Question Please rate and review my build. Please leave suggestions.

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I'm not expert on computers and stuff and also I'm in a not very good country when it comes to technology. And i am on strict budget of 1000-1500usd.

This is the build i'm thinking
CPU
- INTEL I3-8100
MOTHERBOARD
- MSI Z390-A PRO
RAM
-GeIL Forza 2x8gb ram
STORAGE
  • Intel 760p 256gb ssd
  • Seagate FireCuda 2tb sshd
GRAPHIC CARD
- EVGA gtx1050ti

What do you think guys? Thank you.

Also can you reccomend your own custom build for a budget of 1000$-1500$
 
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You can build as is.
One rule of thumb for a balanced gamer is to budget 2x the cost of your processor for the graphics card.
You are spot on there.

I have some thoughts:

1. I like the choice of a Z390 based motherboard.
It gives you the option of using a K suffix processor upgrade and overclocking it.

2. 240gb is OK for a windows C drive. You can hold a handful of games on it. But, considering that SSD prices are down, I would opt for at least a 500gb SSD.
Samsung EVO is my suggestion for performance and reliability.
A m.2 format device(about the size and shape of a stick of gum) will plug into the motherboard and avoid the need for sata and psu connections.
There are pcie versions that have higher sequential speeds, and higher costs.
But the big benefit of a ssd is random I/O which is what Windows does 90% of the time.
On a budget, pcie is not so much worth it.

3. Since a 9400F can not be overclocked, the stock intel cooler will do the job.
If you want a better cooler, do not buy the hyper212.
It is difficult to install and it will not fit in the 155mm you have available for a cooler.
A better unit would be a cryorig H7

4. I like your case for a budget build.
It comes with a 120mm exhaust fan pre-installed.
I would add two front 120mm intake fans, about $ 7 each. Nothing special needed.
Any cooler needs a good source of fresh air to do it's job.

5. Your GTX1660ti should run on a good 450w psu, I agree with a stronger unit up front to allow for a future graphics card upgrade.
550W should run a card as good as a RTX2080.
650w will run even a GTX2080ti.
A psu will consume only the wattage demanded of it, regardless of the max capability.
As others have mentioned, Quality is a different issue.
Corsair CXM newer units are OK.
For a similar price, you can buy a superior 550w Seasonic focus gold with 7 year warranty.
https://www.newegg.com/seasonic-focus-550-gold-ssr-550fm-550w/p/N82E16817151203
the 650w version is about $15 more.

Some advice for a first time builder:
MY build process:

Before anything, while waiting for your parts to be delivered, download
and read, cover to cover your case and motherboard manual.
Buy a #2 magnetic tip philips screwdriver.
I find it handy to buy a power switch like this for testing.
https://www.ebay.com/p/4in1-PC-Powe...or-Computer/631889283?iid=142232821294&chn=ps

1. I assemble the critical parts outside of the case.
That lets me test them for functionality easily.
A wood table or cardboard is fine.
2. Plug in only the necessary parts at first. Ram, cpu, cooler, psu.
Do not force anything. Parts fit only one way.
Attach a monitor to the integrated motherboard adapter if you have one, otherwise to the graphics card.
  1. If your motherboard does not have a PWR button, momentarily touch the two pwr front panel pins with a flat blade screwdriver.
  2. Repeatedly hit F2 or DEL, and that should get you into the bios display.
  3. Boot from a cd or usb stick with memtest86 on it. memtest will exercise your ram and cpu functionality.
  4. Install windows.
  5. Install the motherboard cd drivers. Particularly the lan drivers so you can access the internet.
Do not select the easy install option, or you will get a bunch of utilities and trialware that you don't want. Drivers only.
  1. Connect to the internet and install an antivirus program. Microsoft security essentials is free, easy, and unobtrusive.
  2. Install your graphics card and driver if you tested with integrated graphics.
You will need to remove the graphics card later to install your motherboard in the case.
As a tip when screwing the motherboard into the posts, give the screw a small counterclockwise turn until you feel a click.
That lets you know that the screw will engage properly.
Make a note of how the graphics card latches into the pcie slot.
The mechanism will be hidden under the card and may be difficult to work if you have not previously checked how.
  1. Update windows to currency.
  2. Only now do I take apart what I need to and install it in the case.
  3. Now is the time to reinstall your graphics card.

