Please help me choose a 4k Monitor for gaming.

[Ali977]

At the moment I have 2 in mind

1- http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00PC9HFO8/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=AT3RUQ9VUCHH1


2- http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00O0Z5682/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A34IS8XZVUMN62

could use more suggestions

 

[Ali977]

If I were in your positions, I might just save some money and wait for the Asus ROG 4k Swift. It's a UHD Gsync with an IPS panel. There's no technical tradeoff there. The only downside would be the higher price, but the new 4K Swift won't come out for a couple months, so that's where the saving comes in.

But if I needed something now, then I'd calculate how much time I spend doing various things. Like if I had another computer with an IPS monitor for photo editing (assuming you do that), then I'd definitely get the Acer - no question. But if I just did a few hours of gaming here and there, but mostly used my computer for other things, then the Dell would win out.

Have you played with demanding games and compared the difference between Vsync on and Vsync off?

On a 60 Hz monitor, dropping below 60 fps with Vsync on makes the game s-s-stutter; above 60 is smooth. But if you turn Vsync off, then you get really ugly tears. Gsync eliminates that tradeoff entirely, so you have smooth, tear-free games even below 60 fps. Great technology. It's even better, however, on an IPS panel 🙂

Here's a link to it as displayed at the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas this past January: http://rog.asus.com/393642015/gaming-monitors/ces-2015-rog-swift-pg27aq-27-inch-4k-lcd-with-gsync/

Linus from Linus Tech Tips also did a quick video on it while he was there: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QiQ6y1jJ5A

the new RoG swift is not IPS. ASUS launched 2 different monitors. a 1440p IPS 144Hz display AND the new RoG swift.

and the 4k rog oen is TN?

 

[davidarad02]

If I were in your positions, I might just save some money and wait for the Asus ROG 4k Swift. It's a UHD Gsync with an IPS panel. There's no technical tradeoff there. The only downside would be the higher price, but the new 4K Swift won't come out for a couple months, so that's where the saving comes in.

But if I needed something now, then I'd calculate how much time I spend doing various things. Like if I had another computer with an IPS monitor for photo editing (assuming you do that), then I'd definitely get the Acer - no question. But if I just did a few hours of gaming here and there, but mostly used my computer for other things, then the Dell would win out.

Have you played with demanding games and compared the difference between Vsync on and Vsync off?

On a 60 Hz monitor, dropping below 60 fps with Vsync on makes the game s-s-stutter; above 60 is smooth. But if you turn Vsync off, then you get really ugly tears. Gsync eliminates that tradeoff entirely, so you have smooth, tear-free games even below 60 fps. Great technology. It's even better, however, on an IPS panel 🙂

Here's a link to it as displayed at the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas this past January: http://rog.asus.com/393642015/gaming-monitors/ces-2015-rog-swift-pg27aq-27-inch-4k-lcd-with-gsync/

Linus from Linus Tech Tips also did a quick video on it while he was there: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QiQ6y1jJ5A

the new RoG swift is not IPS. ASUS launched 2 different monitors. a 1440p IPS 144Hz display AND the new RoG swift.

and the 4k rog oen is TN?

yes, thats the only way that G-Sync is possible (i think that IPS and G-Sync aren't compatible and thats why theres no IPS G-Sync monitor).

 

[Ali977]

If I were in your positions, I might just save some money and wait for the Asus ROG 4k Swift. It's a UHD Gsync with an IPS panel. There's no technical tradeoff there. The only downside would be the higher price, but the new 4K Swift won't come out for a couple months, so that's where the saving comes in.

But if I needed something now, then I'd calculate how much time I spend doing various things. Like if I had another computer with an IPS monitor for photo editing (assuming you do that), then I'd definitely get the Acer - no question. But if I just did a few hours of gaming here and there, but mostly used my computer for other things, then the Dell would win out.

Have you played with demanding games and compared the difference between Vsync on and Vsync off?

