seen that with a lot of Intel business laptops, boost and base go screwy without a chipset driver update. And seen many a HP business laptop not boost correctly with an older BIOS.

These might be business devices that I support but the same principles will apply to gaming laptops so definitely worth trying. Try drivers before BIOS as updating BIOS can be a bit nerve wracking, although with a battery on board far less chance of losing power. Just ensure your battery is fully charged before attempting to update BIOS. Laptops tend to need chipset updates fairly often and BIOS updates now and then to keep up with the 'optimised code' of bloat like Windows.

Worth looking at both of those aspects.

I tried this as well, but it didn't work. Is it possible that a mistake occurred while attaching the cables or something similar? I recently gave my laptop to a local vendor for servicing.

 

[LordVile]

My laptop has an Nvidia GeForce GTX 1660 TI 6GB GPU.

Earlier when I used to play games, I was getting around 100+ FPS but recently when I tried to play the same game it is very choppy and FPS drops to 25 30 or even lower. I tried running Furmark benchmark and in that I got a score of around 1000 and 17 FPS only. The GPU temperature stays around 92 to 97C while playing game and in benchmark test.

Any idea what could be the reason behind this?

Battery health?