And, for installing a stock intel cooler:

----------------how to mount the stock Intel cooler--------------

The stock Intel cooler can be tricky to install.
A poor installation will result in higher cpu temperatures.
If properly mounted, you should expect temperatures at idle to be 10-15c. over ambient.

To mount the Intel stock cooler properly, place the motherboard on top of the foam or cardboard backing that was packed with the motherboard.
The stock cooler will come with paste pre applied, it looks like three grey strips.
The 4 push pins should come in the proper position for installation, that is with the pins rotated in the opposite direction of the arrow,(clockwise)
and pulled up as far as they can go.
Take the time to play with the pushpin mechanism until you know how they work.

Orient the 4 pins so that they are exactly over the motherboard holes.
If one is out of place, you will damage the pins which are delicate.
Push down on a DIAGONAL pair of pins at the same time. Then the other pair.

When you push down on the top black pins, it expands the white plastic pins to fix the cooler in place.

If you do them one at a time, you will not get the cooler on straight.
Lastly, look at the back of the motherboard to verify that all 4 pins are equally through the motherboard, and that the cooler is on firmly.
This last step must be done, which is why the motherboard should be out of the case to do the job. Or you need a case with a opening that lets you see the pins.
It is possible to mount the cooler with the motherboard mounted in the case, but you can then never be certain that the push pins are inserted properly
unless you can verify that the pins are through the motherboard and locked.

If you should need to remove the cooler, turn the pins counter clockwise to unlock them.
You will need to clean off the old paste and reapply new if you ever take the cooler off.
Clean off old paste with alcohol and a lint free paper like a coffee filter.
Apply new paste sparingly. A small rice sized drop in the center will spread our under heat and pressure.
Too much paste is bad, it will act as an insulator.
It is hard to use too little.

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Again 6 cores will run more smoothly than 4 i had an i5 7400 before which is kinda like the 9400 just 2 years older and different speeds and i had trouble even using discord at the same time as destiny 2. Now i have an 8 core ryzen 7 and i can have 3 games open and discord with no problem. More cores is better than like a 2 percent increase in perfor.ance

The 9400F is a six core CPU, not a 4 core. It competes on the same level as the Ryzen 2600.
 
As the title suggests.
This is my 1st time building, and I am in a dilemma right now. I don't know if I should wait for the Ryzen zen2 or just buy a Ryzen zen+ right now.
i was originally planing to buy 2700x. I'm planning to use this pc for at least 2 or 3 years before i upgrade (don't know if that's a good idea), But it will be better if i can use it for longer years.
I'm only 18 and i'm just a student. I just got lucky and earned $1000usd with my uncle while i was on vacation from school. So there's no way I could earn more money for atleast a year or more.
basically i have a PS4 , so the only games i would focus to play with the pc are esports games like; dota 2, csgo, pubg, etc... and some aaa games that would be better to play in a pc.
So my real questions are;

1. With a Budget of $1100, can i build a good at least 1080p pc that can be used as a gaming system and production/content creation system*.
*i'm planning to start studying video editing.
*i'm an average photo editor but i want to improve
*i'm also gonna use the computer for music production

2. With my question number 1 in mind, can i build with a zen 2 processor with my $1100 or is it better to build with the ryzen 2700x with that small budget?
*i mean, i can get ryzen 2700x for around $270 right now, and the 3700x will be at least $320.
*is it worth it to get the 3700x than the 2700x with my budget tho?

3. Can you Suggest a suffecient/good enough build for me?

Thanks. Please Bare with my long post.
 
It wont hurt to wait a few more days and see what the new Ryzen brings to the table. Something like this...