On a 60 Hz monitor, dropping below 60 fps with Vsync on makes the game s-s-stutter; above 60 is smooth. But if you turn Vsync off, then you get really ugly tears. Gsync eliminates that tradeoff entirely, so you have smooth, tear-free games even below 60 fps. Great technology. It's even better, however, on an IPS panel 🙂

Here's a link to it as displayed at the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas this past January: http://rog.asus.com/393642015/gaming-monitors/ces-2015-rog-swift-pg27aq-27-inch-4k-lcd-with-gsync/

Linus from Linus Tech Tips also did a quick video on it while he was there: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QiQ6y1jJ5A

the new RoG swift is not IPS. ASUS launched 2 different monitors. a 1440p IPS 144Hz display AND the new RoG swift.

and the 4k rog oen is TN?

yes, thats the only way that G-Sync is possible (i think that IPS and G-Sync aren't compatible and thats why theres no IPS G-Sync monitor).

is TN far worse anyway?

 

[davidarad02]

I mentioned the pros and cons of TN before, but i will say them again:
pros:
1. faster and dynamic refresh rates (G-Sync)
2. cheap compared to IPS
cons:
1. colour reproduction isn't that good compared to IPS
2. viewing angles are not great (altho gamers dont care because they sit in one place and dont move, so viewing angles are not such a big deal)

 

[Ali977]

I mentioned the pros and cons of TN before, but i will say them again:
pros:
1. faster and dynamic refresh rates (G-Sync)
2. cheap compared to IPS
cons:
1. colour reproduction isn't that good compared to IPS
2. viewing angles are not great (altho gamers dont care because they sit in one place and dont move, so viewing angles are not such a big deal)

i read them aha, but i wanted an example, ill just google haha

 

[Eggz]

yes, thats the only way that G-Sync is possible (i think that IPS and G-Sync aren't compatible and thats why theres no IPS G-Sync monitor).

Dude, seriously? You need to read up on things before you start telling people information. All you had to do was watch the video or click the link I put, which was from the Asus website.

Do note that [the new 4K ROG G-Sync monitor will not be] a replacement for the current model and both PGs will exist side-by-side as top-tier gaming monitors, providing a choice to gamers looking at 27-inch displays; between the fast gaming 144Hz, WQHD/8-bit TN PG278Q and the higher 4K resolution, with in-plane switching (IPS spec) LCD in the PG28AQ .

You can also just Google it. Every major tech new source has covered the Asus PG28AQ, and they all list the IPS spec with Gsync.

I usually think it's in bad taste to call people out like this, but you also said the Dell he was looking at was 30 hz despite the fact that Dell's official specs clearly list it as 60 hz - a deal breaking issue. When people are trying to rely on your advice, accuracy matters.

i read them aha, but i wanted an example, ill just google haha

The best place to look for technical information about displays is a website called TFT Central

It's a bit heavy because they don't simplify anything, but once you get used to the lingo, you'll be fine.

 

[Ali977]

yes, thats the only way that G-Sync is possible (i think that IPS and G-Sync aren't compatible and thats why theres no IPS G-Sync monitor).

Dude, seriously? You need to read up on things before you start telling people information. All you had to do was watch the video or click the link I put, which was from the Asus website.

Do note that [the new 4K ROG G-Sync monitor will not be] a replacement for the current model and both PGs will exist side-by-side as top-tier gaming monitors, providing a choice to gamers looking at 27-inch displays; between the fast gaming 144Hz, WQHD/8-bit TN PG278Q and the higher 4K resolution, with in-plane switching (IPS spec) LCD in the PG28AQ .

You can also just Google it. Every major tech new source has covered the Asus PG28AQ, and they all list the IPS spec with Gsync.

I usually think it's in bad taste to call people out like this, but you also said the Dell he was looking at was 30 hz despite the fact that Dell's official specs clearly list it as 60 hz - a deal breaking issue. When people are trying to rely on your advice, accuracy matters.

i read them aha, but i wanted an example, ill just google haha

The best place to look for technical information about displays is a website called TFT Central

It's a bit heavy because they don't simplify anything, but once you get used to the lingo, you'll be fine.

if the new asus is ips, illw ait for it for sure