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core Processor | $279.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard | ASRock - B450 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard | $64.99 @ Newegg
Memory | Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory | $59.99 @ Newegg
Storage | HP - EX900 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive | $63.89 @ OutletPC
Storage | Hitachi - Ultrastar 7K3000 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $46.35 @ Amazon
Video Card | Asus - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB STRIX GAMING Video Card | $459.99 @ Newegg
Case | Cooler Master - MasterBox MB511 ATX Mid Tower Case | $48.98 @ Newegg Business
Power Supply | Corsair - TXM Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply | $74.99 @ Newegg
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $1164.07
| Mail-in rebates | -$65.00
| Total | $1099.07
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-23 10:59 EDT-0400 |
 
Slightly faster but smaller SSD than above. This build also has a weaker CPU, although with an overclock on the included cooler they are close in performance.
This has a good bit better RTX 2080 as its main advantage. Everything else is comparable.
PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3 GHz 8-Core Processor | $159.99 @ Newegg Business
Motherboard | ASRock - B450 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard | $64.99 @ Newegg
Memory | Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory | $59.99 @ Newegg
Storage | Samsung - PM961 256 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive | $33.99 @ Amazon
Storage | Seagate - Constellation ES 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $45.99 @ Amazon
Video Card | Zotac - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB Video Card | $669.99 @ Newegg
Case | Deepcool - MATREXX 55 ATX Mid Tower Case | $36.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply | EVGA - 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply | $59.99 @ Newegg
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $1166.91
| Mail-in rebates | -$35.00
| Total | $1131.91
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-23 14:51 EDT-0400 |
 
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Slightly faster but smaller SSD than above. This build also has a weaker CPU, although with an overclock on the included cooler they are close in performance.
This has a good bit better RTX 2080 as its main advantage. Everything else is comparable.
PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3 GHz 8-Core Processor | $159.99 @ Newegg Business
Motherboard | ASRock - B450 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard | $64.99 @ Newegg
Memory | Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory | $59.99 @ Newegg
Storage | Samsung - PM961 256 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive | $33.99 @ Amazon
Storage | Seagate - Constellation ES 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $45.99 @ Amazon
Video Card | Zotac - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB Video Card | $669.99 @ Newegg
Case | Deepcool - MATREXX 55 ATX Mid Tower Case | $36.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply | EVGA - 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply | $59.99 @ Newegg
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $1166.91
| Mail-in rebates | -$35.00
| Total | $1131.91
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-23 14:51 EDT-0400 |
Good PSU. But the GPU is too powerful for that 1700. Its on par with the 1080ti. The kind of OC it needs to get to 1700x requires a premium cooler.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Yx0jK3bVGxnoXOhJtGWUNHdh0cOQXqF0wHUL8-H3qMo/edit#gid=0
 
You usually can get 3.8-3.9ghz on the stock wraith spire led.
Even at stock, I would expect the framerate with 1700+2080 to be higher than a 2700x+2070 on a 1440p or 4k monitor.

Anyhow, video editing is a bit different from gaming.
The CPUs role is not to limit the GPUs full potential, gaming or editing. When it limits, its going to perform as good as the next best card it can support fully. A bit of wasted potential there.
 
1. With a Budget of $1100, can i build a good at least 1080p pc that can be used as a gaming system and production/content creation system*.

What is the max refresh rate on the monitor? Does it have FreeSync, GSync, or neither?

Also, I might have missed it somewhere, but do you have the monitor currently, or is that part of what needs to be purchased?

How about keyboard? Mouse? Operating System license?


It's hard to choose an appropriate video card without knowing monitor details, as well as what other "small bits" need to be purchased. I think most people (myself included) when asked about build recommendations, assume that a previous monitor, keyboard, mouse, and Windows license will be transferred over, and thus don't include those as part of the build suggestions unless otherwise mentioned by the requester.
 
What is the max refresh rate on the monitor? Does it have FreeSync, GSync, or neither?

Also, I might have missed it somewhere, but do you have the monitor currently, or is that part of what needs to be purchased?

How about keyboard? Mouse? Operating System license?


It's hard to choose an appropriate video card without knowing monitor details, as well as what other "small bits" need to be purchased. I think most people (myself included) when asked about build recommendations, assume that a previous monitor, keyboard, mouse, and Windows license will be transferred over, and thus don't include those as part of the build suggestions unless otherwise mentioned by the requester.

I already have peripherals and os.the $1100 is purely for the system unit. I have a 1080p monitor with freesync.
 
If you can wait until 7/7, I would probably do that. If you want to build it now, some of the suggestions that others have made are good starting points depending on what you want to focus on. I really suggest waiting for AMDs new processors if you can wait 10 days.